This country is turning very right wing....

gandalf wrote: »

I actually disagree totally with the OP. This country has always been Centre Right and if anything is moving more towards the mild left. I grew up in the 70's & 80's and the country has come on leaps and bounds since those times.

The change is the extremities of both sides are capable of getting their voices heard these days whereas in the past they would have had a very limited reach.

Is Ireland a better country than it was 30-40 years ago, absolutely. What I find interesting is the increasing throwing around of labels by some on both sides of the political spectrum rather than actually debating and defending their relative positions.

I'm like a lot of people in Ireland. I hold some more right leaning views but also left leaning on other issues. I do firmly believe that the whole political system in Ireland needs to be overhauled especially with regard to the way we elect our National Representatives.

Grayson wrote: »

That's not what it is. People have no problem with someone being held accountable for their actions. Islamaphobia is where people think something bad about someone just because they are muslim. The reason that these phrases exist is because there is a lot of politically motivated action against Muslims. In Germany there's a political party against them. In the US there's a presidential candidate who says they should be banned from entering the US. It's not wrong to say that a Muslim who's done something wrong should be punished, it's wrong to preemptively punish someone when they've done nothing wrong except be a Muslim.

Meanwhile people like Trump who are actively agitating against innocent people claim that it's the pc left who are making a hoopla.

Eramen wrote: »

This isn't the 1990's anymore, I don't know why people keep acting as if it still was, because Europe has changed, it has simply moved on from the de facto / dominant neo-liberal policies. Such politics are now regarded as an abject failure by the masses and increasingly too by academics. The left still have not realised this fact. They don't understand how demographics work.

On the other hand the right are capitalising on the legitimate concerns of the people including; mass-immigration, national tax burdens, the EU superstate, obtuse social polices, SJW culture, etc.

The left have instead chosen to live in an incoherent fantasy and feel the need to continually berate anybody who refuses to tow the establishment line. The right are the new counter-culture, and there is no such thing as young liberals anymore. That says it all. We are living through a new political era.

JustTheOne wrote: »

I think a lot of people are confused in this country.

I have had to remind a good few sf supporters that they are a party advocating open borders as this is what the left is about.

They couldn't believe it.

Most of the we can't look after our own brigade don't understand the left stands for open borders yet they follow sf/AAA PBP with such passion.

Confused people.

JustTheOne wrote: »

Elaborate?

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Elements of the Far Left are for open borders. Take the the marxist group 'No Borders' for instance.