Pulp Fiction is overrated...

Pickpocket · 13-07-2016 02:43PM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

There's some of us here wish when we talked about "older" films that we were talking about the 80s

Ha, I'm sure!

Although when I say older films I mean genuinely older films. My dad raised me on a diet of 50s westerns.

Joe_ Public · 13-07-2016 02:44PM

Fuzzytrooper wrote: »

I really didn't like Pulp Fiction. While I do think it is well made, I have never been a fan of Tarantino's style. Then again my opinion probably doesn't count for much. I liked Battle LA. Reminded me of my old FCA days...battling alien invaders from the sea. Ah memories.... But seriously, I think it's his deliberate over the top, super cool style that bugs me. Again I can appreciate it and I think it's exactly the effect he is going for but I much prefer more realistically styled films. I did just mention a film about an alien invasion but I think you know what I mean.

Would agree with this (apart from the Battle LA thing which I've never heard of or seen to be honest). I did go to see Pulp Fiction at the time and liked it, but Tarantino wouldn't have had the same effect on me that Oliver Stone had. Stone's films around that time blew me away and fostered a lifelong interest in left wing American politics.

Story Bud? · 13-07-2016 02:48PM

Bambi wrote: »

I preferred True Romance

I wouldn't say I prefer it, but it's definitely the closest thing to second anything could be.

There are only a handful of movies that I would never tire of watching. Pulp Fiction and True Romance are at the very top of that handful.

Joe_ Public · 13-07-2016 02:57PM

Pickpocket wrote: »

Ha, I'm sure!

Although when I say older films I mean genuinely older films. My dad raised me on a diet of 50s westerns.

Yeah I knew what you meant alright. I like tuning in to the free movie channels once in a while as they're are often some decent 40s or 50s war films on. I'm sure the 80s was quite serviceable for film making, but for some reason I just get visions of Rob Lowe and that horrible Brat Pack anytime it's mentioned!

Fuzzytrooper · 13-07-2016 02:59PM

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Would agree with this (apart from the Battle LA thing which I've never heard of or seen to be honest). I did go to see Pulp Fiction at the time and liked it, but Tarantino wouldn't have had the same effect on me that Oliver Stone had. Stone's films around that time blew me away and fostered a lifelong interest in left wing American politics.

Battle LA is very much a marmite film. If you find following an infantry section acting like real life infantry through an attack for an hour or so then it's great. Just don't expect an Avengers style blockbuster.

HamsterFace · 13-07-2016 03:05PM

I think that Pulp Fiction being overrated will actually become an increasingly common opinion.

Younger audiences will watch and wonder what's the big deal? Kind of how are lot of my generation felt after watching Citizen Kane.

What they cannot know is the impact this film had at the time, the structure, the dialogue, the style. Like Citizen Kanes camera work. They just won't get how it changed things (unless they turn into massive movie nerds, read all the books and compare films before and after)

mrsdewinter · 13-07-2016 03:10PM

Come on - go easy on the OP. If you'd never heard anything about Pulp Fiction & stumbled across it on the telly, you'd think it was all right. In fairness, most of us saw it against a backdrop of incredible hype which either enhanced the experience or hobbled it.
Personally, I've always preferred Reservoir Dogs - I think because I saw it first and it was clear that Tarantino was a fresh cultural force.

Michael D Not Higgins · 13-07-2016 03:12PM

Looking for OP's reasoning like

Tar.Aldarion · 13-07-2016 03:28PM

Well' it's clearly overrated because <definition of overrated here>

Wtf OP. This thread should be closed.

faceman · 13-07-2016 03:30PM

Completely agree. Tarantino is a vastly overrated film nerd surrounded by yes men.

He lacks the ability to develop characters, write strong female characters.

Joe_ Public · 13-07-2016 03:34PM

Fuzzytrooper wrote: »

Battle LA is very much a marmite film. If you find following an infantry section acting like real life infantry through an attack for an hour or so then it's great. Just don't expect an Avengers style blockbuster.

Sounds fairly promising actually.

adox · 13-07-2016 03:43PM

faceman wrote: »

Completely agree. Tarantino is a vastly overrated film nerd surrounded by yes men.

He lacks the ability to develop characters, write strong female characters.

Jackie Brown?
Black Mamba?

Billy86 · 13-07-2016 08:19PM

Even a lot of industry type people that can't stand Tarantino will happily tell you Pulp Fiction is a great movie and one of the most important of the last 30-40 years in terms of influence (for better or for worse; imitators).

So no.

Olishi4 · 13-07-2016 08:20PM

faceman wrote: »

Completely agree. Tarantino is a vastly overrated film nerd surrounded by yes men.

He lacks the ability to develop characters, write strong female characters.

Mia Wallace is a strong female character

johnny_ultimate · 13-07-2016 08:24PM

Tempted to add a ban on the word 'overrated' to the forum charter :pac:

(I'm only half joking)

kupus · 13-07-2016 08:24PM

adox wrote: »

Jackie Brown?
Black Mamba?

Not to mention kill bill. i wonder would ghostbusters have been made without the influence of Tarantino :pac:

moc moc a moc · 13-07-2016 08:31PM

tomofson wrote: »

Talk about everyone ganging up on the one guy with the difference in opinion...

If you spout an ill-informed opinion without backing it up with any substance whatsoever, expect to be ridiculed.

Donutz · 13-07-2016 08:32PM

It seems to me OP that perhaps the film is no so much overrated, rather you just didn't enjoy it as much as most other people.

I do understand though that when you haven't seen a movie and everybody on the planet is hyping it up for you, no matter how good the movie turns out to be it will usually not live up to the expectation.

Ursus Horribilis · 13-07-2016 08:32PM

I really can't stand Tarantino when I see him being interviewed and think he's a one-trick pony. If he hadn't gone on to make the mixed bag of films he has, he'd be seen as an auteur.

Sleeper12 · 13-07-2016 08:34PM

tomofson wrote:

Sorry if it offends anyone but in my opinion it is the most overrated movie on the planet. Don't get me wrong it was good for a once off watch and sort of enjoyable. A masterpiece though it was not...

tomofson wrote:

Anyone with me on this?

It is considered a masterpiece because it was groundbreaking in its day. There had never been a movie like it before. It's easy now today to say it's overrated when you've seen plenty of movies like it since

Pete Moss · 13-07-2016 09:48PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Tempted to add a ban on the word 'overrated' to the forum charter :pac:

(I'm only half joking)

Ugh, half jokes are so overrated.

Nervous Wreck · 13-07-2016 09:55PM

Pete Moss wrote: »

Ugh, half jokes are so overrated.

At least give a reason WHY you think they're overrated.

T-Maxx · 13-07-2016 10:26PM

Sleeper12 wrote:

It is considered a masterpiece because it was groundbreaking in its day. There had never been a movie like it before. It's easy now today to say it's overrated when you've seen plenty of movies like it since

This.

Also simply because you don't 'like' something doesn't mean it's overrated.

Heckler · 13-07-2016 10:36PM

I don't even think I'd consider it "overrated". Just because its loved by a lot of people ? What constitutes "overrated" ?

Its a film I watch at least a couple of times a year along with True Romance (probably prefer that to be honest) and Goodfellas.

Mostly for the absolutely cracking dialogue and memorable characters of all of them.

How many years later did you still see people dancing in nightclubs like Mia and Vincent ? (Ok that may be sad but it shows its influence)

Walken and Hoppers scene in True Romance is a masterpiece.

Funny how.

Disagree and I'm going to get medieval on your ass.

PowerToWait · 13-07-2016 10:48PM

Like a lot of people I loved it when it came out. Fantastic, ground breaking and all the nine yards.

But I watched it a few years ago and thought it really hadn't aged well. Not sure whether I'd matured or become jaded or what, but it's very much of its time I thought.

Wouldn't watch again.

mdwexford · 13-07-2016 11:42PM

It's fresh as the day it came out imo.

Awesome dialogue and great characters don't age.

Compared to the countless reboots, sequels, superhero and animated films that we are currently bombarded with id take the 90s back in a heartbeat.

e_e · 14-07-2016 12:04AM

Pulp Fiction is brilliant, it may be overrated but Jackie Brown happens to be extremely underrated (and his best film) so it all balances out.

Arghus · 14-07-2016 12:07AM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I really can't stand Tarantino when I see him being interviewed and think he's a one-trick pony. If he hadn't gone on to make the mixed bag of films he has, he'd be seen as an auteur.

What do you mean exactly? He isn't an auteur?

I don't always agree with the idea of the auteur theory - film being mainly a collaborative process and all that - but if it does hold any water, and can be applied to any contemporary filmmaker then I think Tarantino is most definitely as much of an auteur as there currently is out there working at making movies today.

That is not to say that I think he is an unbeatable filmmaker: some of his movies I rate, others not so much. But, irrespective of quality, they are definitely his works. And the "Hodge podge" of genres only makes it clearer in my mind. No matter what genre he's working with his films are Tarantino movies first and foremost; for better or worse no-one could have made them exactly like that.

Tomagotchye · 14-07-2016 01:25AM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Nah Pulp Fiction isn't overrated, it's a great film.

If you want something that's ridiculously overrated try The Lord Of The Rings trilogy, it's some of thr most boring shíte I've ever seen.

Whether it is boring or not matters not, it's a case of genre and viewer there, but LOTR it's such a technical and visual masterpiece that I cannot believe it will ever be over-rated. I know a host of people who would never have read fantasy novels but for being inspired by fellowship or two towers

Olishi4 · 14-07-2016 08:59AM

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Nah Pulp Fiction isn't overrated, it's a great film.

If you want something that's ridiculously overrated try The Lord Of The Rings trilogy, it's some of thr most boring shíte I've ever seen.

In Clerks 2, Randall demonstrates why LOTR is overrated. He says it's 3 movies of people walking

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAEo3CWeq8

Pulp Fiction is overrated...

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