Pulp Fiction is overrated...

tomofson

Sorry if it offends anyone but in my opinion it is the most overrated movie on the planet. Don't get me wrong it was good for a once off watch and sort of enjoyable. A masterpiece though it was not...

Anyone with me on this?

Cookie_Dough

No

kupus

If you are going to parrot what you hear from other hipster kids then at least give a reason why it was over rated.

tomofson

kupus wrote: »

If you are going to parrot what you hear from other hipster kids then at least give a reason why it was over rated.

Not parroting nothing I know I am in a minority here, a lot of people automatically think I am trying to say it is sh!t when that is not what I'm trying to say... Simply just my view is that it is very overrated.

Bacchus

tomofson wrote: »

Not parroting nothing I know I am in a minority here, a lot of people automatically think I am trying to say it is sh!t when that is not what I'm trying to say... Simply just my view is that it is very overrated.

Still haven't said WHY you think it is overrated.

tomofson

Bacchus wrote: »

Still haven't said WHY you think it is overrated.

Why is it overrated? Because its made out to be better than it actually is. Don't know how to make it more simpler than that.

kupus

Still looks to me that you heard it somewhere, and just thought it sounds edgy so why not post it on boards.
I suppose the birds is a crap movie as well.

Grayditch

It's rated just fine. It was like nothing else at it's time. Brilliant film with fantastic dialogue.

Pickpocket

tomofson wrote: »

Why is it overrated? Because its made out to be better than it actually is. Don't know how to make it more simpler than that.

You're still not addressing the issue. Explain why you think it's overrated. What specific aspects of the film did you have an issue with? What didn't live up to the hype?

The great thing here is that whatever you say you're not gonna be 'wrong'? People might disagree with you, and I suspect they will, but everyone is entitled to an opinion and yours is as valid as anyone else's. The trouble is you haven't actually given one yet.

FAILSAFE 00

Pickpocket wrote: »

You're still not addressing the issue. Explain why you think it's overrated. What specific aspects of the film did you have an issue with? What didn't live up to the hype?

The great thing here is that whatever you say you're not gonna be 'wrong'? People might disagree with you, and I suspect they will, but everyone is entitled to an opinion and yours is as valid as anyone else's. The trouble is you haven't actually given one yet.

Jeez, give him time to Google a response.

Conall Cernach

I saw this film on its release in the cinema. Besides being at turns funny, cool, tense etc. it had some great dialogue and characters. It was a truly ground breaking movie in the early 90's and its influence can be seen in the gangster/crime genre ever since. Maybe because all of the tropes have become so ubiquitous in cinema and TV since its release that Pulp Fiction has become slightly underappreciated of late.

Is it the greatest movie ever made? No, but it is still damn good.

smash

tomofson wrote: »

Why is it overrated? Because its made out to be better than it actually is. Don't know how to make it more simpler than that.

This isn't Natural Born Killers we're talking about. Pulp Fiction did actually live up to the hype.

Falthyron

Bacchus

I think the OP is on to something here. I think I might just have a browse through the IMDB top 100 movies and create a few threads calling out overrated movies on the list. Why? Because its made out to be better than it actually is.

Decuc500

Seeing Pulp Fiction on it's original release was like taking a punch to the gut. I had seen nothing quite like it at the time. It almost floored me. I think it's a stunning movie that has held up well over the years.

tomofson

smash wrote: »

This isn't Natural Born Killers we're talking about. Pulp Fiction did actually live up to the hype.

Strange you mention natural born killers cause thats actually one of my favourite films.

Anyone wanting to know what the word "overrated" means can look it up in the dictionary

The OP is right, it insists upon itself.

Grayditch

Another thread that won't really work anyway.

Fact: Movie is highly rated.
Opinion: Movie is not good.(Subjective)

You can't have a conversation beyond this, really. Especially the way the OP is shrugging it off his own thread already.

Not as many cages rattled as I'd say they hoped. Still time, though.

Dyr

I preferred True Romance

Pickpocket

tomofson wrote: »

Anyone wanting to know what the word "overrated" means can look it up in the dictionary

That's high quality film criticism.

Is that you, Roger?

Ol' Donie

Haven't seen it ages.

Remember it knocking my socks off.

Pete Moss

tomofson wrote: »

Strange you mention natural born killers cause thats actually one of my favourite films.

Anyone wanting to know what the word "overrated" means can look it up in the dictionary

"English, mother****er, do you speak it?"

No one wants to know the definition of "overrated," I'm sure most have a basic grasp as to its meaning. People are asking as to why you find the film overrated, as you made the thread/statement.

"Overrated" has become a quick and easy way to completely discredit something a person dislikes, be it a film, song, sportsperson, etc., without actually giving a proper justification as to why the person, place or thing, in question is actually "overrated." Once the subject has been classified as "overrated" by its accuser, the accuser then tends to hide behind the classic defence "well, you know, that's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it."

"Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?"

Pulp Fiction fully deserves it's plaudits. No scene is wasted in the movie. Even during the moments when the dialogue does not develop the plot, when it's just two blokes shooting the breeze about cheeseburgers and the little differences between the US and Europe, or a junkie telling his dealer about how his car was keyed, the movie still holds up and holds the viewer's attention.

It has some of the most iconic scenes and pieces of dialogue in movie history, as well as an instantly recognisable soundtrack. It's also a film which has aged well, due to how it was shot and delivered. Some classics look just like that, classic. Whereas Pulp Fiction still looks, for the want of a better word, relevant.

Lucky for you though "You happened to pull this **** while I was in a transitional period."

Ardent

Top, top movie. Thank you OP - you have reminded me to watch this masterpiece again.

On True Romance -
Another classic. That scene between Dennis Hopper (RIP) and Christopher Walken remains my ALL TIME favourite scene EVER from a movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM

zoobizoo

Have to say that at the time it blew everyone in the cinema away...

.................. apart from the two people sitting behind me who couldn't understand how someone who was dead re-appeared


...................... because they couldn't understand the time jumps.

As has been said before, it was like nothing we'd ever seen before at the time.

Mr E

It's a fantastic movie and has aged really well (22 years now?!) .... but ---- I didn't like the soundtrack. Some of those songs were like nails on a blackboard to me.

Like many others in this thread, I now have the desire to watch it again.

Pickpocket

I notice from another of the OP's posts that he's 24 years of age (I normally hate snooping but I had a 'hunch'). I just wonder if a person of that age has trouble appreciating just how fundamental Pulp Fiction is in terms of the trajectory of contemporary cinema, and even TV? For example, the OP wouldn't even have been old enough to watch Breaking Bad when that series first aired!

Pickpocket

Mr E wrote: »

It's a fantastic movie and has aged really well (22 years now?!) .... but ---- I didn't like the soundtrack. Some of those songs were like nails on a blackboard to me.

Like many others in this thread, I now have the desire to watch it again.

I love the soundtrack, but as with Reservoir Dogs, Tarantino both rescues those tracks from obscurity, then kills them stone dead because of their association with the film. I find it impossible to listen to any of his selections outside of the films. That's not a criticism though. If anything it's a compliment as to how well he uses music and the quality of those individuals scenes.

smash

Pickpocket wrote: »

I notice from another of the OP's posts that he's 24 years of age (I normally hate snooping but I had a 'hunch'). I just wonder if a person of that age has trouble appreciating just how fundamental Pulp Fiction is in terms of the trajectory of contemporary cinema, and even TV? For example, the OP wouldn't even have been old enough to watch Breaking Bad when that series first aired!

At that age, OP probably thinks that Twilight is great and The Lost Boys is a pile of shíte.

Pete Moss

Pickpocket wrote: »

I love the soundtrack, but as with Reservoir Dogs, Tarantino both rescues those tracks from obscurity, then kills them stone dead because of their association with the film. I find it impossible to listen to any of his selections outside of the films. That's not a criticism though. If anything it's a compliment as to how well he uses music and the quality of those individuals scenes.

This made me sad, because it means you don't listen to "Hooked On A Feeling" by Blue Swede nearly enough as you should in your everyday life :P

jimmy blevins

Is it still legal to burn blasphemers at the stake?

Pickpocket

Pete Moss wrote: »

This made me sad, because it means you don't listen to "Hooked On A Feeling" by Blue Swede nearly enough as you should in your everyday life :P

I'm listening to it right now.

Hey, I could get used to this!

Squall Leonhart

The OP also claimed the Red Hot Chili Peppers were underappreciated in another thread...

Dyr

Ardent wrote: »

Top, top movie. Thank you OP - you have reminded me to watch this masterpiece again.

On True Romance -
Another classic. That scene between Dennis Hopper (RIP) and Christopher Walken remains my ALL TIME favourite scene EVER from a movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM

It's great but the fight scene between patricia arquette and james gandolfini is even better

"This is it baby, moment of truth"

ziedth

Deleted User wrote: »

The OP is right, it insists upon itself.

Damn you I was scrolling down to say the same thing.....


Anyway, nonsense IMHO. its pretty much the perfect film I think there are any number of films that I could get on board with being overrated such as Slumdog Millionare (like you I thought it was a good film I just don't see the love in).

Pickpocket

Squall Leonhart wrote: »

The OP also claimed the Red Hot Chili Peppers were underappreciated in another thread...

Depends on the context. Obviously they're a hugely successful band but there are times when I think their instrumentation is written off by people precisely because they've become so commercial. I would say the same about some of U2's guitar work.

Pickpocket

ziedth wrote: »

there are any number of films that I could get on board with being overrated such as Slumdog Millionare (like you I thought it was a good film I just don't see the love in).

But WHY for Christ's sake?

Grayditch

Squall Leonhart wrote: »

The OP also claimed the Red Hot Chili Peppers were underappreciated in another thread...

/discussion.

Tipsy McSwagger

tomofson wrote: »

Why is it overrated? Because its made out to be better than it actually is. Don't know how to make it more simpler than that.

One of the most stupidest responses I've read on Boards.

Arghus

Citizen Kane is overrated.

Sunday morning lie in's are overrated.

The smell of petrol is overrated.

Jesus was overrated.

The key question is why?

Joe_ Public

I liked Reservoir Dogs more than I did Pulp Fiction. After that I can take or leave Tarantino to be honest.

mdwexford

Just realised OP is the after hours guy, moving on.

Pulp Fiction is up there with my greatest movies ever.

Tipsy McSwagger

Joe_ Public wrote: »

I liked Reservoir Dogs more than I did Pulp Fiction. After that I can take or leave Tarantino to be honest.

Jackie Brown is arguably his best film.

smash

Joe_ Public wrote: »

I liked Reservoir Dogs more than I did Pulp Fiction. After that I can take or leave Tarantino to be honest.

I'm the opposite. I found most of Reservoir Dogs to be a borefest. I loved Pulp Fiction and a few more of his movies. Kill Bill for example is just brilliant in my opinion.

tomofson

Pickpocket wrote: »

I notice from another of the OP's posts that he's 24 years of age (I normally hate snooping but I had a 'hunch'). I just wonder if a person of that age has trouble appreciating just how fundamental Pulp Fiction is in terms of the trajectory of contemporary cinema, and even TV? For example, the OP wouldn't even have been old enough to watch Breaking Bad when that series first aired!

I can appreciate why you would think that but believe it or not I actually like older films better. If I made a list of my top 100 favourite films I'd say maybe 10 would be post 2000. I do appreciate older films a lot better my favourite decade of film would be the 80's followed closely behind by the 90's.

zoobizoo

zoobizoo wrote: »

Have to say that at the time it blew everyone in the cinema away...

.................. apart from the two people sitting behind me who couldn't understand how someone who was dead re-appeared


...................... because they couldn't understand the time jumps.

As has been said before, it was like nothing we'd ever seen before at the time.

Friend of mine heard a couple behind him talking about the same thing, went as follows!!

"What's yer man doin back alive, sure he was just shot by bruce willis in the gaff"

Boyfriend response, I kid you not!!
" ye bleedin thick, he was obviously wearin a ****in bullet proof vest"

Class!!!!!!

Joe_ Public

smash wrote: »

I'm the opposite. I found most of Reservoir Dogs to be a borefest. I loved Pulp Fiction and a few more of his movies. Kill Bill for example is just brilliant in my opinion.

I still think Pulp Fiction is great mind. And the likes of Kill Bill, Django, Inglorious etc are all fine, very watchable films, and I love Tarantino's knowledge and passion for movie making, but there's just something about most of those films that stops them short of greatness in my opinion. I see what he's trying to do, but it just doesn't quite come off for me in most cases.

Dirty Dingus McGee

It is a great film but I do wonder if it would have been better if it followed a traditional narrative structure instead of it being a series of interlinked short stories..

Personally I'd rank it behind, Jackie Brown,Inglorious Bastards and Reservoir Dogs.

I haven't seen it in a few years so I'd like to watch it again and see if my mid has changed.

Pickpocket

tomofson wrote: »

I can appreciate why you would think that but believe it or not I actually like older films better. If I made a list of my top 100 favourite films I'd say maybe 10 would be post 2000. I do appreciate older films a lot better my favourite decade of film would be the 80's followed closely behind by the 90's.

Of course, and that's why it was merely speculation on my part. I'm the exact same myself. I'm 31 but I've always been more interested in older films.

Pickpocket

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

It is a great film but I do wonder if it would have been better if it followed a traditional narrative structure instead of it being a series of interlinked short stories..

Personally I'd rank it behind, Jackie Brown,Inglorious Bastards and Reservoir Dogs.

I haven't seen it in a few years so I'd like to watch it again and see if my mid has changed.

I've heard there's a fan edit doing the rounds that places the scenes in chronological order. I can't see the attraction though.

The Real B-man

i'm not having this! Bring out the Gimp!:pac:

tomofson

Talk about everyone ganging up on the one guy with the difference in opinion...