Do you know the Irish national anthem? Why/Why not?

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

As you should. What get's me is that some Irish people are proud not to know it!
The same people (no doubt) who make sure to say "t g four" when saying tg4!
:rolleyes:

Jayus....

I wouldn't say I'm proud not to know the national anthem. Glad is the word I would probably use. It's T G Ceathair. Fair is fair. That is the pronunciation of the station. One which I will always have a fondness for due to its airing of The Wire way back when.

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

I wouldn't say I'm proud not to know the national anthem. Glad is the word I would probably use. It's T G Ceathair. Fair is fair. That is the pronunciation of the station. One which I will always have a fondness for due to its airing of The Wire way back when.

If you tried you would have it learnt in a quicker time then it took you to read this entire thread...

But I suppose you are glad you read it????!!

Stasi 2.0 wrote: »

What wrong with that ?

If one is speaking about BBC1 while speaking Irish they'd say "BBC a hAon"

So if one is speaking English why would they refer to TG4 as anything other than "TG Four" ?

1) Anyone who has done any level of Irish from basic school level would have no difficulty in refferering to tg4 as tg "ceathair" as this is it's correct name.

Much like the word "luas" which means speed.

2) Irish people who have a ferocious anti-Irish language bias make sure to use the word "four" when referring to tg4.
Interestingly these same set of people happily use the word "luas" when referring to the Dublin tram system.
I can surmise that this cohort do not use the word "speed" for the Luas as translating it would be far to much effort for them, as the word would not be common knowledge so they would ironically be showing pride in the language if they admitted they knew that much!

3) It is this same cohort of people who take pride in not knowing our national anthem and go out of thier way not to learn it.

4) I have no problem with the Taoiseach being referred to the Irish Prime Minister on British, or other foreign channels.

Would you as an Irish person be more likely to say the following?

"I saw that b0llocks of a Prime Minister/Chief standing beside the Speed, singing the "Solider's Song"

Or would you would you more likely say?

"I saw that b0llocks of a Taoiseach standing beside the Luas, singing "Amhrán na bhFiann"

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I know all of it, except a couple of words between "Anocht..." agus "...sa Bearna Bhaoil"

Literally it means:

Tonight we man the gap of danger

From the following site:

http://div8aoh.homestead.com/Soldierssong.html

"The phrase Bhearna Bhoil, in the Irish language, means the Gap of Danger, and refers to a battle in the rising of 1798, when John Kelly, the Boy from Killan, led a charge against the Bewley Gates in the seige of New Ross. The carnage at that location earned it the title Bhearna Bhaoil, and it became a symbol of the danger that Ireland's sons were willing to face for her freedom. Even when The Soldier's Song is translated into other languages, the term Bhearna Baoil remains in the Irish."

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Literally it means:

Tonight we man the gap of danger

Sounds like a porn spoof....

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Why? Because you say so?

Because it's our National Anthem. A basic tenet of any country

I can't even remember what is sounds like. I do remember thinking it was pretty crappy though.

FortySeven wrote: »

15 years here and I'd be willng to give you 15 minutes if you would just stop pretending anyone actually spoke your 'language' in any meaningful way.

You already know the word Taoiseach, Luas, bearna bhaoil, and ceathair if you have read this thread!

11 lines of Irish in a song won't kill you would it?

To be so antagonist towards a language/culture/heritage is very sad.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

You already know the word Taoiseach, Luas, bearna bhaoil, and ceathair if you have read this thread!

11 lines of Irish in a song won't kill you would it?

To be so antagonist towards a language/culture/heritage is very sad.

Wow.

You do realise it's not about the number of lines or the length of time it would take to learn it? It's the simple fact that a lot of people simply do not care about it. And that is perfectly normal. And is their right.

To be so antagonistic towards the importance, or lack of, that other people place on language/culture/heritage is much more sad tbh.

Yes, I can sing it in Irish, although the quality of the singing would be a bit questionable.

I'll be honest, it disappoints me to see or hear of people who willingly make a point of avoiding a little national pride just because they're not arsed. There's been some downright displays of ignorance of Irish culture and an attitude of hatred (let's call a spade a spade) towards the Irish language which really annoys me. A sovereign nation should have citizens that are at least capable of a minute and a half of reasonable unity and some semblance of national pride - nobody's asking you to fly a ten-foot tricolour from their chimney or take up arms for Ireland.

If you really aren't in the slightest bit interested in the culture of the state and don't in the least bit want to engage in its traditions - I've said this here before - off elsewhere and surrender your passport on the way out. Cheers.

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Wow.

You do realise it's not about the number of lines or the length of time it would take to learn it? It's the simple fact that a lot of people simply do not care about it. And that is perfectly normal..

Wow me @rse. Now the truth is out your just anti- the Irish language for no particular reason at all.
It is about the number of lines in it.
If I lived in France or Germany I would learn the French/German anthem.
Why? Because it is the part of culture/history/and heritage of the country.

It is worse still that an Irish citizen would be so anti a simple song whether you like it or not is part of your heritage and history.