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Alternative to Eflow as due to dispute cannot be used
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Foo King Ell wrote: »Question? If eflow tag no longer works on 20% of the toll plazas, then is the price going to be reduced by 20% on the monthly charge?
I think you already know the answer to that question!
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I'm exactly like yourself.. I consider PAYG to be something for kids with mobile phones who don't pay their own bills. As an adult who deals with every other bill monthly, I see no reason why I should be forced to deal with a top-up system.. especially when there is a post-pay system in place (with EasyTrip) for "business" customers.
Must give them a call next week on it and see what they say.
There's loads of times in life you pay as you go! Look at Easytrip like money behind the bar, you drink till it's gone, and then the barman asks you if you want to put more in the tab. no more money, no more beer! 0 -
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Prepay makes sense to a lot of people, including adults. I'm a business user. I have an automatic debit set up for 20 EUR a month. I get unlimited calls and 15 GB data. I know all I'll be paying each month is 20 E and won't get ripped off with unexpected charges from unnamed operators. For me, it's easy and convenient. Not just for kids who don't pay bills. And not sure why you're trying to compare toll tags with mobile phone plans...
Fair enough .. it works for you. Me I get a similar package for €25 that's on a 30-day rolling contract, has all calls and texts with 60GB data, as well as roaming and 30-day credit terms.
My point though is that I - as a rule - do not like PAYG, and I also avoid DD when possible as well because my experience with mobile companies, utilities and others is that most Irish companies cannot handle it properly and when something (inevitably and frequently) goes wrong, I've been the one left making multiple long phone calls to sort it out and out of pocket in the meantime.
For that reason I much prefer a single monthly bill on a fixed date for a set (or predictable) amount.. and given that Easytrip DO offer this service to business customers they clearly have the systems in-place to support it.
The only reasons I can think of that they aren't offering it to consumers are that they don't trust them to pay the bill (and do quite well on interest on the inaccessible sum they retain as a minimum balance) - and personally I resent the implication that I can't honour a post-pay bill like an adult.
As its only really one of the tolls that will affect me though I'll probably sit tight and use cash until they work out the inevitable deal.. but I've already expressed my displeasure to both companies concerned so it's not just whinging on boards I'm doing either 0 -
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I've had a good think about the post-pay v pre-pay argument.
I agree that I like post-pay, but my life seems to be one big example of pre-pay, things that we all use in life, you need to get away from thinking in mobile network terms.
I have a pre-paid credit card for travel (it's safer than cash and has a set limit), I have to pre-pay for car hire, give them a deposit for fuel I might never use, and a pre-authorise a chunk on my credit card to cover excess insurance. All these are paid up front. Holidays, flights, insurance. No bill at the end of usage, pay as you go, or pay up front.
The main aspects of life where I post-pay are gas, electric, Virgin and mobile phone. Almost everything else I can think of is pre-pay or immediate purchase. Clothes, toiletries, food, cinema, concerts, car parks, buying a car, basically shopping and purchasing everything outside of a utility is not a post paid bill that I can think of? The majority of life seems to be pre-paid or immediate purchase.
Though I do post-pay in a restaurant! But I have to pay before I leave, I don't get to go twice a day for a month and pay at the end of it.
So if being treated like an adult requires me to only pay at the end of the month as a "I'll only post-pay customer", I need a lot of things to change in my life and the world needs to extend me credit to make this change a reality.
My last thought on this, the mobile phone example that's being used, if the operator that you are currently with told you that they were going to continue to charge you the same monthly amount, that you would still be able to post-pay, but that 30% of Ireland's mobile network would not work for you at the end of August and that you have to pre-pay in cash for that 30% to a third party anytime you were in that 30% zone, would you seriously not switch networks if the only option to get 100% coverage meant you had to pay by direct debit once per month and maintain a €6 balance in your account. (that's the Easytrip low balance, €6...)
When there's talk of being treated like a grown up, that example of logic would seem to not be in line with managing my life as a grown up.
The bottom line really is that I want a tag that works at all the plazas that I pay for the service for. I don't want a tag that costs me the same amount but that only works at 70% of the plazas, I wouldn't pay for 70% of the TV stations for the same price as 100%, 70% of the mobile network etc. Where else would anyone accept that? Just to keep a post-paid option when you actually pre-pay and upfront pay 99% of the rest of your life! (I checked my bank statement, that's the truth, cash and instant debit, I have FOUR post paid transactions in a month, and two of those on DD...)
So, I like post-pay on my mobile phone because I think that it offers me the best value, but if pre-pay was cheaper or offering a better service or just suited me better, I'd switch and DD in a heartbeat.
Post-paid is an option in a handful of places, that's not exactly a life choice.0 -
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