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Have you become desensitised to terrorism,war and general murder in the media?

  • 26-07-2016 10:35AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭


    For years we have all read about explosions, mass killings, kidnapping and isolated murders all in the name of islam. Its recently increased to almost a daily basis.

    Same applies to another american mass shooting. Pointless reading the same story again and again, follow by a few days of outrage and anti gun discussion only to be forgotten in a week and nothing changes.

    Its gotten to the point that i don't even read the articles anymore when i see them in the news feed.

    I mean the list of incidents has been in the hundreds in 2016 alone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I've become desensitised to threads on the topic.


  • Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I am wilfully ignorant of it. I used to watch the news a lot but caring about horrible stuff you can't do anything about just messes you up. Care only about stuff that has a direct impact on me or people I care about, as was the way people thought for most of history. So yeah I suppose I am desensitised to all of it, in the sense that it isn't something I think a lot about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Moo Moo Land


    Many people really just want a high bodycount these days or they lose interest very quickly.
    A bit like the Rambo movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    For years we have all read about explosions, mass killings, kidnapping and isolated murders all in the name of islam. Its recently increased to almost a daily basis.

    Same applies to another american mass shooting. Pointless reading the same story again and again, follow by a few days of outrage and anti gun discussion only to be forgotten in a week and nothing changes.

    Its gotten to the point that i don't even read the articles anymore when i see them in the news feed.

    I mean the list of incidents has been in the hundreds in 2016 alone.

    Most Irish people over the age of forty became desensitized long ago. It was the lead on the evening news at least once a week every week for years and it was all happening a few miles away. Not a new phenomenon. Scumbags using religion as an excuse to get their jollies is old news around here. Catholic, protestant, Islamic sociopaths are all basically the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    It's easy to become desensitised but the truth is political decisions were made without consultation and the consideration of fellow EU member states that have left Europe with a uncertain future. We must continue to be outraged.


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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Someone will be along shortly to tell you that this is the safest time to be alive in Europe right now. That does nothing to allay my fears. I'm doing what I need to do to protect myself and my family and that's add the flag filter of Belgium France Germany to my Facebook profile picture.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Desensitized, no. Not in the slightest. I don't think such a thing happens as much as folks try to make out in the media. If it did US Media would have moved on by now. They seem to need to keep it up. What would be the point if being desensitized was genuinely a thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Breaking News ........


    Just another day in paradise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Global communications (Internet, Facebook, smartphones etc) have ensured that the world is instantly connected.

    We receive news as it happens.

    Forty years ago, similar attacks in France or Germany would have been reported a week later as a footnote in the newspaper. Possibly nobody would have noticed.

    It's hard to tell if the world is getting worse. We just hear about every fact in real time. Previously, we were cocooned to a greater extent.

    I find hashtags and flag profile pictures to be lame. Most people want to be seen to support a cause. In reality, it hasn't impacted their lives... so they don't really care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    No, each attack is another horror.

    My problem in the past week is trying to keep up with what is going on. It should be allowed to feel as if it is the norm.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    meh....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Years ago there would always be rumours about so called snuff movies, people being killed on video. Buy no one ever saw these videos.
    These days there is a new video of someone getting shot, stabbed or run over, posted on Twitter every couple of days.
    Even the way it is reported, mass murder is entertainment now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I grew up in the 70s and 80s in Germany. I remember being convinced as a child that we would have blown the world to smithereens by the year 2000 - it seemed ridiculous and inconceivable that anyone would still be alive then.

    The year 2000 came and went, the world didn't end, no nuclear armageddon, no right-wing resurgence and new concentration camps, no communist distopia, no disaster making the planet uninhabitable.

    So I suppose I just became desensitised quite young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Someone will be along shortly to tell you that this is the safest time to be alive in Europe right now. That does nothing to allay my fears. I'm doing what I need to do to protect myself and my family and that's add the flag filter of Belgium France Germany to my Facebook profile picture.

    Never before in Ireland did we have to worry about our elderly parents going into the local church in a midweek morning. Now that has changed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    the Irish media don't do themselves any favours, reporting every single death that isn't by "natural causes", usually as their main headline, or front page article.
    so it would come as no surprise if there are people being desensitised, as it's become expected/the norm now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Letree wrote: »
    Never before in Ireland did we have to worry about our elderly parents going into the local church in a midweek morning. Now that has changed.

    Really? There was never a bomb or shooting here? Kids didn't have sectarian hatred and abuse hurled at them for trying to get to school?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Letree wrote: »
    Never before in Ireland did we have to worry about our elderly parents going into the local church in a midweek morning. Now that has changed.

    Makes a change from altar boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    longshanks wrote: »
    Years ago there would always be rumours about so called snuff movies, people being killed on video. Buy no one ever saw these videos.
    These days there is a new video of someone getting shot, stabbed or run over, posted on Twitter every couple of days.
    Even the way it is reported, mass murder is entertainment now.

    There's definitely an element of this. The conversation starts immediately, and, perhaps due to desensitization, it becomes immediately "oh, another one; my point is..." Which is awful in its own way, although I do think that people are still viscerally affected by the knowledge of what's going on.

    There is a lot of hate these days. Much of it understandable, some of it just plain grim to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    longshanks wrote: »
    Really? There was never a bomb or shooting here?

    What has that got to do with a Church?
    longshanks wrote: »
    Kids didn't have sectarian hatred and abuse hurled at them for trying to get to school?

    What has that got to do with a Church?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Yes.
    And Vincent Browne thinks we should, too.
    Because apparently road accidents are more worthy of attention than crazy extremists actually wanting to kill a load of Europeans with knives, hammers, guns, trucks, bombs....
    And whatever it is tomorrow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Nope, I grew up with terrorism, the pain and suffering of the victims never dissipates, nor does my pure loathing for anyone who carries out such an attack, supports such an attack, or sees such an attack as an opportunity to underpin their own agenda


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Nope, I grew up with terrorism, the pain and suffering of the victims never dissipates, nor does my pure loathing for anyone who carries out such an attack, supports such an attack, or sees such an attack as an opportunity to underpin their own agenda

    Far from it was I rared, but seeing it being done on TV, supposedly in my name, sickens me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,354 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I think Westerners are desensitised to death when its far away, but not when its on their own doorstep.

    Dozens die daily at the hands of ISIS, but most are very far away and so do not seem to be as important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    Nope, I grew up with terrorism, the pain and suffering of the victims never dissipates, nor does my pure loathing for anyone who carries out such an attack, supports such an attack, or sees such an attack as an opportunity to underpin their own agenda

    In rural Donegal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    The Muslim community need to do more to fight extermism in their community. Far too much pro extremist sentiment tolerated and it's going to eventually have some serious blowback.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    The Muslim community need to do more to fight extermism in their community. Far too much pro extremist sentiment tolerated and it's going to eventually have some serious blowback.

    I'd love it if they were able to, but I suspect that there's little they could do themselves. The moderate communities will already speak out against it and assist fighting radicalisation as much as they can. And consequently, the more radical elements go of and form their own communities, with as much hatred for moderate Muslims as for anyone else.

    It's a little like asking the Catholic church to reign in the Westboro Baptist church.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Letree wrote: »
    In rural Donegal?

    Yep. Donegal borders four counties. Leitrim is one, can you name the other three?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I'd love it if they were able to, but I suspect that there's little they could do themselves. The moderate communities will already speak out against it and assist fighting radicalisation as much as they can. And consequently, the more radical elements go of and form their own communities, with as much hatred for moderate Muslims as for anyone else.

    It's a little like asking the Catholic church to reign in the Westboro Baptist church.

    Proextremist speakers should not be speaking in Mosques in the West. The community are giving them a platform.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    Proextremist speakers should not be speaking in Mosques in the West. The community are giving them a platform.

    I would agree. However, they usually don't speak in the mosques run by and frequented by rational, moderate Muslims. So it's not those communities giving them a platform - they're just as scared of those guys as you and me.
    It's the communities that already are radicalised or were formed by radical that will invite those type of preachers.

    The million dollar question is how to disrupt those communities and talk some sense into them.


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