Twitter permanently suspends Milo Yiannopoulos over row with 'Ghostbusters' actress

AllGunsBlazing · 22-07-2016 01:37AM

Seems to have carved out a niche for himself as a professional troll. He's basically the internet age equivalent of an 80's shock jock. Would be very wary of banning him from social media though. I'm not a Twitter user but I assume there is an ignore feature?

gormdubhgorm · 22-07-2016 01:59AM

Did she not know who to call?

RedemptionZ · 22-07-2016 02:21AM

Surely they've just created a martyr here? I mean first of all, the guy does seem to be a troll of sorts, but where has he broken the rules? His followers may have but he hasn't to the best of my knowledge. There are countless tweets about people wanting to kill police on twitter and these users are not banned. It just sends a terrible message that 'we have picked a side and will favour that'. By banning him for what seems to be the actions of his fans they've just made themselves look very partial to one side, that side being the liberal left. It's very dangerous imo and it's going to alienate a lot of twitter users I would guess. There are people now coming out and saying twitter needs more moderation and in other words more censorship. But who decides what needs to be moderated and what doesn't? It's impossible to be impartial. I mean there's twitter lynchmobs every week and normally they're leaning to one side of the fence, why aren't they dealt with in the same way?

The guy might be a complete gob****e, I don't follow him nor really know who he is. However I don't believe he incites violence. I believe he has not threatened anyone. I know so many gob****es on both sides of the political spectrum and they're still allowed have their accounts. Unless you are threatening someone or doing something illegal I don't think it's fair to silence people just because you don't like what they're saying.

RayM · 22-07-2016 03:06AM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

I'm not a Twitter user but I assume there is an ignore feature?

There's a 'Block' and a 'mute' feature. A significant difference between the two is that someone can see if they're blocked, but they have no way of knowing if you've muted them. I always mute people instead of blocking them. That way I don't have to see whatever boring drivel they're tweeting, and they can continue to waste their own time directing it at me.

Skullface McGubbin · 22-07-2016 02:46PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I can see how Milo gets up the back of certain people. He's, loud, cocky, camp, abrasive.

I've been aware of him for a couple of years at this stage. If you can get past the above traits I mentioned he's actually a fascinating guy to listen to, he's not afraid to speak inconvenient truths and apply facts and logic when critiquing some of the crazy 'SJW' culture (He has expression that "sunlight is the best disinfectant"). He doesn't run away from his political opponents, he challenges them to debate him.

He has faced down incredible hatred on his recent Speaking Tour of US college campuses. Regressive leftists have tried every trick in the book to get him shut down.

Give one of his talks a chance, even if you don't agree with his politics he's a chap who is worth listening to.

In case you haven't noticed, regressive leftists are a majority on this site. So no matter how much you point out any of the good points Milo makes, they'll be having none of it.

Also, the amount of people on this thread using the term "white male" as if it's a bad thing reminds me of this video.

22-07-2016 02:49PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Surely they've just created a martyr here? I mean first of all, the guy does seem to be a troll of sorts, but where has he broken the rules? His followers may have but he hasn't to the best of my knowledge. There are countless tweets about people wanting to kill police on twitter and these users are not banned. It just sends a terrible message that 'we have picked a side and will favour that'. By banning him for what seems to be the actions of his fans they've just made themselves look very partial to one side, that side being the liberal left. It's very dangerous imo and it's going to alienate a lot of twitter users I would guess. There are people now coming out and saying twitter needs more moderation and in other words more censorship. But who decides what needs to be moderated and what doesn't? It's impossible to be impartial. I mean there's twitter lynchmobs every week and normally they're leaning to one side of the fence, why aren't they dealt with in the same way?

The guy might be a complete gob****e, I don't follow him nor really know who he is. However I don't believe he incites violence. I believe he has not threatened anyone. I know so many gob****es on both sides of the political spectrum and they're still allowed have their accounts. Unless you are threatening someone or doing something illegal I don't think it's fair to silence people just because you don't like what they're saying.

His fans mock up some fake Leslie Jones tweets and he retweets them, knowing exactly what his fans are gonna do in response. He's deliberately riling his fans up and unleashing them on someone whose biggest crime was being in a movie he didn't like.

Naturally since he's a political and divisive character, no matter what he does, there will be a lot of people saying "it's only because he's a conservative." Bollocks. Plenty of conservatives on twitter posting all sorts of terrible **** all the time and twitter doesn't do a goddamn thing. If he didn't so blatantly go after someone like that he'd still be on twitter.

Outlaw Pete · 22-07-2016 03:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

His fans mock up some fake Leslie Jones tweets and he retweets them, knowing exactly what his fans are gonna do in response.

Yeah, laugh at her, as she had been doing at them.

He's deliberately riling his fans up and unleashing them on someone whose biggest crime was being in a movie he didn't like.

No, she was the one that 'unleashed' her fans on people knowing what they would do..

https://twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/755218642674020352

Do you think she should be suspended?

Naturally since he's a political and divisive character, no matter what he does, there will be a lot of people saying "it's only because he's a conservative" Bollocks. Plenty of conservatives on twitter posting all sorts of terrible **** all the time and twitter doesn't do a goddamn thing. If he didn't so blatantly go after someone like that he'd still be on twitter.

What you're failing to grasp is that what he did pales in comparison to what goes on on Twitter on a daily basis. They have often reviewed very high profile abuse directed at some of their members and deemed it perfectly fine. Do you think if a white celeb had said these things about Michelle Obama (for example) that Jack & Co wouldn't have had a problem with it?? Like fcuk they wouldn't.

RWCNT · 22-07-2016 03:09PM

Skullface McGubbin wrote: »

In case you haven't noticed, regressive leftists are a majority on this site. So no matter how much you point out any of the good points Milo makes, they'll be having none of it.

Also, the amount of people on this thread using the term "white male" as if it's a bad thing reminds me of this video.

I searched "white male" in this thread and came up with 2 results, 1 of which was your post. Were you just looking for an excuse to post your funny video?

A Little Pony · 22-07-2016 03:20PM

Since he is a gay guy his opponents can't play the straight card on him and have to resort to other tactics.

A Little Pony · 22-07-2016 03:22PM

Its well established that Sony after seeing the reactions to the trailer knew the movie would tank by reviewers among the fan base and so decided to use the feminist card and play on that agenda. The whole movie is one big feminist finger jerk.

ancapailldorcha · 22-07-2016 03:23PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Its well established that Sony after seeing the reactions to the trailer knew the movie would tank by reviewers among the fan base and so decided to use the feminist card and play on that agenda. The whole movie is one big feminist finger jerk.

Where has this been "well established?"

kunst nugget · 22-07-2016 03:26PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Its well established that Sony after seeing the reactions to the trailer knew the movie would tank by reviewers among the fan base and so decided to use the feminist card and play on that agenda. The whole movie is one big feminist finger jerk.

There was people giving out about the feminists destroying their childhoods since the cast was revealed, long before the trailer came out.

22-07-2016 03:27PM

Skullface McGubbin wrote: »

Oh God I laughed so hard. The full unedited video is even more shrill & hysterical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU3vcvGpALQ

andekwarhola · 22-07-2016 03:39PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

There was people giving out about the feminists destroying their childhoods since the cast was revealed, long before the trailer came out.

Not sure if they're aware they can just ignore the movie and stick with the original.

Result: childhood saved from ruin.

A Little Pony · 22-07-2016 03:51PM

andekwarhola wrote: »

kunst nugget wrote: »

There was people giving out about the feminists destroying their childhoods since the cast was revealed, long before the trailer came out.

Not sure if they're aware they can just ignore the movie and stick with the original.

Result: childhood saved from ruin.

Really?...

Hope suicide squad makes up for this terrible movie. I found myself checking my mobile phone out when it was on.

conorhal · 22-07-2016 03:57PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

There was people giving out about the feminists destroying their childhoods since the cast was revealed, long before the trailer came out.

I wish they'd blame the right people. It was Sony that ruined their childhood.

BTW, Sony also gave us the Robocop reboot, that last Spiderman reboot and that brutal Total Recall reboot. Now they intend to drop a further duce on my childhood with a Labyrinth reboot. I don't think I've seen a company with a worse track record for ploughing iconic properties and characters into the dirt through sheer incompetence.

FA Hayek · 22-07-2016 05:10PM

Milo is a reaction from what has gone before us, a bit like Trump. Both would have been unthinkable 10 years ago. However, there are certain elements in society that want to push the boundaries of free speech and classical liberal morals to the back seat and subject us all to new dogmas and ideologies without even questioning it. Yes, I am looking at you the regressive left.

It has been said that some how he was responsible for being some sort of puppet master or director of abuse towards this actor. Yet, no one, not even Twitter has released this proof. It is clear he is a scape goat. It's cut and dry, unless some proof that he was working behind the scenes emerges. The best we have is 'rumours'. Frankly I call bull****e on that. What ever happened to evidence based reasoning. Most of you are atheists, yet you still make choices with your heart. Practice.what.you.preach.

Dave Rubin makes an interesting point. If an Ayatollah can make genocidal remarks on twitter about the Jews, then why isn't he banned?
If Erdogan, who is right now before our eyes is dismantling democracy in one of the last secular Muslim countries can remain on twitter, does Milo deserve to be banned for calling an actor fat and ugly and bad at their job? Who is an actual bigger threat to the world here?

Twitter is a private company and can do what ever they wish (unlike christian bakeries it seems) however, to pretend (keyword) to be the medium of free speech, information and debate like Twitter has, but to then ban a leading conservative figure just shows us that bias is not some imaginary thing 'basement dwellers' make up in their head.

Before you post some witty rebuttal to this post, ask yourself. Why are there so many angry young men. Perhaps they are sick of being demonised as being inherently evil by would be enlightened people? It is better to understand your opponent then to keep shovelling ****e.

Milo is not infallible by a long shot but is a somewhat necessary antidote to some of the nonsense that has emerged over the past few years from the left.

Venom · 22-07-2016 05:10PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

There was people giving out about the feminists destroying their childhoods since the cast was revealed, long before the trailer came out.

I'm not so sure its just that simple. It took a long time for the first trailer to come out almost like Sony knew the movie wasn't going to be good and delayed it as much as possible. The majority of the anti feminist backlash seemed to be generated by the director and Sony themselves which they also tried to pull with the last Fantastic 4 movie, another awful Sony movie. How stupid do you have to be to go and insult the fanbase of your franchise and wonder when things go pear shaped!

Even when the trailer did come out the majority of negative comments I saw on Youtube were more down to how unfunny, downright awful looking and ****ty the CGI ghosts looked. Transformers gets tons of grief over ruining childhoods as did the Star Wars prequels. Then add in the love media outlets have for any bit of dirt or scandal and of course they are going to run wild with it.

Ghostbusters is just a crappy and unneeded reboot just like Robocop, Total Recall and many others were and suffered because of it.

Mardy Bum · 22-07-2016 10:29PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

Before you post some witty rebuttal to this post, ask yourself. Why are there so many angry young men. Perhaps they are sick of being demonised as being inherently evil by would be enlightened people? It is better to understand your opponent then to keep shovelling ****e.

Milo is not infallible by a long shot but is a somewhat necessary antidote to some of the nonsense that has emerged over the past few years from the left.

I don't know many angry young men. Low self esteem and self loathing would be factors in that though and an insecurity in their own masculinity could also be an issue. Lack of opportunities, lack of advanced education, disconnected childhood, abusive childhood, social alienation, parental issues, depression etc also may cause this.

How about we stop trying to blame everyone else for our own insecurities? How about we attempt an honest examination of self rather than blaming others.

Posting a video of a hysterical woman doesn't prove your point btw.

Elliott S · 22-07-2016 10:54PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

It's cut and dry, unless some proof that he was working behind the scenes emerges

Maybe there is concrete behind the scenes stuff. Twitter wouldn't have to make that public, I don't think.

Hologram · 23-07-2016 12:15AM

I think an all-female remake of Ghostbusters is a cringey, pandering, tokenistic idea (like quotas it just seems more divisive than inclusive)... and a remake of Ghostbusters full stop is pointless (like all those remakes - however, nobody's childhood is ruined by any of them; the originals are still available, and people's childhoods are as they left them

) so I just won't watch it or deal with it in any way.

Perhaps it depends on what you are being exposed to online but I have never read anyone state that those who have a problem with this remake are misogynists? Not saying it hasn't happened, I have just never heard of it. What I hear more of is complaints about the film (whether just that it's crap, another pointless remake, or a small number of incidents of people just complaining about it being pandering to feminism).

timthumbni · 23-07-2016 12:32AM

Watched it recently with my kids. It was quite fun.

I really don't know what the craic is with fanboys of the original. The new one was funnier and more exciting. As it should be with modern effects. The girl thing didn't worry me at all and I question what the fanboys want.

Ghostbusters is and always was a 12a movie or for young kids. If it doesn't feel as good as when you were younger for the original, that's because you are old or older. Grow up. People have too much time on their hands now.

My kids loved it. I thought it was good (for a young kids film)

Anyone giving abuse to the black girl can feck right off. Just because they are old nerds is no relevance to the rest of us. Have they watched the original gb recently? It doesn't exactly stand the test of time. One of the better remakes I've watched recently. Not my cup of tea but whatever.

FA Hayek · 23-07-2016 11:14AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

I don't know many angry young men. Low self esteem and self loathing would be factors in that though and an insecurity in their own masculinity could also be an issue. Lack of opportunities, lack of advanced education, disconnected childhood, abusive childhood, social alienation, parental issues, depression etc also may cause this.

Perhaps we should address these, rather then call them all basement dwellers and sexist woman hating pigs?

Mardy Bum wrote: »

How about we stop trying to blame everyone else for our own insecurities? How about we attempt an honest examination of self rather than blaming others.

Agree. I look forward to a time where a person like Milo is not needed. However, and I am not sure if this is the correct wording but much of this started with the progressives which we now term the regressive left. They have to take a long hard look at themselves.

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Posting a video of a hysterical woman doesn't prove your point btw.

What hysterical woman? Unless you are calling Dave Rubin a hysterical woman which is madly homophobic by the way as he is gay himself.

Mardy Bum · 23-07-2016 11:53AM

FA Hayek wrote: »

Perhaps we should address these, rather then call them all basement dwellers and sexist woman hating pigs?

Agree. I look forward to a time where a person like Milo is not needed. However, and I am not sure if this is the correct wording but much of this started with the progressives which we now term the regressive left. They have to take a long hard look at themselves.

What hysterical woman? Unless you are calling Dave Rubin a hysterical woman which is madly homophobic by the way as he is gay himself.

I could only see the image cover on the video which was a woman from a viral scene.

Milo cares but for his own pocket and will turn to whatever is convenient and controversial he is no answer to the pressing issues I mentioned and none of the problems I mentioned were concocted by the regressive left. The RLs biggest issue is their distaste for global cosmopolitanism.

FA Hayek · 23-07-2016 12:38PM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

I could only see the image cover on the video which was a woman from a viral scene.

So you didn't even watch the video but still commented on as if you did watch it. Right.... This is the exact problem we are describing right here. People just want to correct, regardless and don't listen.

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Milo cares but for his own pocket and will turn to whatever is convenient and controversial he is no answer to the pressing issues I mentioned and none of the problems I mentioned were concocted by the regressive left.

The regressive left have certainly exasperated the situation and have not helped with their weirdly ridiculous causes, lies and claims. Milo is a reaction to that.

Mardy Bum wrote: »

The RLs biggest issue is their distaste for global cosmopolitanism.

I have no idea what you mean by this.

osmiumartist · 23-07-2016 12:47PM

Elliott S wrote: »

Maybe there is concrete behind the scenes stuff. Twitter wouldn't have to make that public, I don't think.

As I said earlier, freedom cuts both ways. Twitter could have decided they don't like his haircut and banned him, they're a private company. It isn't evidence of anything except he hits their business model really.

osmiumartist · 23-07-2016 12:49PM

timthumbni wrote: »

The new one was funnier and more exciting. As it should be with modern effects.

If you think a movie has to be funnier because it has better special effects then excuse me if I don't take your opinion seriously.

osmiumartist · 23-07-2016 12:51PM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Milo cares but for his own pocket

Unlike, say, Sony and Twitter?

silverharp · 23-07-2016 01:07PM

A bit of hypocrisy alright there are any number of BLM twatter accounts calling for cops to be killed or Arabic ISIS accounts spouting all kinds of incitements yet Milo is taken off for being critical of an actress.

PopePalpatine · 23-07-2016 01:10PM

silverharp wrote: »

A bit of hypocrisy alright there are any number of BLM twatter accounts calling for cops to be killed or Arabic ISIS accounts spouting all kinds of incitements yet Milo is taken off for being critical of an actress.

Yep, keep parroting the Breitshart line there. Absolutely nothing to do with setting his "alt-"/far-right fanboys on her.

Twitter permanently suspends Milo Yiannopoulos over row with 'Ghostbusters' actress

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