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Tour de France Stage 12: Montpellier-Mt.Ventoux 184KM **Spoilers**

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  • #182
    Moflojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭Moflojo


    Looking at the replay I don't think Froome was able to clip in on the Mavic neutral bike? His feet look to be at an odd angle to the pedals and he had no power, suggesting he wasn't able to pull up on the pedals.


  • #183
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    This the special edition Xlite F8? totalled after a crash, while going upHill??

    The one with a tiny weight limit. Must be fairly brittle


  • #184
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,616 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    terrydel wrote: »
    Should have sucked it up and had them cycle to the top, not as if they then had to descend.

    Are you for real?


  • #185
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    kenmc wrote: »
    don't see why he couldn't have taken his bike with him instead of littering the place. his team car had to stop to collect it anyway, causing chaos anyway. then he would have completed the distance with his bike.

    He did for a while and then realized how stupid that was


  • #186
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    godtabh wrote: »
    The one with a tiny weight limit. Must be fairly brittle

    Well to be fair... we haven't seen the bike..."Totalled" could be an exaggeration.


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  • #187
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    joey100 wrote: »
    Why would he have so much trouble on the neutral service bike? He really seemed all over the place on it, could barely get it moving. I'd have thought it would have been kept in good working order. I get that it wouldn't be set up ideally for him,but it was like night and day between the neutral service and his own bike.

    Couldn't find the clutch!


  • #188
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Froome in 6th, Martin in 9th. Yates in 1st.


  • #189
    death1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭death1234567


    kenmc wrote: »
    don't see why he couldn't have taken his bike with him instead of littering the place. his team car had to stop to collect it anyway, causing chaos anyway. then he would have completed the distance with his bike.
    Yeah your right. Brailsford would have pulled the car over to collect the smashed carbon fibre pinarello that was a write off anyway and left Froome standing at the side of the road holding his lad.

    Froome ran ahead of the chaos and then hoped that the neutral service car could get up to him (or possibly that there would be barriers up ahead as the stage was nearly over). You think he should be punished for that or for not bringing his broken bike with him?? Nonsense.


  • #190
    68 lost souls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    joey100 wrote: »
    Why would he have so much trouble on the neutral service bike? He really seemed all over the place on it, could barely get it moving. I'd have thought it would have been kept in good working order. I get that it wouldn't be set up ideally for him,but it was like night and day between the neutral service and his own bike.

    Could be the size? Too big a frame, I believe Froome is a 56cm but if it was a 58/60cm he could have had issues. Or the gearing on the climb? Or clips?


  • #191
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    dastardly00 wrote: »
    Are you for real?

    Why not? If a sportive can manage it so can these guys.


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  • #192
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quintana 43sec ahead of Froome now based on those results.


  • #193
    InTheTrees
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    uphillonly wrote: »
    I guess they didn't have time to erect barriers that close to finish due to the course change. Really bad crowd behaviour.

    That was crazy. if it hadnt been for the motorbike moving in front the crowd would have completely closed in. A complete mess.


  • #194
    velo.2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    If they change the rules for Froome then they must take a look at the 'etiquette' rules that allowed Froome to take a piss break and allow the second group with his other teammates to get back on.


  • #195
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    terrydel wrote: »
    Why not? If a sportive can manage it so can these guys.

    Winds were too strong for cycling, the authorities do even close off the mountain to cars at times.

    A gust of wind on the exposed part could have been a real danger to the cyclists, far more so than what happened already today.


  • #196
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    death1234567 wrote: »
    Yeah your right. Brailsford would have pulled the car over to collect the smashed carbon fibre pinarello that was a write off anyway and left Froome standing at the side of the road holding his lad.

    Froome ran ahead of the chaos and then hoped that the neutral service car could get up to him (or possibly that there would be barriers up ahead as the stage was nearly over). You think he should be punished for that or for not bringing his broken bike with him?? Nonsense.
    not at all. it's a bike race, where do you draw the line at how many other means of transport you can take? could you not decide to paraglide off a descent to save time? how about maybe you could canoe down a fast moving river? you should be in possession of a bike at all times in a bike race, else its not a bike race, regardless of the circumstances.


  • #197
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    If they change the rules for Froome then they must take a look at the 'etiquette' rules that allowed Froome to take a piss break and allow the second group with his other teammates to get back on.

    there is no 'etiquette' rules


  • #198
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Because the organisers of the sportive were clowns.

    That and you've to consider the crowds at the top, more rubbish, flying debris etc etc. It might have been even more carnage

    Move the crowds down and let the cyclists go up. ASO is a professional organisation and should be able to minimise risk down to an acceptable level.


  • #199
    Jakey Rolling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    godtabh wrote:
    He did for a while and then realized how stupid that was


    Should have taken the shoes off and ran the last km with the bike, a la Chris Mintern a couple of years ago!
    Boo Peep Tri

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



  • #200
    isitraining
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭isitraining


    joey100 wrote: »
    Why would he have so much trouble on the neutral service bike? He really seemed all over the place on it, could barely get it moving. I'd have thought it would have been kept in good working order. I get that it wouldn't be set up ideally for him,but it was like night and day between the neutral service and his own bike.

    Just looking at it again there I think it was possibly the gearing.


  • #201
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,115 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Juan Antonia Flecha thinks time should stand as they havnt made compromises in past (2011?) For similar incidents. Eurosport host looked horrified.

    was the 2011 incident not the 1 where him and another rider were sent into a barbed wire fence and badly injured


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  • #202
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Cleats.


  • #203
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,115 ✭✭✭✭neris


    https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/753611837028044800


  • #204
    Moflojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭Moflojo


    isitraining wrote: »
    Just looking at it again there I think it was possibly the gearing.

    He wasn't clipped in properly. He couldn't pull up on the pedals, that's why he looks like he's going backwards. Just before he dumped the neutral bike his left foot slipped off the pedal completely.


  • #205
    tommy_tucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭tommy_tucker


    kenmc wrote: »
    not at all. it's a bike race, where do you draw the line at how many other means of transport you can take? could you not decide to paraglide off a descent to save time? how about maybe you could canoe down a fast moving river? you should be in possession of a bike at all times in a bike race, else its not a bike race, regardless of the circumstances.

    Most stupid comment of the day goes to...


  • #206
    velo.2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    godtabh wrote: »
    there is no 'etiquette' rules



    Your right. I mean in the sense of the 'spirit of racing'. If his rivals are OK with any neutralisation that keeps Froome in yellow then there must be a discussion on what happened earlier. Valverde was clearly not impressed.


  • #207
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    tommy_tucker wrote: »
    Most stupid comment of the day goes to...

    :confused: He's right though...


  • #208
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Your right. I mean in the sense of the 'spirit of racing'. If his rivals are OK with any neutralisation that keeps Froome in yellow then there must be a discussion on what happened earlier. Valverde was clearly not impressed.

    It was a stroke what froome did to stop but dont confuse that with what happened as a result of a moto stopping because of crowds.


  • #209
    Sarz91
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Sarz91


    CnVcsVVWAAA8d5I.jpg

    According to SBS Froome's bike was also stolen after he left it.


  • #210
    REBELSAFC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭REBELSAFC


    https://twitter.com/Manuel_Javela/status/753610686341738497


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  • #211
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    This is the best one I've seen so far

    https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/753612158215266304


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