Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

18-07-2016 10:14PM

greendom wrote: »

How long does Bellerin have left on his contract.
Pep wants him apparently!

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150717/bellerin-signs-new-long-term-contract

It was a long term one then.
Bound to have 2-3 years remaining

emergingstar · 18-07-2016 10:20PM

The younglad from Bolton passed a medical by all accounts

j14 · 18-07-2016 11:03PM

emergingstar wrote:

The younglad from Bolton passed a medical by all accounts

I'm wondering if we are thinking of him for the first team or for a stint in the reserves for a while?

Gringo180 · 18-07-2016 11:14PM

emergingstar wrote: »

The younglad from Bolton passed a medical by all accounts

Thats 3 of our 3 new signings completed that Wenger was on about :pac:

18-07-2016 11:20PM

emergingstar wrote: »

The younglad from Bolton passed a medical by all accounts

Jeez between him and the Japanese striker, people wil start to accuse us of trying to buy the league if we're not careful :pac:

j14 · 18-07-2016 11:30PM

Put away the cheque book Wenger our signings are sorted. We have our new CB (Holding), our cover for Coq (Xhaka) and our new striker (Asano)...roll on the new season.

smilerf · 19-07-2016 09:28AM

j14 wrote: »

Put away the cheque book Wenger our signings are sorted. We have our new CB (Holding), our cover for Coq (Xhaka) and our new striker (Asano)...roll on the new season.

Xhaka is much better than Coq and besides Coq for me doesn't get in to our starting 11 everyone fit

Ken Shamrock · 19-07-2016 10:44AM

smilerf wrote: »

Xhaka is much better than Coq and besides Coq for me doesn't get in to our starting 11 everyone fit

I'm pretty sure he was taking the piss?

L'prof · 19-07-2016 11:50AM

greendom wrote: »

How long does Bellerin have left on his contract.
Pep wants him apparently!

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150717/bellerin-signs-new-long-term-contract

It was a long term one then.
Bound to have 2-3 years remaining

Transfermarkt says 3 years left

salmocab · 19-07-2016 12:34PM

Does anyone else feel we will be selling a CM this year with Ramsey, Ozil, Xhaka, Coq, Cazorla, Elenny and Wilshere playing for 3 spots and possibly one moving out to the right? Id say come Christmas we may be looking at someone looking for a move.

DeclanRe · 19-07-2016 12:43PM

salmocab wrote: »

Does anyone else feel we will be selling a CM this year with Ramsey, Ozil, Xhaka, Coq, Cazorla, Elenny and Wilshere playing for 3 spots and possibly one moving out to the right? Id say come Christmas we may be looking at someone looking for a move.

With the amount of injuries we get, i think that's probably the right amount of midfielders we need.

gosplan · 19-07-2016 03:12PM

salmocab wrote: »

Does anyone else feel we will be selling a CM this year with Ramsey, Ozil, Xhaka, Coq, Cazorla, Elenny and Wilshere playing for 3 spots and possibly one moving out to the right? Id say come Christmas we may be looking at someone looking for a move.

There's a few provisos with that though.

1: Wilshire doesn't count in squad planning. Have to prepare without him.

2: santi 31 and Xhaka in first season

3: Wilshire and Rambo more used as wide players in recent years.

salmocab · 19-07-2016 05:26PM

gosplan wrote: »

There's a few provisos with that though.

1: Wilshire doesn't count in squad planning. Have to prepare without him.

2: santi 31 and Xhaka in first season

3: Wilshire and Rambo more used as wide players in recent years.

well yeah thats why I was thinking maybe by christmas when the pecking order has been established if there isn't too many long term injuries that someone might think its time to go.
Id love to see a right winger come in to balance out Sanchez and maybe move Walcott or Ox on

smilerf · 19-07-2016 05:36PM

salmocab wrote: »

well yeah thats why I was thinking maybe by christmas when the pecking order has been established if there isn't too many long term injuries that someone might think its time to go.
Id love to see a right winger come in to balance out Sanchez and maybe move Walcott or Ox on

I'd love to see ox knuckle down and quit the pranks and the selfie aether selfie

19-07-2016 07:20PM

smilerf wrote: »

I'd love to see ox knuckle down and quit the pranks and the selfie aether selfie

I think people give the ox too much grief over nothing. He must train hard and impress the boss, based on him persisting with him when he seemed hopelessly out of form.

I follow the Ox on twitter, and don't see him posting loads of selfies etc?

I would like to see him do well. He has the physical attributes to be lethal. He's one of only a few players we have who can beat a man.

domrush · 19-07-2016 07:24PM

Basil3 wrote: »

I think people give the ox too much grief over nothing. He must train hard and impress the boss, based on him persisting with him when he seemed hopelessly out of form.

I follow the Ox on twitter, and don't see him posting loads of selfies etc?

I would like to see him do well. He has the physical attributes to be lethal. He's one of only a few players we have who can beat a man.

Find it hard to warm to him when hes showed almost no technical improvement over four or so years despite being given chance after chance. I agree he has buckets of ability and a rare ability to take a man on and finish but his decision making is piss poor. Campbell currently a better player IMO.

Bobby Baccala · 19-07-2016 08:06PM

domrush wrote: »

Find it hard to warm to him when hes showed almost no technical improvement over four or so years despite being given chance after chance. I agree he has buckets of ability and a rare ability to take a man on and finish but his decision making is piss poor. Campbell currently a better player IMO.

Since when can the Ox finish? What's he scored like 8 goals for Arsenal? And he's made probably 100+ appearances.

Not good enough for Arsenal and hasn't shown any signs of improvement imo.

domrush · 19-07-2016 08:12PM

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Since when can the Ox finish? What's he scored like 8 goals for Arsenal? And he's made probably 100+ appearances.

Not good enough for Arsenal and hasn't shown any signs of improvement imo.

Yeah maybe you're right actually

For some reason I had it in my head he had a rocket of a shot :pac:

wonga77 · 19-07-2016 09:04PM

Ox is very talented no doubt but hasnt really progressed as I thought he would, He's very strong and well able to take on a man but has zero end product. He's had more than enough chances imo and this should be sink or swim season for him

emmetlego · 19-07-2016 09:27PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Ox is very talented no doubt but hasnt really progressed as I thought he would, He's very strong and well able to take on a man but has zero end product. He's had more than enough chances imo and this should be sink or swim season for him

I'd agree, I'd give him one more season. Maybe there's more to this than meets the eye. He has (Arsenal qualities) HUGE POTENTIAL!... You can almost hear Wenger say it!

Theo can f**k off though. I don't mind a fella going through poor form, if he works hard to retrieve his form, but Theo has been infuriating for so long now. The end for me was when he jumped out of that tackle. Be delighted to see him out the door, with a suitable replacement of course! One of those yellow men often seen on recently mopped floors, would be sufficient to replace Theo, and I'm sure would cost less than 120k per week!

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-07-2016 09:39PM

Ox is only a passenger in the Arsenal team. Wenger needs to get tough with him and the likes of wilshere, Walcott, Gibbs etc. and by tough I mean sell them.

Passengers.

emmetlego · 19-07-2016 09:53PM

The Honey Monster wrote: »

Ox is only a passenger in the Arsenal team. Wenger needs to get tough with him and the likes of wilshere, Walcott, Gibbs etc. and by tough I mean sell them.

Passengers.

I know where you're coming from, but Wilshere? That's very much a personal opinion, pretty sure if I did a poll here, the majority would want to keep Jack. Probably most would want an upgrade on Gibbs and maybe even OX, and defo Theo, but Jack? Not so sure!

wonga77 · 19-07-2016 09:57PM

emmetlego wrote: »

I'd agree, I'd give him one more season. Maybe there's more to this than meets the eye. He has (Arsenal qualities) HUGE POTENTIAL!... You can almost hear Wenger say it!

Theo can f**k off though. I don't mind a fella going through poor form, if he works hard to retrieve his form, but Theo has been infuriating for so long now. The end for me was when he jumped out of that tackle. Be delighted to see him out the door, with a suitable replacement of course! One of those yellow men often seen on recently mopped floors, would be sufficient to replace Theo, and I'm sure would cost less than 120k per week!

Just on this point, and I dont mean to harp on about it, but I cant for the life of me understand why Wenger keeps giving Walcott so many chances and yet shuns a player like Campbell, who would never leap out of a tackle or go hiding in games the way Theo does. As frustrating as Ox is, at least he tries or appears to make an effort. Walcott only seems to be of any use when we have a 2 goal lead or have the game won

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-07-2016 10:02PM

emmetlego wrote: »

I know where you're coming from, but Wilshere? That's very much a personal opinion, pretty sure if I did a poll here, the majority would want to keep Jack. Probably most would want an upgrade on Gibbs and maybe even OX, and defo Theo, but Jack? Not so sure!

I've thought about it, I like Jack, he's a good player but he will only ever be injured or coming back from an injury, that's not good enough for me. His ankles are made out of glass, it's through no fault of his own.

emmetlego · 19-07-2016 10:05PM

The Honey Monster wrote: »

I've thought about it, I like Jack, he's a good player but he will only ever be injured or coming back from an injury, that's not good enough for me. His ankles are made out of glass, it's through no fault of his own.

I agree about his injury prone record, it's a no brainer.... But he's hardly Diaby! And when he is fit and flying, he's a fu****g class player. And still quite young too. So I'll defo agree to disagree with you and Jack....

Oh, I forgot to mention, he knows all the anti-Spurs songs too! That alone makes him a keeper! :-)

19-07-2016 10:09PM

Ox is useless. We're only wasting our time with him. His body language in some games last season was of a man who just couldn't be bothered. We need lads to step up to the plate from now on. Wenger needs to give these soft boys the push and bring in players who are prepared to fight for the cause.

gosplan · 19-07-2016 10:16PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Just on this point, and I dont mean to harp on about it, but I cant for the life of me understand why Wenger keeps giving Walcott so many chances and yet shuns a player like Campbell, who would never leap out of a tackle or go hiding in games the way Theo does. As frustrating as Ox is, at least he tries or appears to make an effort. Walcott only seems to be of any use when we have a 2 goal lead or have the game won

Stubbornness.

But Walcott has also been a sneaky fecker. He has put in good performances and looked the part on occasion, especially when his contract discussions are coming around.

Gringo180 · 19-07-2016 11:14PM

Oxlade Chamberlain has 7 goals in 100 games for Arsenal. Laurent Koscielny has 15 goals in 180 games. What a damning stat that is. Goes to show how far we have fallen when we once had the likes of Overmars, Pires and Ljungberg as wingers, who were a goal every 3 games players. Even the likes of Hleb and Nasri where much better players than the likes of Ox and Walcott. Although I would hold onto Gibbs as your not going to get a much better back up then him plus he is versatile.

WoollyRedHat · 19-07-2016 11:22PM

All who chastise and crticise Ox forget he's still young and genuinely loves Arsenal. He deserves another year. The problem with Theo is that he has shown a lack of passion and cowardness even at times...I can understand the frustration.

The very same people who cry out to get rid of what are squad players will later on becry the lack of squad depth...

20-07-2016 01:04AM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

All who chastise and crticise Ox forget he's still young and genuinely loves Arsenal. He deserves another year. The problem with Theo is that he has shown a lack of passion and cowardness even at times...I can understand the frustration.

The very same people who cry out to get rid of what are squad players will later on becry the lack of squad depth...

There is no point having useless unreliable players on the bench either. Its a squad game. Any sub coming on should be jumping out of his skin to do a job.

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