Where to live?

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 02:53PM #1

I'm currently months away from this being a reality, but I am one for thinking in advance.

It's looking unlikely I'd be able to get sponsorship in Australia, and Canada looks like a no go too, so I'm thinking my only real options are to consider somewhere within the EU to live and work.

Now I'm not looking to have any of this about bashing Ireland, it's just not for me.

So i'm looking for advice / experience / opinions from experienced boardsies, people who have or are living somewhere else permanently (or semi) on where I should or shouldn't consider going.

I'd hugely prefer warm places, and unfortunately don't really have any other languages (though could make a reasonable stab at french) so obviously these kinda limit my options, though yeah I would expect to pick up the language. I have been wondering about jobs though, I mean how do you move to another country where English isn't the first language, and get a job?

Would love to hear from anyone on this.

Kev_2012 · 12-07-2016 02:59PM

1 - Marry an Aussie, marry a Canadian or Yank.
2 - Learn French, Spanish, Portuguese or Italian.
3 - Gibraltar

Lollipops23 · 12-07-2016 03:01PM

Why is Canada a no-go? It's piss easy to get into and there's plenty of work in the bigger cities. Nice people, lovely summers if you can deal with the winters. So much to see too!

me_irl · 12-07-2016 03:02PM

Become a drug mule.

Kev_2012 · 12-07-2016 03:03PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Why is Canada a no-go? It's piss easy to get into and there's plenty of work in the bigger cities. Nice people, lovely summers if you can deal with the winters. So much to see too!

This is why you move to Vancouver and not Calgary/Edmonton/Toronto etc :cool:

listermint · 12-07-2016 03:05PM

You are saying 'its just not for me' but without telling 'what is for you' its quite hard to give you advice on where to go.

Youve given no interests. or reasons to go. ?

jester77 · 12-07-2016 03:08PM

Come over to Germany. We more or less rule the EU, so you can get a say in what happens to your friends and family back in Ireland. Taxes are high in comparison to Ireland, but booze is cheap... so it sort of works out evenly in the end.

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 03:18PM

Kev_2012 wrote: »

1 - Marry an Aussie, marry a Canadian or Yank.
2 - Learn French, Spanish, Portuguese or Italian.
3 - Gibraltar

1. The second my boyfriend breaks it off I'll do just that
2. I would do that while living in the respective country
3. I would just for the monkeys

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 03:20PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Why is Canada a no-go? It's piss easy to get into and there's plenty of work in the bigger cities. Nice people, lovely summers if you can deal with the winters. So much to see too!

Piss easy? Not if you don't have the skills on the skills list afaics. If there's another way please let me know because Canada was the next place on the list.

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 03:23PM

listermint wrote: »

You are saying 'its just not for me' but without telling 'what is for you' its quite hard to give you advice on where to go.

Youve given no interests. or reasons to go. ?

Its not meant to be advice based on what I like or don't like, it's just an open question for suggestions and experiences.

A huge part of not wanting to go back and stay in Ireland are the negativity and the weather.

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 03:24PM

jester77 wrote: »

Come over to Germany. We more or less rule the EU, so you can get a say in what happens to your friends and family back in Ireland. Taxes are high in comparison to Ireland, but booze is cheap... so it sort of works out evenly in the end.

Don't work out so well if you don't spend all your wages on drink though...

Lollipops23 · 12-07-2016 03:26PM

Go on the 2 year work holiday visa- it's what myself and a lot of my friends did. Loads of them are applying for Perm Residency now. I didn't, I only wanted to go for a year (which I did).

The whole process of getting the visas is a bit stressful, but only cost $200 CAD and it's honestly very straightforward.

retalivity · 12-07-2016 03:32PM

Canada is dull as dishwater, having endured it for 3 years i couldnt wait to leave.

Its like a big massive longford.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 12-07-2016 03:33PM

jester77 wrote: »

Come over to Germany. We more or less rule the EU, so you can get a say in what happens to your friends and family back in Ireland. Taxes are high in comparison to Ireland, but booze is cheap... so it sort of works out evenly in the end.

Might want to ease up on the reins there a little if you want it to survive.

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 03:35PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Go on the 2 year work holiday visa- it's what myself and a lot of my friends did. Loads of them are applying for Perm Residency now. I didn't, I only wanted to go for a year (which I did).

The whole process of getting the visas is a bit stressful, but only cost $200 CAD and it's honestly very straightforward.

Stressful and straightforward usually don't go hand in hand! I'll look into it again so. It's up to 35 right not 30?

syklops · 12-07-2016 03:39PM

Tipperary Fairy wrote: »

Piss easy? Not if you don't have the skills on the skills list afaics. If there's another way please let me know because Canada was the next place on the list.

What skills do you have?

smash · 12-07-2016 03:41PM

Tipperary Fairy wrote: »

Piss easy? Not if you don't have the skills on the skills list afaics.

Surely this will be the same with any destination that requires a visa? If you feel that you don't have a desirable skill set then try to break your skills down in to categories and check the average wage across EU destinations for these categories. Then see what the market is like for English speakers in these categories. Either way if you're not going to Ireland, the UK mainland or Gibraltar then I'd say you'll need to look in to learning a secondary language.

Dr Crayfish · 12-07-2016 03:47PM

Canada wasn't much to my liking, lived there for a while, boring as hell but some pretty places none the less. I love Australia though, the beach life etc.
So my guess is you don't have the skills to get a long term visa for one of the New World countries. So you can go to an EU country where you'll probably have to work some muppet job in an Irish bar or a call centre that you don't really need the local lingo for, live for a while on awful money, slowly start to resent this new country and blame them for your ills, and then come home and realise Ireland isn't that bad.

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 03:58PM

syklops wrote: »

What skills do you have?

Why do you ask? I have a good honours degree but I've not worked in the area since graduating. My background since has been (broadly speaking) administration.

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 04:02PM

smash wrote: »

Surely this will be the same with any destination that requires a visa? If you feel that you don't have a desirable skill set then try to break your skills down in to categories and check the average wage across EU destinations for these categories. Then see what the market is like for English speakers in these categories. Either way if you're not going to Ireland, the UK mainland or Gibraltar then I'd say you'll need to look in to learning a secondary language.

Well no, every country will have a different skills list. It's not about feeling I don't have the necessary skillset, it's a very procedural thing, you have to provide evidence of your experience and if applicable show you have an education in it.

I'd consider the UK or Gibraltar, if they're still places we'd be able to go.

And I just wouldn't learn a whole language before I go somewhere really, wouldn't make much sense.

Tipperary Fairy · 12-07-2016 04:05PM

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Canada wasn't much to my liking, lived there for a while, boring as hell but some pretty places none the less. I love Australia though, the beach life etc.
So my guess is you don't have the skills to get a long term visa for one of the New World countries. So you can go to an EU country where you'll probably have to work some muppet job in an Irish bar or a call centre that you don't really need the local lingo for, live for a while on awful money, slowly start to resent this new country and blame them for your ills, and then come home and realise Ireland isn't that bad.

That's quite a prediction / projection :pac: I don't think wanting to have proper seasons and wanting to get away from the negativity means I'm blaming Ireland for my 'ills'.

Dr Crayfish · 12-07-2016 04:18PM

Tipperary Fairy wrote: »

That's quite a prediction / projection :pac: I don't think wanting to have proper seasons and wanting to get away from the negativity means I'm blaming Ireland for my 'ills'.

What negativity? Wherever you go, there you are...

Dr Crayfish · 12-07-2016 04:19PM

Tipperary Fairy wrote: »

I'd consider the UK or Gibraltar, if they're still places we'd be able to go.

The weather's a bit better in London but not by much. If it's seasons you're looking for the UK ain't the place, but you wouldn't have a problem getting a job there for sure.

Grayson · 12-07-2016 04:31PM

retalivity wrote: »

Canada is dull as dishwater, having endured it for 3 years i couldnt wait to leave.

Its like a big massive longford.

That sounds like hell.

ScumLord · 12-07-2016 04:36PM

Why would you need a foreign language? You can point and say words louder and slower can't you?

syklops · 12-07-2016 04:37PM

Tipperary Fairy wrote: »

Why do you ask? I have a good honours degree but I've not worked in the area since graduating. My background since has been (broadly speaking) administration.

What do you mean why do I ask?

You said you didnt have the skills for sponsorship in Canada. I was trying to establish that you had some skills in something which might be useful somewhere.

We have now established you have a degree in something and you have been doing administration in something for some period of time.

I now feel fully briefed. :rolleyes:

biko · 12-07-2016 04:39PM

Bartender in Ibiza

syklops · 12-07-2016 04:41PM

Cage Dancer in Torremolinos.

That'd be Tropic!

12-07-2016 04:50PM

The weather in the south east of England is dries and warmer than here, or if you have a degree why got to Dubai or the like and teach English for a while.

ScumLord · 12-07-2016 05:00PM

mariaalice wrote: »

The weather in the south east of England is dries and warmer than here, or if you have a degree why got to Dubai or the like and teach English for a while.

The thing that surprised me about south of London is how rural it is. Once you get off the motorway it's narrow country roads worse than here and shops that close at six in the evening, it was quite surprising.

I wouldn't go to Dubai, you could end up in jail or flogged for something stupid.

pickarooney · 12-07-2016 05:00PM

Malta

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