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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #5792
    Rakish Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Rakish Paddy


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    I wouldn't care if CK himself gave me a letter of safety I wouldn't have been near that place.

    I think Gary Hutch is non-living proof that a guarantee of safety from the Kinahans doesn't mean a whole lot.


  • #5793
    Simon2015
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    Take2Sean wrote: »
    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/latest-feud-victim-was-longtime-member-of-provisional-ira-34852194.html

    Another IRA drug dealer exposed. Its amazing that we still have people claiming that the IRA are not involved in the drug trade.


  • #5794
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    I would find it be to bizarre for it not to have anything to do with the feud, The unfortunate man was being blamed rightly or wrongly on being part of a gang that tried to attack the red cow when a boxing match was going on, and many kinahan members were inside.

    As he was well-versed in gangland mentality and he just got shot six months ago, With current paranoid state of the underworld at the moment, wtf was he doing going to his wife's business in a kinahan area.

    I wouldn't care if CK himself gave me a letter of safety I wouldn't have been near that place.

    gardai have proof he was in a north inner city pub at the time of the attempted shooting at the red cow unless the kinahans thought he was involved somehow in a logistical manner.The gunman at the red cow was wearing a wig so its only logical the kinahans blamed two bald men for it lol


  • #5795
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    a close associate of gerry hutch from county monaghan was released last week after been questioned over providing back up to the regency hit team, right at the bottom of the article

    www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/kinahan-cartel-warn-possible-trial-witnesses-with-bullet-in-the-head


  • #5796
    SimonLynch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭SimonLynch


    Shutters up and lights on in the Sunset House earlier today. Didn't look like it was open for business though.


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  • #5797
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    Another IRA drug dealer exposed. Its amazing that we still have people claiming that the IRA are not involved in the drug trade.

    Without derailing this thread

    DD was kicked out of the Provo's for activities not condoned by the Pira republican movement.

    Anybody that looks at the Provo's over the years will find that for the vast majority they were not involved in the drugs trade and anyone that was, was expelled some with server punishment.

    The only connection with drugs in that article is probably that Jim cussak is on them himself as he is way out there in space with his ramblings every week, imo he is the worst of a very bad lot of crime journalists in this country.


  • #5798
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    gardai have proof he was in a north inner city pub at the time of the attempted shooting at the red cow unless the kinahans thought he was involved somehow in a logistical manner.The gunman at the red cow was wearing a wig so its only logical the kinahans blamed two bald men for it lol

    Well his name must have come up very quickly after the attempt as it was two days later on a Sunday he was shot, with the attack being on the Friday, and one week later the other lad, supposedly the driver was shot dead to.


  • #5799
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Speaking to a relative of the deceased who says this stuff is barely anything to do with the feud and more to do with an argument in a pub. Anyone any further scope on that?

    Its not the first more personal killing to be put down as feud related for sensational reasons.


  • #5800
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    Well his name must have come up very quickly after the attempt as it was two days later on a Sunday he was shot, with the attack being on the Friday, and one week later the other lad, supposedly the driver was shot dead to.

    i reckon his name must of popped up quick enough but the cartel are known to shoot first and ask questions later if his name was floating around criminal circles as been involved the cartel would want him killed straight away to send a message out that their not to be messed with. kearns was actually killed a month later around new years but still was a quick response its just like the failed hit on greg lynch the response was immediate they dont let things lie at all


  • #5801
    Simon2015
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    Without derailing this thread

    DD was kicked out of the Provo's for activities not condoned by the Pira republican movement.

    Anybody that looks at the Provo's over the years will find that for the vast majority they were not involved in the drugs trade and anyone that was, was expelled some with server punishment.

    The only connection with drugs in that article is probably that Jim cussak is on them himself as he is way out there in space with his ramblings every week, imo he is the worst of a very bad lot of crime journalists in this country.


    So the IRA is against drugs ? but at the same time have no problem "taxing" drug dealers:rolleyes:


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  • #5802
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    So the IRA is against drugs ? but at the same time have no problem "taxing" drug dealers:rolleyes:

    CAB. ;)


  • #5803
    HarryStuby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭HarryStuby


    tomofson wrote: »
    Its not the first more personal killing to be put down as feud related for sensational reasons.

    Are you referring to the argument over parking the car or the job done in Meath?


  • #5804
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    HarryStuby wrote: »
    Are you referring to the argument over parking the car or the job done in Meath?

    Funnily enough I actually thought of both.


  • #5805
    blue4ever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    Sunset Hse: I was told that someone had taken over the lease and it was opening today (Monday). And just and aside Clonliffe hse in liquidation - nothing to do with the shootings - but cant have been great for trade.


  • #5806
    2RockMountain
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    Take2Sean wrote: »
    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/latest-feud-victim-was-longtime-member-of-provisional-ira-34852194.html

    This is the first time Mansfield has been publicly named as being involved in drugs, right?


  • #5807
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    2RockMountain wrote: »
    This is the first time Mansfield has been publicly named as being involved in drugs, right?

    There was millions worth of hard drugs seized from a plane in his airport. I think the plane belonged to him but chartered to someone else. The plane had travelled from Belgium if I recall.

    Mansfield was not convicted of anything in relation to it though. It was a good few years ago.


  • #5808
    2RockMountain
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    pablo128 wrote: »
    There was millions worth of hard drugs seized from a plane in his airport. I think the plane belonged to him but chartered to someone else. The plane had travelled from Belgium if I recall.

    Mansfield was not convicted of anything in relation to it though. It was a good few years ago.

    He was never charged with anything, iirc.


  • #5809
    HarryStuby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭HarryStuby


    tomofson wrote: »
    Funnily enough I actually thought of both.

    Could well be, either way the cartel boss man is paying the trigger men.


  • #5810
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,771 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    2RockMountain wrote: »
    This is the first time Mansfield has been publicly named as being involved in drugs, right?

    I think its been an open secret about Jim Mansfields involvement in drugs but that article is the first time I've seen it in print and also linking him to the Kinahan cartel.
    Douglas was closely associated with the IRA 'unit' in Dublin which was working for the then major heroin and cocaine supplier in the state, the 'businessman' and property speculator, Jim Mansfield.

    Mansfield, who died in 2014, was importing drugs through Weston Aerodrome in Lucan, which he bought through the profits of drugs money laundering and his considerable legitimate profits from successful property development.
    Read more: Latest gun murder in Dublin: Criminal was victim of ruthless double-cross outside wife's shop

    The drugs were being supplied by the Kinahan operation in Spain and Belgium. The Garda Special Branch had for years known of the connections between Mansfield/Kinahan and the Provo smugglers, who adapted their arms importation routes seamlessly to drugs importation in the 1990s.
    Garda sources said that the senior IRA finance officer, Joe Cahill, one of Gerry Adams's mentors, called at Mansfield's home on the last Friday of each month to collect 'protection' money for the 'movement' - at the same time the Provos claimed to be fighting the "scourge" of drugs in inner city Dublin.


  • #5811
    Rakish Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Rakish Paddy


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    I think its been an open secret about Jim Mansfields involvement in drugs but that article is the first time I've seen it in print and also linking him to the Kinahan cartel.

    This article linked him to the Kinahan Cartel and Gerry Hutch, as well as a whole load of others:
    http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/mansfield-laundered-cash-for-criminals


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  • #5812
    Simon2015
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    The IRA have been using drug money to fund their operations for many years.

    It's laughable when they claim to be anti drugs yet one of their chief "fundraisers" was up to his neck in drugs.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/dublin-shooting-victim-key-figure-in-iras-finance-wing-34853429.html


    Dublin shooting victim 'key figure in IRA's finance wing'

    The latest Dublin gangland feud victim, David Douglas, was a key figure in the 'finance' wing of the IRA, according to sources.

    The 55-year-old father of one was approached by a lone male gunman and shot in the head and chest on Bridgefoot Street, in the Liberties area of Dublin's south inner city, shortly after 4pm on Friday.

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    Douglas was an 'active service unit' (ASU) volunteer with the Provisional IRA employed in 'fund raising' for the organisation from the early 1980s.

    He was caught by gardai during a robbery of a post office in Tallaght in which he fired a rifle at a garda. He received a 12-year sentence for attempted murder.

    He was closely associated with the Dublin IRA group which transformed from a 'Concerned Parents' movement, which protested against drug dealers in the inner city, to extorting money from drug dealers before moving full-time into the trade itself.

    He was sentenced to five years' imprisonment for possession with intent to supply €562,000 worth of cocaine in April 2008.

    It is believed Douglas was targeted as he walked to his wife Yumei's shop, Shoestown, after a family funeral earlier in the day. He was taken to St James's Hospital, and later pronounced dead.
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    Gardai are investigating whether the murder is linked to the bitter feud between the Kinahan cartel and Hutch mob.

    Douglas was associated with the IRA unit in Dublin which worked for the then major heroin and cocaine supplier in the state, 'businessman' and property speculator, Jim Mansfield.

    Mansfield, who died in 2014, was importing drugs through Weston Aerodrome in Lucan, which he bought from the profits of drugs money laundering and his considerable legitimate profits from property development.

    The drugs were supplied by the Kinahan operation in Spain and Belgium. The Garda Special Branch had for years known of connections between Mansfield/Kinahan and the Provo smugglers, who adapted their arms importation routes to drugs importation in the 1990s.

    Garda sources said senior IRA finance officer Joe Cahill, one of Gerry Adams' mentors, called at Mansfield's home on the last Friday of each month to collect protection money for the 'movement' - when the Provos claimed to be fighting the "scourge" of drugs in Dublin.

    Hours after Douglas was shot, a man posted a message on the Shoestown shop's Facebook page calling him "drug dealing scum".

    Ms Douglas took to Facebook to respond: "I don't know what to say. Are you ... another evil come to us?"

    Last night, she shared a message for her late husband, writing: "Hiya Dathi, just want say something. I know you must be somewhere, maybe sat on the sofa, I try to see you there, and say good night, as normal".


  • #5813
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Amazing how Jim Cusack is able to have all this knowledge about the latest victim so soon after he has passed away. Would it be that dead men can't sue?


  • #5814
    Simon2015
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Amazing how Jim Cusack is able to have all this knowledge about the latest victim so soon after he has passed away. Would it be that dead men can't sue?

    Its a matter of public record that Douglas got done for having over half a million worth of coke.

    Yet we have people claiming that the IRA have nothing to do with drugs:rolleyes:


  • #5815
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    "Joe Cahill, one of Gerry Adams's mentors, called at Mansfield's home on the last Friday of each month to collect 'protection' money for the 'movement"

    If the Garda knew this was happening at the same time every month why did they not do something? I think some of Cusack's stories about the provos have a Jackanory element to them.


  • #5816
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    Its a matter of public record that Douglas got done for having over half a million worth of coke.

    Yet we have people claiming that the IRA have nothing to do with drugs:rolleyes:

    Was he in The IRA when he was done for drugs?


  • #5817
    Simon2015
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Was he in The IRA when he was done for drugs?

    He wasn't in the salvation army that's for sure:pac:


  • #5818
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    He wasn't in the salvation army that's for sure:pac:

    Is that a yes or no?


  • #5819
    Simon2015
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Is that a yes or no?

    Once you join the IRA your in it for life.


  • #5820
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    Once you join the IRA your in it for life.

    Really? I think you need to read up a bit on history and politics. You statement is patently false. You're not correct.


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  • #5821
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    2RockMountain wrote: »
    This is the first time Mansfield has been publicly named as being involved in drugs, right?
    pablo128 wrote: »
    There was millions worth of hard drugs seized from a plane in his airport. I think the plane belonged to him but chartered to someone else. The plane had travelled from Belgium if I recall.

    Mansfield was not convicted of anything in relation to it though. It was a good few years ago.

    The independent seem to have been following it for some time.....

    mansfield-jet-trafficking-led-by-former-ira-activist

    no-drugs-in-my-business-billionaire

    jim-mansfield-jnr-we-are-not-involved-in-organised-crime-we-are-not-drug-dealers

    pictured-businessman-mansfield-and-the-feared-gangland-criminal

    and

    mansfield-laundered-cash-for-criminals


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