Army "called in to shoot cows over debt dispute"

My name is URL · 06-07-2016 03:52PM #1

Five heifers were allegedly shot by members of the armed forces on Tuesday as part of an alleged debt recovery exercise.

The Irish Farmers Journal has been contacted by the owners of the animals who allege that five of their heifers were shot by members of the army on a farm in Co Monaghan.

The owners of the stock told the Irish Farmers Journal that the army was called to shoot the animals after the debt collection service had struggled to load the five animals on to a truck. The owners also allege that all other machinery from the farm had been removed. It is understood that the local Department of Agriculture vet had been made aware of the military exercise.

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/watch-cattle-allegedly-shot-by-army-in-debt-dispute-214374

This just popped up on my newsfeed. May be more to it than what is mentioned in the article of course.

But still, it's a bit of an extreme approach to take if true, no?

06-07-2016 03:56PM

I would have thought about 1 metre of black wavin plastic piping across the rump usually gets them moving.

Getting the army to go to the heifer seems like a serious waste of time and money.

Andy Magic · 06-07-2016 03:58PM

Scumbags :mad:

alchemist33 · 06-07-2016 03:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would have thought about 1 metre of black wavin plastic piping across the rump usually gets them moving.

Getting the army to go to the heifer seems like a serious waste of time and money.

And a serious waste of heifers. If true, this is disgraceful.

My name is URL · 06-07-2016 04:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would have thought about 1 metre of black wavin plastic piping across the rump usually gets them moving.

Getting the army to go to the heifer seems like a serious waste of time and money.

I'd be less worried about the money and time being wasted and more about the fecking army being used as a tool in debt disputes of private citizens!

That seems like a seriously dodgy road to head down.

The Backwards Man · 06-07-2016 04:08PM

There's a lot more to the story than that, the cattle had TB and were running wild through the back roads of Monaghan, don't believe all the ****stirring you read on The Hub

The_Valeyard · 06-07-2016 04:11PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

There's a lot more to the story than that, the cattle had TB and were running wild through the back roads of Monaghan, don't believe all the ****stirring you read on The Hub

If they had TB, serious health Issue. If gone mad, could have been serious danger to the public.

If not, complete over reaction to use the defence forces.

Luckily these were not cows with guns.

endacl · 06-07-2016 04:14PM

OK. I'll go first.

Irish army involved in moo-noeuvres.

Johnmuck · 06-07-2016 04:17PM

♪ ♫

He was a scrawny calf, who looked rather woozy
No one suspected he was packing an Uzi
Cows with guns

They came with a needle to stick in his thigh
He kicked for the groin, he pissed in their eye
Cow well hung

Knocked over a tractor and ran for the door
Six gallons of gas flowed out on the floor
Run cows run!

He picked up a bullhorn and jumped up on the hay
We are free roving bovines, we run free today.

♪ ♫

PARlance · 06-07-2016 04:18PM

endacl wrote: »

OK. I'll go first.

Irish army involved in moo-noeuvres.

Udder Bullocks

The Backwards Man · 06-07-2016 04:18PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

If they had TB, serious health Issue. If gone mad, could have been serious danger to the public.

If not, complete over reaction to use the defence forces.

Luckily these were not cows with guns.

Aye, if I had a farm near there I'd be slow to call the shooting of whoever let them out an over reaction either. Having a herd turned down for TB is no laughing matter.

Allinall · 06-07-2016 04:20PM

Andy Magic wrote: »

Scumbags :mad:

Bit harsh.

They're just innocent heifers.

Skylinehead · 06-07-2016 04:21PM

endacl wrote: »

OK. I'll go first.

Irish army involved in moo-noeuvres.

There was a whole cattlelion of them involved

mzungu · 06-07-2016 04:21PM

Pull the udder one.

mzungu · 06-07-2016 04:26PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

There was a whole cattlelion of them involved

They sure are milking the situation now.

06-07-2016 04:27PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I'd be less worried about the money and time being wasted and more about the fecking army being used as a tool in debt disputes of private citizens!

That seems like a seriously dodgy road to head down.

Huh?

There is nothing new in that. Who else would shoot animals?

Tabnabs · 06-07-2016 04:27PM

Bunch of cowherds...

endacl · 06-07-2016 04:27PM

mzungu wrote: »

They sure are milking the situation now.

Rightly cheesed off, and no mis-steak.

mzungu · 06-07-2016 04:29PM

endacl wrote: »

Rightly cheesed off, and no mis-steak.

I think we all need to heifer break from this.

My name is URL · 06-07-2016 04:31PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

There's a lot more to the story than that, the cattle had TB and were running wild through the back roads of Monaghan, don't believe all the ****stirring you read on The Hub

Do you have a source for either of those statements?

I said in the OP that there is probably more to it, but why should I believe you any more than what's said in the article?

The Backwards Man · 06-07-2016 04:32PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Huh?

There is nothing new in that. Who else would shoot animals?

Yep, I remember years ago a neighbour of mine had a bull run amok in fields at the border and was heading for Derry City, we got it stopped in time but the British Army were ready to shoot it if it got too close to Shantallow.

The Backwards Man · 06-07-2016 04:35PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Do you have a source for either of those statements?

I said in the OP that there is probably more to it, but why should I believe you any more than what's said in the article?

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2016/07/06/4122821-cmx-cow-cull-due-to-public-safety/

Joe prim · 06-07-2016 04:35PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yep, I remember years ago a neighbour of mine had a bull run amok in fields at the border and was heading for Derry City, we got it stopped in time but the British Army were ready to shoot it if it got too close to Shantallow.

Was it a Protestant or a Catholic bull ?

Alf Stewart. · 06-07-2016 04:36PM

Anyone know where in monaghan this took place?

Fcukin price of beef these days is shockin.

endacl · 06-07-2016 04:38PM

Joe prim wrote: »

Was it a Protestant or a Catholic bull ?

That would be an ecumoonical matter.

06-07-2016 04:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Huh?

There is nothing new in that. Who else would shoot animals?

A Vet. Cows have weird heads (I think that's the veterinary term), which has something to do with bony cavities, and you have to be very careful about where to apply a bolt, otherwise you end up causing a lot of unnecessary pain.

It shouldn't have been difficult to catch these animals and kill them humanely with veterinary assistance. It's a farm in Monaghan, not the wild west.

Having said that, coming from a farm myself, I'd be raging if there were TB reactors coming through gaps onto our place. But the first question I'd be asking, is what kind of incompetent so-and-so can't round up a few heifers and get them back into a yard?

The Backwards Man · 06-07-2016 04:38PM

Joe prim wrote: »

Was it a Protestant or a Catholic bull ?

When you have a raging bull charging towards you, you don't pause to ask him his thoughts on transubstantiation

Mardy Bum · 06-07-2016 04:39PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Anyone know where in monaghan this took place?

Fcukin price of beef these days is shockin.

Carrick. There are parts of Monaghan that would be considered bandit country. This has dodgy written all over it.

Mr. CooL ICE · 06-07-2016 04:40PM

Those soldiers showed no emoootion

tayto lover · 06-07-2016 04:46PM

Worst story i ever herd. The media will milk this for all it's worth.

feargale · 06-07-2016 04:46PM

It's all bull.

Army "called in to shoot cows over debt dispute"

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