Giving up the gange

Microdot · 24-07-2016 12:22PM

200e a week? you must be smoking pure green Op to spend that much. Just go back to smoking soapbar and start from there,
you will soon get sick of it.

Jesus. · 24-07-2016 12:31PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I've known a few including somebody quite close to me who went down the loser route with it. 27 year old chap, never graduated and working in the local Tesco

Hmm. Don't think I'd agree with you there old boy.

Somebody who goes out to work all day and pays their way in this World is not a loser in my book.

biko · 24-07-2016 01:53PM

Switch to oregano, same thing.

IamtheWalrus · 24-07-2016 02:01PM

I guess you smoke so much to numb your mind / avoid facing your issues. See a psychotherapist. You deserve a better life than this.

Saipanne · 24-07-2016 02:06PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Cannabis is not addictive, it is the habit that is hard to break as you say that you smoked it every day of the week, so you are just used to it, but it's only the habit that makes you think it's addictive when it's not.

I've got the other problem now but with alcohol, I love a beer, many beers but I cannot ever drink alcohol again for the remainder of my life. I'm really going to miss having a nice cool beer. One nice thing though is waking up with no hangover anymore. So it will be a few nice joints from here on out.

Yeah, cannabis isn't addictive, man. It's just really really really really hard to stop. And when you do, there are symptoms of withdrawal, man. Totally not addictive, man.

24-07-2016 02:10PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

See a psychotherapist.

Better still, see a professional.

Stasi 2.0 · 24-07-2016 02:41PM

Clownyface wrote: »

sick of being breathless walking up the stairs

Get thyself a vapouriser

Seriously Ive never understood people who justify* smoking cannabis by saying its safer than alcohol/tobacco etc only to mix the stuff with tobacco Makes about as much sense as buying the finest champagne and serving it in a cocktail with antifreeze,

Clownyface wrote: »

sick of paying 200 euros per week on it,

This might sound like an AH answer but you're clearly doing it wrong.

Like any drug weed is fine in its place but one shouldnt let it rule ones life.

* Insofsr as any justification is actually required

IamtheWalrus · 24-07-2016 03:04PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Better still, see a professional.

I'd avoid a doctor who loves prescribing pills.

24-07-2016 03:19PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I'd avoid a doctor who loves prescribing pills.

That's a decision that can be made later. The anti-medication/ anti-psychiatry brigade are not only anti-scientific, they are as extremist in their views as the brigade who insist that medication is the only solution (personally, I've never met anyone who advanced that opinion)

Anti-psychiatry has swung too far, and it's time to return to the centre ground.

Personally, I place a lot more trust in a modern, accredited psychiatric specialist or consultant psychiatrist, with the full battery of treatments available to them (from counselling to medication) than I would in some psychotherapist quack, of which there are many, and many of whom have no qualifications.

we'llallhavetea · 24-07-2016 05:20PM

i'm not at the stage where i want to quit but the money i spend on it per week (€100) fcuking galls me. havent got a vaporiser though, keep meaning to get one.
not shocked you spend 200 at all, i only smoke at night time and spend half that. used to be only a nifty a week but i can't decide if its the quality of the weed or if i've built up a resistance thats made the amount double in the last few months.

Bongalongherb · 24-07-2016 06:06PM

Saipanne wrote: »

Yeah, cannabis isn't addictive, man. It's just really really really really hard to stop. And when you do, there are symptoms of withdrawal, man. Totally not addictive, man.

How many times do I have to say this... Cannabis is not addictive, do your research. I can't stop eating apples, does that make me addicted to apples, No, I just like apples too much. If you want to get off the weed just stop smoking it, but more than likely it's the tobacco you are mixing with it OP that makes you think you are addicted to the cannabis but it's the tobacco you're addicted to.

Addicted to cannabis, I heard it all now, absolute rubbish.

J Mysterio · 24-07-2016 06:12PM

Weed is definitely mentally addictive, if not physically addictive. It affects our brain chemistry so can create a dependency in that way.

I understand your argument but ive smoked regularly for 10+ years and am not for shifting from that position.

Im actually currently debating whether or not I should get a bit. Difficult.

Stasi 2.0 · 24-07-2016 06:37PM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

How many times do I have to say this... Cannabis is not addictive, do your research.

While not addictive in the same way as alcohol/tobacco I doubt if anyone can realistically claim its 100% non-addictive.

Any substance/behaviour is potentially addictive if one has an addictive personality.

Aongus Von Bismarck · 24-07-2016 08:51PM

My brother was a habitual cannabis smoker for around 10 years. It took some tough love from me to knock him into shape, and he assured me only this weekend that he hasn't touched the stuff in almost a year. He certainly looks healthier and is far more motivated. I'm glad that my actions had such a positive impact. I'll never trust the chap, but our relationship is now one of sibling cordiality.

Alas, his 'bong buddies' haven't yet seen the light. I was with my brother in one of the pubs in the town I grew up in on Friday, and a number of them were present. They still had that slow and lumbering gait, eyes sunk back into the head, and that sickly grey colour on the face - the classic hallmarks of the heavy cannabis user. There is also a propensity towards wearing ancient converse runners, heavy metal t-shirts, and having unhygienic looking facial hair.

I made small talk with one of them and asked him if he thought Galway would win on Sunday (today, they did, comprehensively). He didn't even know it was on. It wasn't long before he was ranting to me about my job as a banker, how the Jews and the Rothschilds were controlling everything, and how fluoride in the water was making people placid and stupid. I resisted the urge to quip that smoking huge amounts of weed was a much more likely cause of stupor.

IamtheWalrus · 24-07-2016 10:23PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That's a decision that can be made later. The anti-medication/ anti-psychiatry brigade are not only anti-scientific, they are as extremist in their views as the brigade who insist that medication is the only solution (personally, I've never met anyone who advanced that opinion)

Anti-psychiatry has swung too far, and it's time to return to the centre ground.

Personally, I place a lot more trust in a modern, accredited psychiatric specialist or consultant psychiatrist, with the full battery of treatments available to them (from counselling to medication) than I would in some psychotherapist quack, of which there are many, and many of whom have no qualifications.

On the contrary, I'm not anti-scientific at all. To clarify my point; I've seen many cases where doctors have put friends on anti-depressives after a 10 minute consultation. Who am I to question their training, but to me that's too reactionary. Folk who self-medicate are avoiding something painful. Yes, in the short term, medication can make one feel better I think getting to the route of the problem is surely a must.

In reference to the OP, an over-reliance on cannabis to help with anxiety tells me he/she would be best facing their issue, understanding it and then seeing what options are out there. In my view a good psychotherapist can aid this.

Alcoheda · 24-07-2016 11:57PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

They still had that slow and lumbering gait, eyes sunk back into the head, and that sickly grey colour on the face - the classic hallmarks of the heavy cannabis user. There is also a propensity towards wearing ancient converse runners, heavy metal t-shirts, and having unhygienic looking facial hair.

That's ridiculous.

J Mysterio · 25-07-2016 12:00AM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

On the contrary, I'm not anti-scientific at all. To clarify my point; I've seen many cases where doctors have put friends on anti-depressives after a 10 minute consultation. Who am I to question their training, but to me that's too reactionary. Folk who self-medicate are avoiding something painful. Yes, in the short term, medication can make one feel better I think getting to the route of the problem is surely a must.

In reference to the OP, an over-reliance on cannabis to help with anxiety tells me he/she would be best facing their issue, understanding it and then seeing what options are out there. In my view a good psychotherapist can aid this.

I agree.

Also, for people who have gone through serious trauma in their lives, it can be of huge benefit.

evolving_doors · 25-07-2016 02:46AM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

How many times do I have to say this... Cannabis is not addictive, do your research. I can't stop eating apples, does that make me addicted to apples, No, I just like apples too much. If you want to get off the weed just stop smoking it, but more than likely it's the tobacco you are mixing with it OP that makes you think you are addicted to the cannabis but it's the tobacco you're addicted to.

Addicted to cannabis, I heard it all now, absolute rubbish.

Have you ever tried to stop eating apples?
If not then you don't know if you're addicted or not.
Although the fact that you said you like them 'too much ' would indicate that you are an addict. Otherwise it wouldn't be too much. Ever hear about the alcoholic who always drank 'enough '?

Clampdown · 25-07-2016 03:09AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

My brother was a habitual cannabis smoker for around 10 years. It took some tough love from me to knock him into shape, and he assured me only this weekend that he hasn't touched the stuff in almost a year. He certainly looks healthier and is far more motivated. I'm glad that my actions had such a positive impact. I'll never trust the chap, but our relationship is now one of sibling cordiality.

Alas, his 'bong buddies' haven't yet seen the light. I was with my brother in one of the pubs in the town I grew up in on Friday, and a number of them were present. They still had that slow and lumbering gait, eyes sunk back into the head, and that sickly grey colour on the face - the classic hallmarks of the heavy cannabis user. There is also a propensity towards wearing ancient converse runners, heavy metal t-shirts, and having unhygienic looking facial hair.

I made small talk with one of them and asked him if he thought Galway would win on Sunday (today, they did, comprehensively). He didn't even know it was on. It wasn't long before he was ranting to me about my job as a banker, how the Jews and the Rothschilds were controlling everything, and how fluoride in the water was making people placid and stupid. I resisted the urge to quip that smoking huge amounts of weed was a much more likely cause of stupor.

1st paragraph: You take credit for him quitting with your tough love and positive actions. Well done you.

2nd paragraph is like something out of those old 'Reefer Madness' propaganda films. (Oh no, you'll end up wearing dirty runners!) You know how many successful people use herb? Most likely the creator of the device you are using to access boards, for a start.

3rd paragraph: well, he may be a 'doper' but he is kinda right. You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that bankers have done a ridiculous amount of harm all over the world.

Anyway I just got upaer because you insulted Converse. I quit ages ago but I still love wearing ancient converse. They look better the more beat up they are. I actually get sad when they become totally unusable and I have to get new ones.The only thing would make me sadder would be to work in a bank and think that my money gives me the right to look down on people.

Aongus Von Bismarck · 25-07-2016 10:55AM

Alcoheda wrote: »

That's ridiculous.

May I ask why? I don't have friends who smoke cannabis and I'm not au fait with stoner culture (apart from knowing they love family guy, chilli heatwave dorittos and conspiracy theories). What I have observed from my brother and his friends is that smoking this drug on a regular basis makes them look pasty and sickly.

PistolsAtDawn · 25-07-2016 11:28AM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Weed is definitely mentally addictive, if not physically addictive. It affects our brain chemistry so can create a dependency in that way.

I understand your argument but ive smoked regularly for 10+ years and am not for shifting from that position.

Im actually currently debating whether or not I should get a bit. Difficult.

Correct answer = Get it

beach_walker · 25-07-2016 11:48AM

I sensibly (well...) left it til I was graduated and had a decent job before forming a weed habit. For three years I smoked a load. Was stoned pretty much most days in the week (would usually leave it til the evening at least). I lived with a fellow smoker and that probably exacerbated things. I'm two years off the rubbish now (more a case of moving abroad rather than a deliberate thing). It's amazing how much your mind clears up. I couldn't go back to that existence.

Was home a month ago and planned to meet up with ex-housemate, said I'd meet him at 9 (with some other friends). Get a text at half ten, "Just up, will be along shortly." Next one at midnight, "Sorry, coming soon." 3 a.m. "Feel free to call over, have pizza". Re-scheduled for another night, didn't make it this time as he got into a big smoke at at a dealers house with the lads. I feel sad for him tbh. I know them all and would have been there stuck right in it years ago, spouting the same sh!te and wasting days.

Don't get me wrong, we had craic. But when it starts impacting your life, work, social life and you find yourself in a haze more often than not, time to grow up.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 25-07-2016 12:27PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

May I ask why? I don't have friends who smoke cannabis and I'm not au fait with stoner culture (apart from knowing they love family guy, chilli heatwave dorittos and conspiracy theories). What I have observed from my brother and his friends is that smoking this drug on a regular basis makes them look pasty and sickly.

Aongus - you can toot my doobie any day of the week

Alcoheda · 25-07-2016 12:44PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

May I ask why? I don't have friends who smoke cannabis and I'm not au fait with stoner culture (apart from knowing they love family guy, chilli heatwave dorittos and conspiracy theories). What I have observed from my brother and his friends is that smoking this drug on a regular basis makes them look pasty and sickly.

You're conflating your resentment of your brothers friends with the effects of cannabis use.

I've got a conspiracy theory for you... I think you're a little jelly cause your brother actually has friends :pac: amarite?!!

Also, no amount of mind altering substances could make me voluntarily watch family guy.

Your Face · 25-07-2016 12:45PM

Clown

Dyr · 25-07-2016 12:59PM

200 euros a week over how many years?

That's some bollix of a dealer you've got

Captain Flaps · 25-07-2016 01:13PM

Oh look, another thread with Aongus von Bismark flexing the 'insufferable arsehole' angle troll.

Riddle101 · 25-07-2016 01:36PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMdRj8X2EpU

Bongalongherb · 25-07-2016 01:43PM

Gebgbegb wrote: »

Have you ever tried to stop eating apples?
If not then you don't know if you're addicted or not.
Although the fact that you said you like them 'too much ' would indicate that you are an addict. Otherwise it wouldn't be too much. Ever hear about the alcoholic who always drank 'enough '?

Yeah I did, The alcoholic ended up getting cirrhosis of the liver.

HardenendMan · 25-07-2016 02:20PM

Hey OP, swap for a €300 per week Coke habit?

Giving up the gange

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