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Mart reports for Store Trade 2016.

  • 28-06-2016 12:46PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭


    A thread where people can discuss the Store lamb trade which is starting up now,feel free to throw in factory lamb quotes/prices as well as they inevitably affect Store trade.
    Few imponderables at moment are how if at all Brexit will hit lamb trade south of border?,will the very heavy rain a lot of us are suffering bring out lambs earlier than usual?....with Cattle dear at the moment will men up the country with early after grass after the good growth spurt buy store lambs earlier than usual?

    Based in Mayo myself,any store lambs I see around me(including my own)...are not just as strong as other years after the very tough month of April ewes went through...is this also the case nationwide...I would imagine so....



    Discuss😀


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    blessington today(from their website)
    Posted on 28/06/2016 by

    1787 Sheep on offer. All types better by €2 to €4 per head on last week.
    Butcher Lambs €111 to €117 or €67 to €77 over €/kg
    Factory Lambs €98 to €110 or €60 to €73 over €/kg
    Store Lambs €73 to €96 or €40 to €54 over €/kg
    Fat Ewes €96 to €116 per head
    Feeding Ewes €66 to €92 per head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    ganmo wrote: »
    blessington today(from their website)
    Posted on 28/06/2016 by

    1787 Sheep on offer. All types better by 2 to 4 per head on last week.
    Butcher Lambs 111 to 117 or 67 to 77 over /kg
    Factory Lambs 98 to 110 or
    60 to 73 over /kg
    Store Lambs 73 to 96 or 40 to 54 over /kg
    Fat Ewes 96 to 116 per head
    Feeding Ewes 66 to 92 per head

    Excellent post Ganmo...the type of thing that is useful...did you just cut and paste that from their site?...I'm worse than useless at that craic:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Ard_MC


    Great idea, trying to decide what to do with them myself this year. Store trade usually with me. But tempted to keep a few of the strongest and try the factory or butcher trade with them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Thanks for starting this thread.

    We're looking for store lambs at the moment and it's great to get a sense of the price and what fellas are thinking too!

    Was dependent on the Journal and trying to find different websites.

    If it helps, we paid €87 for 37kg (€50 with weight) on 8th and 15th August last year. This was in New Ross, Wexford.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Thanks for starting this thread.

    We're looking for store lambs at the moment and it's great to get a sense of the price and what fellas are thinking too!

    Was dependent on the Journal and trying to find different websites.

    If it helps, we paid €87 for 37kg (€50 with weight) on 8th and 15th August last year. This was in New Ross, Wexford.

    If I may be so bold as to ask how you got on with them?

    Bought for 87 in August
    When were they sold, and what did they make?

    Just interested to hear how people got on...

    I think store lambs seem easier money than may be the case. ;)
    I guess as with all things with sheep, its down to small profit per lamb, so need big numbers to make any real money...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    If I may be so bold as to ask how you got on with them?

    Bought for 87 in August
    When were they sold, and what did they make?

    Just interested to hear how people got on...

    I think store lambs seem easier money than may be the case. ;)
    I guess as with all things with sheep, its down to small profit per lamb, so need big numbers to make any real money...

    And f you lose one it takes 10 more to bring you back to where you started!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    If I may be so bold as to ask how you got on with them?

    Bought for 87 in August
    When were they sold, and what did they make?

    Just interested to hear how people got on...

    I think store lambs seem easier money than may be the case. ;)
    I guess as with all things with sheep, its down to small profit per lamb, so need big numbers to make any real money...

    And f you lose one it takes 10 more to bring you back to where you started!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Willfarman wrote: »
    And f you lose one it takes 10 more to bring you back to where you started!

    Suppose that's the difference with home bred stock, you loose 1 and it's only your one time and effort you wasted. Bit harder to accept if it's something you paid good money for, such as a store at €80 or hogget at €160.

    But your right Will, the minute their finished get them out the gate fast in case one decided to go south, cause you'd never make it up again.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    If I may be so bold as to ask how you got on with them?

    Bought for 87 in August
    When were they sold, and what did they make?

    Just interested to hear how people got on...

    I think store lambs seem easier money than may be the case. ;)
    I guess as with all things with sheep, its down to small profit per lamb, so need big numbers to make any real money...

    We're only starting back with sheep so buying the stores was an early step last year.

    We sold them in early Dec (don't have exact date in front of me) for an average of €117. Gave them some concentrate for last 2 weeks but no more than 100g/head as they didn't seem to be that interested in it. Other expenses were blackleg vaccination and our own costs (transport, labour, % of fertiliser bill)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Ard_MC


    Thanks for starting this thread.

    We're looking for store lambs at the moment and it's great to get a sense of the price and what fellas are thinking too!

    Was dependent on the Journal and trying to find different websites.

    If it helps, we paid €87 for 37kg (€50 with weight) on 8th and 15th August last year. This was in New Ross, Wexford.


    You would get them cheaper if you could source them in the North west/ west! But then you have to haul them. Suppose depends on numbers of stores you were buying.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Ard_MC wrote: »
    You would get them cheaper if you could source them in the North west/ west! But then you have to haul them. Suppose depends on numbers of stores you were buying.

    Any idea how much a lorry-full (50?) would cost to get down to the South-East from there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Any idea how much a lorry-full (50?) would cost to get down to the South-East from there?

    would ya fit 50ish in a tri axle trailer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    ganmo wrote: »
    would ya fit 50ish in a tri axle trailer?

    Handy. Be a little tight in a 12ft for a long distance drive but I do it regularly enough from mart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Ard_MC


    Any idea how much a lorry-full (50?) would cost to get down to the South-East from there?

    Think the lorry full, you would be looking at a few 100 lambs. (i could be wrong on that number!) But use to be charged €2 a lamb from Donegal to Hacketstown when the factory was going. A haulier would pick up from ppl in the area and deliver to the factory. (Had to be full loads) Been a few years since I sent lambs like this tho.

    Any dealers in your area, sourcing lambs in the west/north west?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    We had a few torrential rain showers today,the poor ewes and lambs are spending most of their time standing under hedges looking for shelter this week!....
    Are there many people showing store lambs yet to get them out of the rice paddy fields?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    Sold 13 lambs - 44kgs well fleshed €100. Stopped feeding them about 3 weeks ago...not worth finishing them with nuts. Only a few left now so they can have whatever grass they can find:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Was in Manorhamilton mart last night,wasn't showing lambs but trade was fairly good for store lambs.Overall quality of lambs was mixed but the wet weather had lambs very battered looking.Saw nice Suffolk stores,37 kg make 83 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Tuesday's report from blessington

    I'm tempted to sell some stores at those prices but then again we've plenty of grass
    2046 Sheep on offer. Fat sheep that little harder sold, very lively trade for store sheep.

    Butcher Lambs €106 to €112 or €66 to €72 over €/kg
    Factory Lambs €95 to €106 or €55 to €65 over €/kg
    Store Lambs €80 to €93 or €40 to €53 over €/kg
    Fat Ewes €95 to €120 per head
    Feeding Ewes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭kk.man


    The prices currently been paid for stores is completely unjustified. There is little or no margin on it for the finisher especially if the factory price drops (which it will). Fools and their money.....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I'm inclined to agree with you kk.man - way too much being paid for store lambs.

    I read in the Journal that the high price of beef stores was driving farmers to buy store lambs instead but this seems a bit overly simple to me. I don't know if it's that easy to switch between the two from one year to the next.

    Anyway, with beef prices dropping post-Brexit maybe lads will go back to beef stores again?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I'm inclined to agree with you kk.man - way too much being paid for store lambs.

    I read in the Journal that the high price of beef stores was driving farmers to buy store lambs instead but this seems a bit overly simple to me. I don't know if it's that easy to switch between the two from one year to the next.

    Anyway, with beef prices dropping post-Brexit maybe lads will go back to beef stores again?

    They better drop in price or you won't see me buying a lamb this year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    I'd prefer to buy based on the estimated factory lamb price next spring as opposed to a price driven by what beef is making now. Same thing happened two years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭murrak123


    102e for well fleshed 45kg texel lambs in elphin tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Sold forward store lambs in Dowra yesterday,Suffolk x ram lambs around 39kg estimitated weight made 86euro,Suffolk x ram lambs,35 kg roughly made 78 euro(all twins).Well bred,healthy lambs.Trade was lively with plenty of buyers around.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Plenty stores in New Ross on Saturday. 30-33kg were making €75-80. 40kg up were making over €100.

    Seemed to be plenty sellers but not too many buyers for lighter ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭DJ98


    What's the ideal/best weight to buy/sell store lambs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,292 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Just a few prices from Carrigallen tonight.

    13 @ 28kg, 69 Euro. (rams)
    3 @27kg, 60 euro (rams)
    5 @30kg, 62 euro
    5 @17kg, 40 euro
    3 @20kg, 49 euro
    10 @30kg, 69 euro

    Heavier lots:
    4 @46kg, 96 Euro
    14 @42kg, 85 euro
    8 @48kg, 99 euro
    12 @ 40kg, 82 euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    6 quid?? Must of been shocking bad!

    Factories now paying to 21.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Just a few prices from Carrigallen tonight.

    13 @ 28kg, 69 Euro. (rams)
    3 @27kg, 60 euro (rams)
    5 @30kg, 62 euro
    5 @17kg, 40 euro
    3 @20kg, 49 euro
    10 @30kg, 69 euro

    Heavier lots:
    4 @46kg, 96 Euro
    14 @42kg, 85 euro
    8 @48kg, 99 euro
    12 @ 40kg, 82 euro
    We're the light lambs Mountain bred?
    Saw only 2 weeks ago pets @ 25kg making €60


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,292 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Farrell wrote: »
    We're the light lambs Mountain bred?
    Saw only 2 weeks ago pets @ 25kg making €60

    Some Speckle faced. No horney's.


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