Best films/performances not to win Oscar...

Zak Flaps · 24-07-2016 11:52AM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

McConaughey was superb in that tbf. And it was an important movie in the whole McConnaisance too.

And how is that relevant ?

Gwynplaine · 24-07-2016 11:57AM

Christian Bale in American Psycho. A brilliant film, and an outstanding performance.

Arcade_Tryer · 24-07-2016 12:00PM

Zak Flaps wrote: »

And how is that relevant ?

Matthew McConnaughey is the name of the actor who won the Oscar. McConnaughey was enjoying a revival in his career and was drawing widespread critical acclaim at the time of his Oscar win. It's relevant because had it just been a performance from out of nowhere he may not have been treated as favourably by the Oscar committee. But because he had built a bit of a serious acting pedigree at that stage with some decent indie movies he was viewed as a worthy winner.

Still, objectively, his performance was fantastic, and he deserved to win as much as anybody.

secondrowgal · 24-07-2016 12:01PM

Jennifer Anniston in Cake - fantastic, realistic performance. Not even nominated, IIRC. I suppose she may have been damned by her pigeon-holed roles prior to this, but she really stood out in this.

Jake Gyllenhall in Nightcrawler - one of the most unlikeable characters ever, even when you understand his motivation and his possible autistic/Asperger's challenges.

enzo roco · 24-07-2016 12:03PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Clint Eastwood should have won best Actor for either Million Dollar Baby or Gran Torino.
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No way. Both of those films are way overrated. And the acting was nothing special.

dark crystal · 24-07-2016 12:27PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I agree that Fiennes should have won but In fairness Tommy Lee Jones was brilliant in that film and deserved a nomination

And it led to one of the all time great Simpsons jokes so I'll always have great time for that film and character.

It's a good film, as action tv remakes go and his performance was fine in it, but Oscar worthy? How??

It was basically the same role he played in Double Jeopardy - nothing special or memorable about it, imo.

phelixoflaherty · 24-07-2016 12:30PM

IvyTheTerrible wrote:

Ennio Morricone only winning an Oscar this year baffles me.

Soundtracks are so good you hardly need to watch he film

Dirty Dingus McGee · 24-07-2016 12:35PM

enzo roco wrote: »

No way. Both of those films are way overrated. And the acting was nothing special.

Disagree.

They are 2 very moving films and Clint's performance in both was outstanding.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 24-07-2016 12:37PM

dark crystal wrote: »

It's a good film, as action tv remakes go and his performance was fine in it, but Oscar worthy? How??

It was basically the same role he played in Double Jeopardy - nothing special or memorable about it, imo.

I said Fiennes should have won but it was still an excellent performance by Jones.

I'm a big fan of his in general so I'm probably biased.

Arghus · 24-07-2016 12:39PM

fryup wrote: »

for me it has to be....

Nick Nolte - Thin Red Line

his performance was amazing I honestly think he gave the best screen performance ever in movie history, its incredible esp the scene where he lambasts Captain Staros over the phone with his face contorted with rage with veins popping out of his forehead you'd swear he was right there in the middle of a battle > completely convincing.

and whats disgraceful is that he wasn't even nominated for an oscar for it:cool:

Yeah Nick Nolte gave a great performance. He might have got a nod for best supporting actor, but he was nominated for best actor that same year for his performance in Affliction so I'd imagine the Academy thought that was recognition enough.

Many, many instances of people and films being overlooked over the years. So much of the business of securing a nomination or even an award is down to campaigning and politics, so it's hardly surprising that great work often goes unrecognised and middle-brow stuff rises to the fore.

osarusan · 24-07-2016 12:46PM

The whole 'foreign language film' rule and their separate category is a joke - in the history of the oscars, there have been only 9 'best film' nominations for foreign language films.

I can't remember who, but some actor or actress said that the oscars should be seen as Hollywood patting itself on the back, rather than a celebration of quality.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 24-07-2016 12:50PM

osarusan wrote: »

The whole 'foreign language film' rule and their separate category is a joke - in the history of the oscars, there have been only 9 'best film' nominations for foreign language films.

I can't remember who, but some actor or actress said that the oscars should be seen as Hollywood patting itself on the back, rather than a celebration of quality.

But that is what it is.

The awards are basically the Mainstream English Language Film awards.

Which is perfectly fine as that's what most people accept them to be.

Although people are discussing it here people really shouldn't take them too seriously as unlike sport where there is a proper system for determining the best team/individual the best film,book,TV show etc is all up for debate and there is no right answer.

Jimbob1977 · 24-07-2016 12:52PM

Jack Nicholson for Mars Attacks.

Ronald Wilson Reagan · 24-07-2016 01:15PM

I never won a Tony for my performance in the school nativity play.

Elliott S · 24-07-2016 01:57PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Look, first of all, not everything has to have 'nuance' ffs...

Of course not but it's better when they do. As for the rest of your post, I get it, you're a fan. Not everyone is, and they may well have good reasons. I personally found it over the top, So did lots of people. Great if you didn't but that doesn't really matter to how others perceive it. As for it being judged differently now than on release. That happens a lot with films. Their stock can rise and fall on later reflection.

aidan24326 · 24-07-2016 02:32PM

Apocalypse Now only won one oscar and didn't win best picture that year despite being one of the all-time great war movies.

Elliott S · 24-07-2016 02:49PM

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Anyone in Das Boot.
Wonderful movie.

I need to watch that. I am amazed by the all the Hollywood schlock that Wolfgang Petersen made after that though. :eek:

Elliott S · 24-07-2016 02:51PM

secondrowgal wrote: »

Jake Gyllenhall in Nightcrawler - one of the most unlikeable characters ever, even when you understand his motivation and his possible autistic/Asperger's challenges.

I think Jake Gyllenhaal is just a fantastic actor. He lifts mediocre films even when he is in them.

24-07-2016 02:59PM

Speaking of Gyllenhaal, who is a superb actor, how was Donnie Darko overlooked for best original screenplay?

Arcade_Tryer · 24-07-2016 03:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Speaking of Gyllenhaal, who is a superb actor, how was Donnie Darko overlooked for best original screenplay?

Didn't Donnie Darko become a cult favourite?

Arne_Saknussem · 24-07-2016 03:21PM

Day-Lewis should have won best actor for Gerry Conlon in In the Name of the Father, his best performance.

24-07-2016 03:40PM

Elliott S wrote: »

I need to watch that. I am amazed by the all the Hollywood schlock that Wolfgang Petersen made after that though. :eek:

True, it's his finest piece.
Crack out 2 boxes of popcorn, it's a 3 and half hour one the directors cut.

Elliott S · 24-07-2016 04:10PM

Rebecca Hall will win an Oscar in the future hopefully. Great actress, just hasnt found THE role yet.

storker · 24-07-2016 04:11PM

Elliott S wrote: »

I need to watch that. I am amazed by the all the Hollywood schlock that Wolfgang Petersen made after that though. :eek:

Get the longest version you can (it was originally a six-part series) and for crying out loud don't watch the dubbed English version. It's awful. German with subtitles is much better. IMO, of course.

fryup · 25-07-2016 09:33PM

fryup wrote: »

for me it has to be....

Nick Nolte - Thin Red Line

his performance was amazing I honestly think he gave the best screen performance ever in movie history, its incredible esp the scene where he lambasts Captain Staros over the phone with his face contorted with rage with veins popping out of his forehead you'd swear he was right there in the middle of a battle > completely convincing.

and whats disgraceful is that he wasn't even nominated for an oscar for it:cool:

just found it on youtube...still blows me away every time i see it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lPeqyQi-ZI

WinnyThePoo · 25-07-2016 09:48PM

Bruce Campbell in evil dead 2

Ol' Donie · 25-07-2016 09:52PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Clint Eastwood should have won best Actor for either Million Dollar Baby or Gran Torino.

Jaws should have won best picture for 1975,, ahead of One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest.

Hitchcock should have won a bucket load of best Director Oscars.

Clint should have won all the oscars. Even for films he wasn't in.

WinnyThePoo · 25-07-2016 10:05PM

Herzogs fitzcarroldo didn't get nominated. I would have loved to seen footage of Klaus kinski at the Oscars!

Capt'n Midnight · 26-07-2016 09:39PM

osarusan wrote: »

I can't remember who, but some actor or actress said that the oscars should be seen as Hollywood patting itself on the back, rather than a celebration of quality.

Kurosawa ?

Alonso77 · 26-07-2016 09:44PM

Jeremy Irons for Dead Ringers

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