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Tour de France Stage 12: Montpellier-Mt.Ventoux 184KM **Spoilers**

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  • #152
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    One thing about the neutral bikes that I wondered... pedals. Do all riders just use the same system?


  • #153
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Will Froome be penalised for running some of the way?
    should be, its not a duathlon


  • #154
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,794 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    isitraining wrote: »
    The least elegant looking Kenyan running I've ever seen!

    I can barely walk in my cleats


  • #155
    ford2600
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    isitraining wrote: »
    The least elegant looking Kenyan running I've ever seen!

    He might be an elegant swimmer, his pretty ungainly at the other two


  • #156
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,616 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    For those that didn't see it...

    First this:

    https://twitter.com/CyclingHubTV/status/753604592215228416

    Then this:

    https://twitter.com/CyclingHubTV/status/753604875037048832


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  • #157
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Moving on the road for an extended period without the bike is potential DQ? I mean Porte stopped completely whereas Froome went for a jog. It's a massive sh*tstorm for the organisers. I'll be gutted for Mollema if they're all given the same time, he was immense today.


  • #158
    velo.2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Well.... before all that madness, Froome didn't get away to the extent that many thought he would. Yes, he dropped Quintana but Porte and Mollema stayed with him. The gap to Quintana had not grown out that much and it looked like they were coming back a bit before the incident.

    They may just neutralise the whole climb and take the GC from the 10km mark given the unprecedented mature of what happened.


  • #159
    topcat77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭topcat77


    They're thinking on it. results only provisional


  • #160
    Thud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭Thud


    mloc123 wrote: »
    One thing about the neutral bikes that I wondered... pedals. Do all riders just use the same system?

    they have one of each of the most common pedals
    supposedly much heavier than team bikes too


    http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/07/05/tdf2015-tech-whats-on-those-mavic-neutral-support-bikes/


  • #161
    death1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭death1234567


    kenmc wrote: »
    should be, its not a duathlon
    No he shouldn't. What was he supposed to do just stand there beside the crashed motorbike and wait for his team car to come along and cause more chaos?


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  • #162
    mhiggy09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭mhiggy09


    I'm pretty sure there the rule is you can't run down the mountain like back to a teammate but you can walk up. Seen/heard it a year or two back. Correct me if I'm wrong


  • #163
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Saw it. A moto was forced to stop by the crowds. Porte went into it and froome into him. His bike was totalled. Can't imagine they've a rule for it.

    Don't like seeing a crash, but Sky are picking and choosing to their advantage when to slow down for crashed riders by the looks of it earlier too.

    This the special edition Xlite F8? totalled after a crash, while going upHill??


  • #164
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,115 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Burial. wrote: »
    Moving on the road for an extended period without the bike is potential DQ? I mean Porte stopped completely whereas Froome went for a jog. It's a massive sh*tstorm for the organisers. I'll be gutted for Mollema if they're all given the same time, he was immense today.

    there,ll be a bigger **** storm and rightly so if froome gets DSQd for that. too many twats trying to be in the riders faces causing chaos


  • #165
    lissard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭lissard


    Only proper solution is to annul the stage. GC stays the same as start of the day, it's been done in the Giro before. You can't penalise the riders for something that is the organisers fault.


  • #166
    uphillonly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭uphillonly


    Something (crowds?) caused the motorbike to stop suddenly. Mollema went straight into the back of it & Froome followed. Froome's bike was broken so he starting running up the mountain after dumping his bike. Eventually he got a neutral bike but appeared to have issues & then later a Sky bike.

    Most sensible outcome would be to give that group the same time at the crash point.

    I guess they didn't have time to erect barriers that close to finish due to the course change. Really bad crowd behaviour.


  • #167
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Agree with Juan Antonio Flecha that the result shouldn't be changed.


  • #168
    dastardly00
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    07Lapierre wrote: »
    This the special edition Xlite F8? totalled after a crash, while going upHill??

    Well all we know is that the bike was in an un-ride-able condition.
    Otherwise he would have jumped back on it.


  • #169
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    This the special edition Xlite F8? totalled after a crash, while going upHill??

    Typical, I've just ordered one of those bikes...


  • #170
    death1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭death1234567


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I cringe every time I see that many people so close to the race was bound to happen sooner or later. No idea what caused the bike filming to slowdown /stop and port run straight into it had to have been breaking to avoid a spectator surely.
    Hopefully the bike crushed the moron.


  • #171
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    death1234567 wrote: »
    Hopefully the bike crushed the moron.

    I don't think thats fair to say, there were far too many people there too close to the race. It's the organisers fault from the looks of it.


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  • #172
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    That was an absolutely unbelievable performance from Froome after his efforts in the break yesterday. If this were another era, we'd be crying foul, but I think it's a testament to marginal gains and what scientific training has done for cycling in the modern era.

    People can now look at these performances and not feel embarrassed. Just listen to Carlton, absolutely ecstatic!


  • #173
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    death1234567 wrote: »
    No he shouldn't. What was he supposed to do just stand there beside the crashed motorbike and wait for his team car to come along and cause more chaos?

    don't see why he couldn't have taken his bike with him instead of littering the place. his team car had to stop to collect it anyway, causing chaos anyway. then he would have completed the distance with his bike.


  • #174
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    death1234567 wrote: »
    No he shouldn't. What was he supposed to do just stand there beside the crashed motorbike and wait for his team car to come along and cause more chaos?

    Carry the bike when running, he was running with no bike.
    It is a bike race, run with the broken bike...


  • #175
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    If its not drugs its this ****.
    The whole thing is a bit of a joke one way or the other every year it seems.

    And the vast majority of the 'fans' on the roadside on these climbs are just pissed up idiots who should be taken out of the gene pool altogether.


  • #176
    death1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭death1234567


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Agree with Juan Antonio Flecha that the result shouldn't be changed.
    Yeah it's just one of those things. Too many incidents in the past where the results stood so you can't go changing them now. ASO will take alot of flak for this mess though. Reducing the length of the stage meant all the loonies were packed in on the mountain. The place looked mobbed.


  • #177
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    lissard wrote: »
    Only proper solution is to annul the stage. GC stays the same as start of the day, it's been done in the Giro before. You can't penalise the riders for something that is the organisers fault.

    In that case maybe the day Porte lost time over a puncture should be annulled?


  • #178
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't think thats fair to say, there were far too many people there too close to the race. It's the organisers fault from the looks of it.

    I blame whoever/whatever blocked the motorbike!


  • #179
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    That was an absolutely unbelievable performance from Froome after his efforts in the break yesterday. If this were another era, we'd be crying foul, but I think it's a testament to marginal gains and what scientific training has done for cycling in the modern era.

    People can now look at these performances and not feel embarrassed. Just listen to Carlton, absolutely ecstatic!

    This is sarcasm, right?


  • #180
    joey100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭joey100


    Why would he have so much trouble on the neutral service bike? He really seemed all over the place on it, could barely get it moving. I'd have thought it would have been kept in good working order. I get that it wouldn't be set up ideally for him,but it was like night and day between the neutral service and his own bike.


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  • #181
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Surely this is down to them changing the finish point at such a late notice, meaning the number of people packed into a smaller area was hugely increased.
    Should have sucked it up and had them cycle to the top, not as if they then had to descend.


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