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Anyone else getting sick of smartphones?

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  • #32
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • #33
    LunarSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Well if ye all sit in a pub on your smartphones ignoring each other, then you need new friends, not retro phones.


  • #34
    CountingCrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭CountingCrows


    FortySeven wrote: »
    I never understood 999 for emergencies. I had to dial it twice on a rotary phone. Took ages. 111 would have made more sense.

    The emergency services here horse drawn back when rotary phones were all the rage so don't think that extra 15 seconds were critical.


  • #35
    maudgonner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Smartphones are great.

    But they have completely ruined table quizzes. :mad:


  • #36
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    LunarSea wrote: »
    A lot of your post reeks of bullsheet.

    Tonnes of effort goes into designing them these days. The tech in them, heat dissipation, structural integrity, cramming all that tech in, etc. The interesting thing isn't the physical phone (which is basically now a big screen to facilitate where the design does happen - the continiously evolving OS).

    All apps tell you your permissions - stop installing ones you have to pay for and you're not comfortable with. If the phone is running slowly after a time, as above, stop installing shít apps.

    Sure, people used it as a way of avoiding social interaction. But in the past books, newspapers, personal audio was used to do the same. Phones aren't killing conversation. Dullards are. And a dullard will always be a dullard, regardless of what tech they do or don't have in their hands.

    I've a map, GPS, fitness tracker, library of books and music, can look up anything on the internet, old video game console emulators, a real time translator, a 20 mega-pixel camera, can ring friends living abroad for next to no data usage blah blah blah in my pocket. I don't sit glued to the thing all day - that's a choice I make (as I have self restraint and other **** too be doing anyway), but it's pretty handy thing to have in my pocket.

    Fúcking luddites.

    Same chipset goes into loads of phones, then they horse standard android onto it. Put it into a rectangular case and off to China land for mass production. Then you have the turd that is android, tis like Windows XP used to be. 99% of free apps are basically spyware (the stuff we used to run scanners for to identify and remove) because the f*ckers writing it all want to become billionaires from selling ads.


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  • #37
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    FortySeven wrote: »
    I never understood 999 for emergencies. I had to dial it twice on a rotary phone. Took ages. 111 would have made more sense.

    I suppose that's why it's 112 in most countries. 111 is probably the speaking clock or something

    Ireland probably brought in telephone emergency services when everyone already had touch tone dialing


  • #38
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Ya you're right Op, just read this thread on my smartphone and then vomited into my G&T.


  • #39
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    beks101 wrote: »
    That's the thing though, isn't it. We avoid each other now. We don't listen to or see each other.

    We sit at restaurant tables checking in on facebook instead of interacting with our actual friends, we walk down the street staring at our phones instead of making eye contact with strangers, we record rather than experience moments of awe and wonder in our lives and then sit at home watching the 'likes' roll in, we watch global news unfold in real-time on our phones all day every day instead of on the 6 o'clock news after which we can get on with our lives until tomorrow's broadcast, we can barely survive an hour or two without our phones connecting us to the world and yet we're about as disconnected as humans can be to each other. We are robots.

    I used to be guilty as charged but in the last few months it's really starting to fcuk me off. Sitting across from friends or colleagues at a pub or bar and watching them turn to stare into their phone screens mid-conversation as they light up with a new text or tweet every 2 minutes. My 67-year-old mother asking for the wifi password five minutes after we've sat down in a restaurant so she can check her whatsapp messages. Randomers on the bus or train making duck faces as they snap #tubeselfies completely oblivious and apathetic to other passers-by.

    Smart phones are making us rude, and boring, and totally detached from the real un-hashtagged world.

    This generation's version of "always on the gameboy" which was only that generation's version of "always has that walkman on him" which was just that generation's "always has her nose in a book" I mean sorry that nobody's mind is blown but Jesus dont you think this is a pretty boring sentiment? I'm sure if you go far back enough two auld cavemen could be witnessed shaking their tiny skulls and grunting about the kids always playing with those slightly pointier rocks you get nowadays.

    Smartphones connect to an incredible world of knowledge, entertainment and interaction. If that sometimes seems more enticing to a lot of people than the company that geographical or societal constraint has you sat beside that's hardly an astonishment, surely? And imo each successive generation gets, if anything, more communicative and more socially adept than mine.

    And the world moves on, again.


  • #41
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    They just changed the definition of what spyware is. Anything that just sends a bit of harmless user data it collects on you is considered harmless these days. Back in the day it was considered outrageous. Now everything phones home


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  • #42
    GalwayKiefer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭GalwayKiefer


    I'd be lost without mine but I really wish batteries would catch up with the demands smartphones put on them. Mine seems to go from the charger at home, to the charger in the car etc.


  • #43
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    beks101 wrote: »
    That's the thing though, isn't it. We avoid each other now. We don't listen to or see each other.

    We sit at restaurant tables checking in on facebook instead of interacting with our actual friends, we walk down the street staring at our phones instead of making eye contact with strangers,
    Remember the days of having to arrange to meet hours in advance, at a predetermined location, and if you were late, your friends were gone. Or if you got lost during a gig, you went home by yourself, cause there was no way to contact anyone.
    beks101 wrote: »
    we record rather than experience moments of awe and wonder in our lives and then sit at home watching the 'likes' roll in,
    Think of how many wonderful moments are captured and shared around the world. The number of smiles you have each day looking at humerous pictures and videos, the number of parents and grandparents who can watch the kids grow up, no matter where they are in the world.
    beks101 wrote: »
    we watch global news unfold in real-time on our phones all day every day instead of on the 6 o'clock news after which we can get on with our lives until tomorrow's broadcast,
    Now we have news delivered to us instead of having to be at home, in front of the telly at a particular time. You know the bus or train is delayed, you know there's an accident and a particular route is to be avoided, you are much more informed about the world around you and not limited by the information that could be fitted into a 30 minute TV slot, or a local paper
    beks101 wrote: »
    we can barely survive an hour or two without our phones connecting us to the world and yet we're about as disconnected as humans can be to each other. We are robots.
    No different that years back. People think that we were all super social animals and we've lost that in recent years.
    Nope. Instead of looking out the bus window in silence, now we're keeping up with our friends, or learnign new things, or interacting and spreading new ideas on boards.ie
    beks101 wrote: »
    I used to be guilty as charged but in the last few months it's really starting to fcuk me off. Sitting across from friends or colleagues at a pub or bar and watching them turn to stare into their phone screens mid-conversation as they light up with a new text or tweet every 2 minutes. My 67-year-old mother asking for the wifi password five minutes after we've sat down in a restaurant so she can check her whatsapp messages.
    Thats the fault of your friends or mother. Not smartphones.
    beks101 wrote: »
    Randomers on the bus or train making duck faces as they snap #tubeselfies completely oblivious and apathetic to other passers-by.
    Why should they care what passers by think. They're just having fun and not hurting anyone.


  • #44
    riclad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I use the music app. radio app.thats about it .
    You don,t have to download apps.
    My phone works fine.
    The iphone is for apple fanboys or people showing off .
    i,m a poser.
    you can still buy basic phones .non smartphones .
    Install an adblocker to block ads .Did everyone have the wit and wisdom of
    oscar wilde before smartphones came along.
    People mostly talked about tv,sport ,gossip etc
    Even before smartphones people would download ringtones ,
    and play basic games on a nokia phone .Smart people can still talk, dull people are still dull .
    Smartphones are good in that they allow anyone to acess the web
    even someone who cant afford a pc.
    i,ve never seen anyone using a laptop in a pub, maybe in a cafe .
    All phones have a grid of apps ,which you tap or swipe.
    it works .
    Theres no point in reinventing the wheel.
    Every new invention is criticised .
    people use them for work,email,to text a friend.
    Smartphones will be around for another 20 years at least.


  • #45
    LunarSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Same chipset goes into loads of phones, then they horse standard android onto it. Put it into a rectangular case and off to China land for mass production. Then you have the turd that is android, tis like Windows XP used to be. 99% of free apps are basically spyware (the stuff we used to run scanners for to identify and remove) because the f*ckers writing it all want to become billionaires from selling ads.

    Ahahaha, there's so much wrong with that post I don't even know where to begin.

    Android is like Windows XP? So Android is like Microsoft's best OS to date? K... Android isn't perfect, but it's the best out of the three by miles. And you can root the **** out of it.

    Would you prefer if the phone was shaped like a decahedron? That'd be some craic. All phones are basically rectangular. No need to reinvent the wheel and whatnot.

    "Made in China" doesn't mean the same thing it did in the 80s. Pretty much all the electrnics in your home were probably manufactured there. I've an Xperia Z3 - if that's the build quality of stuff coming out of China then here's to more of it...


  • #46
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    eeguy wrote: »
    Remember the days of having to arrange to meet hours in advance, at a predetermined location, and if you were late, your friends were gone. Or if you got lost during a gig, you went home by yourself, cause there was no way to contact anyone.

    Think of how many wonderful moments are captured and shared around the world. The number of smiles you have each day looking at humerous pictures and videos, the number of parents and grandparents who can watch the kids grow up, no matter where they are in the world.

    Now we have news delivered to us instead of having to be at home, in front of the telly at a particular time. You know the bus or train is delayed, you know there's an accident and a particular route is to be avoided, you are much more informed about the world around you and not limited by the information that could be fitted into a 30 minute TV slot, or a local paper

    No different that years back. People think that we were all super social animals and we've lost that in recent years.
    Nope. Instead of looking out the bus window in silence, now we're keeping up with our friends, or learnign new things, or interacting and spreading new ideas on boards.ie

    Thats the fault of your friends or mother. Not smartphones.

    Why should they care what passers by think. They're just having fun and not hurting anyone.

    Now its far too easy to cancel because everyone has phones. So if 1 or 2 people think they prefer to spend the evening making fingerpuppets from old socks in bed they'll cancel at a moments notice. Back that time people actually showed up

    Think of how many hours people waste 'sharing' useless sh1t nobody wants to see

    The news is actually just depressing and life improves when you stop paying attention to it.

    I notice people are a fair bit less social than they used to be. Don't know if its because of phones or something else. I suppose cheap phone calls might have opened the floodgates for some people to be bombarded with unwanted communication and now put a fair bit of effort into fending people off


  • #47
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    LunarSea wrote: »
    "Made in China" doesn't mean the same thing it did in the 80s. Pretty much all the electrnics in your home were probably manufactured there. I've an Xperia Z3 - if that's the build quality of stuff coming out of China then here's to more of it...

    The best stuff in the world is made in China. The best production engineers in the world are working there.


  • #48
    LunarSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Skilaufen wrote: »
    Because it gives you a connection to other people. It gives you a connection to the present moment, it's tgis lack of connection to the orrsent moment that has do many people suffereing from depression.

    And as someone that has experienced anxiety having loads of passer bys constantly making eye contact would leave me with sweat rolling down my brow.

    So lack of eye contact strangers is a root cause of depression? Do tell us more...


  • #49
    LunarSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    eeguy wrote: »
    The best stuff in the world is made in China. The best production engineers in the world are working there.

    Yeah that was my point.


  • #50
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #51
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    LunarSea wrote: »
    Ahahaha, there's so much wrong with that post I don't even know where to begin.

    Android is like Windows XP? So Android is like Microsoft's best OS to date? K... Android isn't perfect, but it's the best out of the three by miles. And you can root the **** out of it.

    Would you prefer if the phone was shaped like a decahedron? That'd be some craic. All phones are basically rectangular. No need to reinvent the wheel and whatnot.

    "Made in China" doesn't mean the same thing it did in the 80s. Pretty much all the electrnics in your home were probably manufactured there. I've an Xperia Z3 - if that's the build quality of stuff coming out of China then here's to more of it...

    A different shape would be something. Phones last a lot shorter than they did before. 1 year in you'll be getting reminded in the form of the thing subtly starting to fall apart that its time for a new one. Android is messy, iOS is very locked down and restricted, not much in between.

    A decahedron would be a welcome change from the usual


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  • #52
    FortySeven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    I wish batteries were easily replaced so I could keep my HTC one. It's all glue and screen removal. I want a battery I can just pop out.


  • #53
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #54
    LunarSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    FortySeven wrote: »
    I wish batteries were easily replaced so I could keep my HTC one. It's all glue and screen removal. I want a battery I can just pop out.

    That's a decision you could have looked into before purchase.


  • #55
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Now its far too easy to cancel because everyone has phones. So if 1 or 2 people think they prefer to spend the evening making fingerpuppets from old socks in bed they'll cancel at a moments notice. Back that time people actually showed up
    Or they didn't show up. And you didn't know why and waited an hour in the rain under Clery's clock.
    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Think of how many hours people waste 'sharing' useless sh1t nobody wants to see
    That's down to the people you follow and communicate with. People obviously do want to see it or they wouldn't share it.
    Most of my friends share stuff I'm interested in, so I'm very happy.
    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    The news is actually just depressing and life improves when you stop paying attention to it.
    Just the times we live in. You can also use your smartphone to only look at "good" news.
    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    I notice people are a fair bit less social than they used to be. Don't know if its because of phones or something else. I suppose cheap phone calls might have opened the floodgates for some people to be bombarded with unwanted communication and now put a fair bit of effort into fending people off
    People are much more social now. If I'm going to the cinema in 30 mins I can tell my friends in a group chat, and we all co-ordinate and meet at the right place at the right time. Group chats are deadly.
    No more sh*t of "I call this person, you call that person" in a game of Chinese Whispers.

    Also, meetup.com, tinder and so many other apps have revolutionised socialising.
    People used to worry about older rural people becoming isolated. Smartphones and the internet mean that anyone can talk to a person at any time of the day.


  • #56
    FortySeven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    LunarSea wrote: »
    That's a decision you could have looked into before purchase.

    I did look into it but my job and life requires a fairly sturdy phone. The HTC was the only phone with a solid chassis at the time. Even in an otter box it's not safe. It's held up well but battery is not as good as it was.


  • #57
    ibstar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭ibstar


    OP it's OK. we all get old at some time in our lives.


  • #58
    SimonTemplar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Smartphones are a technological wonder. The things we can now do on a small handheld device was only the stuff of science fiction in the not too distant past.

    What annoys me about smartphones is people being glued to them in situations were it is inappropriate to use them


  • #59
    LunarSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    A different shape would be something. Phones last a lot shorter than they did before. 1 year in you'll be getting reminded in the form of the thing subtly starting to fall apart that its time for a new one. Android is messy, iOS is very locked down and restricted, not much in between.

    A decahedron would be a welcome change from the usual

    My two longest running phones were a Siemens... something something - it was my first phone in 2003 and lasted over 3 years. My other longest was a smartphone - a Nokia Lumia 620, 3.5 years. I only got a new phone as I was moving onto a different network. That thing could well be still going.


    Yeah, I'm sure you would love a decahedron shaped phone. Yo're not trolling at all with that one, no siree :rolleyes:


  • #60
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    mansize wrote: »
    My dad still manages to get the basic mobile phones.
    Same here. Still have the €20 Samsung I bought a few years ago. If I lived in a city I'd probably upgrade to a smartphone but living in the countryside there isn't much of a need when I have the laptop at home and life moves at a slower place.

    I agree about the cheaper phones getting worse though. For example, I used to have a decent Samsung flip phone with a flashlight on it. Don't see them about anymore. It was great for having sex with women in the dark as I could activate the flashlight to get a good look at her hole(s) when she refused to turn on the lights.


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  • #61
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    mansize wrote: »
    I think Smart Phones are a real boon.

    (Largely because I love using that word :D)

    Played by Michael Elphick..... :)

    (Just a bit of a memory trigger...sorry :o )


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