Tour de France Stage 12: Montpellier-Mt.Ventoux 184KM Spoilers

ThisRegard · 14-07-2016 05:02PM

So they arbitrarily picked some random spot further down the road from where the incident happened and said this is now the finish?

Pudsy33 · 14-07-2016 05:02PM

The incident was joke shop. The decision a bottle job. Everything about this sucks .

afatbollix · 14-07-2016 05:02PM

Froome back in the lead.

Updated leader board.

Mint Sauce · 14-07-2016 05:02PM

Just watched the last few km on +1. WTF!

Will read the last few pages to get some sort of sence of whats happening. Although just did see Richie Port crash into the back of a camera bike.

Brian? · 14-07-2016 05:03PM

If that's verified it's an absolute joke. Completely wrong. Neutralise the whole climb or nothing to give Froome a time gap is a joke.

Burial. · 14-07-2016 05:03PM

If Froome gets away without any penalty for running then the Tour is hitting a new low tbh

JK.BMC · 14-07-2016 05:04PM

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Can't quite understand why Froome wasn't able to ride the neutral service bike. Would be interesting to see in more detail.

I mean, if Jens can do it, surely the greatest cyclist in the world can do it.

Pedal/Cleat problem maybe????

68 lost souls · 14-07-2016 05:04PM

joey100 wrote: »

Why would he have so much trouble on the neutral service bike? He really seemed all over the place on it, could barely get it moving. I'd have thought it would have been kept in good working order. I get that it wouldn't be set up ideally for him,but it was like night and day between the neutral service and his own bike.

GCN just said that at the Giro the lead Mavic neutral car had a bike setup with the exact Red Jersey setup. But also Froome uses speedplay and the other bikes could be setup with Look or Shimano?

RobertKK · 14-07-2016 05:04PM

When asked 'why do you watch cycling?'

I will say for the scenery...

Today when you think things couldn't become worse or more farcical they manage to make it that.

Brian? · 14-07-2016 05:06PM

68 lost souls wrote: »

GCN just said that at the Giro the lead Mavic neutral car had a bike setup with the exact Red Jersey setup. But also Froome uses speedplay and the other bikes could be setup with Look or Shimano?

The neutral bikes used to be set up with cages on flats, not clipless pedals. Not sure if that's changed.

Petacchi won a Giro stage on one. Google it.

irishrover99 · 14-07-2016 05:06PM

Cycling reminds me of F1 before Senna died. Amateur organisation

couerdelion · 14-07-2016 05:08PM

Riders taken out in crash in last few km so given same time as group they were with (Mollema). Its a little arbitrary but can understand the logic behind it so sounds fair enough to me.

14-07-2016 05:09PM

Bulls*#t decision. Stuff happens in cycling its part of it and it's why I sat down to watch that stage today on the off chance someone or something would stop Froomes march to another overall win. What's the point if everything is neutralised to avoid any controversy.
Something has to be done with the idiots in the crowd though.

68 lost souls · 14-07-2016 05:09PM

couerdelion wrote: »

Riders taken out in crash in last few km so given same time as group they were with (Mollema). Its a little arbitrary but can understand the logic behind it so sounds fair enough to me.

Ok on a flat stage where the 3km rule applies but it doesnt apply to mountain finishes so interesting to see

RobertKK · 14-07-2016 05:10PM

Maybe the organisers think if they didn't neutalise the race before the incident, then people would just block racers to give their favourite an advantage.
Whatever the case, it is a huge mess and while Chris Froome ends up maintaining the yellow jersey, I think it done him absolutely no favours.

Yarghhh · 14-07-2016 05:10PM

I don't understand the outcry in this thread for the TdF result to not reflect the racing of Froome and the rest today but some crash that reflects bad race organisation. Correct decision that reflects the race the cyclists did today.

couerdelion · 14-07-2016 05:10PM

poolboy wrote: »

Something has to be done with the idiots in the crowd though.

Maybe the decision makes were looking at it from that point of view. If Froome was punished because the crowd influenced the result then what would stop someone from deliberately doing it if it's classed as just a racing incident?

07Lapierre · 14-07-2016 05:11PM

tommy_tucker wrote: »

he was penalized for running he lost a heap of time FFS!!!! Running is slower that cycling no one is going to do it out of choice, can you not understand that? How can you be so dense

Calm down there tommy!...:p

68 lost souls · 14-07-2016 05:11PM

Brian? wrote: »

The neutral bikes used to be set up with cages on flats, not clipless pedals. Not sure if that's changed.

Petacchi won a Giro stage on one. Google it.

http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/07/05/tdf2015-tech-whats-on-those-mavic-neutral-support-bikes/

Mavic clipless pedals apparentlyor at least last year

couerdelion · 14-07-2016 05:12PM

From the Guardian... "Keith Holmes says: “French TV has just read a rule from the rule book that says a rider can be ‘repêché’, his time can be changed in his favour in case of an ‘encombrement de route’ which is basically a jam on the roads. Could this apply?”

brianomc · 14-07-2016 05:14PM

Did they already set a precedence for accidents outside the norm during this years TDF with the flamme rouge coming down and using times from the 3km or 5km mark? They could have just said "tough luck lads".

What incidents count as worthy of doing this though?

Pudsy33 · 14-07-2016 05:16PM

Burial. wrote: »

If Froome gets away without any penalty for running then the Tour is hitting a new low tbh

There is no rule to stop you running. You have to cross the line with a bike, that's it

cunavalos · 14-07-2016 05:23PM

07Lapierre wrote: »

Well to be fair... we haven't seen the bike..."Totalled" could be an exaggeration.

Pic of the damage to the bike

monkeyman · 14-07-2016 05:23PM

I'm sure there will be a few objections from other teams / Quintana / etc.

Enduro · 14-07-2016 05:24PM

Froome's bike was run over by a following moto, apparently...

"What a final. In the final kilometre, the moto braked suddenly in front of us, and Richie, Bauke and I crashed into it, and then the moto behind me ran over my bike and broke it," Froome said.

Mint Sauce · 14-07-2016 05:24PM

So kinda caught up now. Had the original winner crossed the line before or after Porte, Froome, et al, crash. Has that been taken into consideration for the revised times?

couerdelion · 14-07-2016 05:28PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

So kinda caught up now. Had the original winner crossed the line before or after Porte, Froome, et al, crash. Has that been taken into consideration for the revised times?

They had finished before the crash and it isnt being taken into account afaik

dastardly00 · 14-07-2016 05:28PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

So kinda caught up now. Had the original winner crossed the line before or after Porte, Froome, et al, crash. Has that been taken into consideration for the revised times?

De Gendt crossed the line approx. three minutes before Froome et al. crashed.

gordongekko · 14-07-2016 05:30PM

couerdelion wrote: »

They had finished before the crash and it isnt being taken into account afaik

Porte and froome have been given the same time as Mollema

Tigerandahalf · 14-07-2016 05:38PM

gordongekko wrote: »

Porte and froome have been given the same time as Mollema

I think that is the fairest result. As long as Quintana/Yates/others didn't get an advantage because of the slowdown with the crash.

It is crazy with the fans so close. Barriers will have to be put up but they would need to be fairly steady. Otherwise you could get a crush of people pushing one over.

Even the big waving flags are dangerous.

What a mess it would be if Froome or soneone had been injured by the crash and it hampering their prospects after for the rest of the stages.

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Tour de France Stage 12: Montpellier-Mt.Ventoux 184KM Spoilers