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Explosions and gunfire at Istanbul airport

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  • #152
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Two terrorist attacks by two separate groups? What in the **** is happening?

    I would ask the same question. Is something more profound afoot? I read yesterday that Erdogan had sent a letter to Moscow (to Putin) apologising for the shooting down of the Russian military plane and killing of the Russian pilot. He expressed that he want to normalise relations between Ankara and Moscow and also pay compensation to the family of the dead airman:

    https://www.rt.com/news/348562-putin-erdogan-turkey-pilot/


  • #153
    HensVassal
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    getzls wrote: »
    This is partly the reason people voted to leave the EU.
    Staying in would have caused easier access to the UK of terrorism

    What kind of inane statement is that?


  • #154
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Delta2113 wrote: »
    Vincent Browne said we are partly to blame for this because U.S. use of Shannon Airport - I am not joking.

    He's not wrong.
    Ireland allows US planes pass through Shannon on their way to bomb these countries. The terrorist attacks are retaliation for the bombing.

    All you need to do is read this article:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/27/omars-motive/


  • #155
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Except that would mean completely ignoring the terrorist attack in the UK less than two weeks ago.

    All in all, another tragedy to lump on an increasing pile. You really have to feel for the victims' friends and families, and it's only worse in that respect to see this happen during Ramadan. Still plenty to come out on it, but it does seem to have a strong whiff of ISIS or Al Qaeda about it at this point.

    And to think that the US and Saudi Arabia are funding ISIS and Al-Qaeda currently.


  • #156
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can you imagine being the taxi driver that transported them there? Unless they were involved in it, then they unknowingly and innocently assisted in a massacre.

    Oh FFS :rolleyes:

    So did the guy who sold the terrorists their coats.

    *facepalm*


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  • #157
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    smash wrote: »
    Why are you replying to someone who was perma-banned and then closed his account?

    I replied to him before I noticed he was kicked out. What's it to you anyway?


  • #158
    [Deleted User]
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    Oh FFS :rolleyes:

    So did the guy who sold the terrorists their coats.

    *facepalm*

    The person that sold them their coats didn't transport them to the location that they carried out their massacre. Like it or not, that is probably what is going to go through that drivers head. How could it not be? Wouldn't it be going through yours?


  • #159
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    They don't do enough to distance themselves from the radicals.

    When when the world wake up and see there is a massive problem with radical Islam.

    But you think this is the wests fault, yeah sure .. like a girl who wears a short skirt deserves to be raped :rolleyes:

    What exactly are you talking about?

    That is an arrogant racist thing to say. You want to cow Muslims by demanding that they come out and condemn these attacks as if it's their duty. Fuck that! I don't see people calling for Christians to "do more" to denounce attacks on abortion clinics. Why exactly must Muslims do anything about these events?


  • #160
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It won't stop and it's not that simple

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/


    Oh God, The Atlantic.

    Do you realise that the architects of the Iraq War write for that piece of trash?


  • #161
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The person that sold them their coats didn't transport them to the location that they carried out their massacre. Like it or not, that is probably what is going to go through that drivers head. How could it not be? Wouldn't it be going through yours?

    To use your logic, the person who sold them their coats helped them conceal their damn suicide vests, didn't he? Wonder what's going through HIS head.


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  • #162
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    HensVassal wrote: »
    What exactly are you talking about?

    That is an arrogant racist thing to say. You want to cow Muslims by demanding that they come out and condemn these attacks as if it's their duty. Fuck that! I don't see people calling for Christians to "do more" to denounce attacks on abortion clinics. Why exactly must Muslims do anything about these events?


    Racist ???????

    Seriously ?


  • #163
    [Deleted User]
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    To use your logic, the person who sold them their coats helped them conceal their damn suicide vests, didn't he? Wonder what's going through HIS head.

    You really just enjoy hearing the sound of your own voice/seeing your words as you argue with people, dontcha?

    Surely you've better things to be doing?


  • #164
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Mod:

    HensVassal, calm down and stop trying to start arguments with everybody in this thread.


  • #165
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Racist ???????

    Seriously ?

    Yes......it's a thinly veiled assertion that Muslims are a distinct separate group incapable of being individuals like you or I. It probably wasn't your intention but it's as condescendingly racist as white politicians in Southern States insisting that black leaders denounce any negative actions such as a riot by black people. Why should they? It's merely a tactic to emasculate them. It's not supposed to address any problem, just a shabby trick to humiliate them.


  • #166
    Penny Tration
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    Yes......it's a thinly veiled assertion that Muslims are a distinct separate group incapable of being individuals like you or I. It probably wasn't your intention but it's as condescendingly racist as white politicians in Southern States insisting that black leaders denounce any negative actions such as a riot by black people. Why should they? It's merely a tactic to emasculate them. It's not supposed to address any problem, just a shabby trick to humiliate them.

    wtf. While i don't agree with the poster, they sure as hell didn't insinuate anything you're saying here. They want to see normal, every day Mohammad Bloggs taking a stand against radical islam, same as how many many people condemned the actions of the IRA.

    It's not racist in the slightest.


  • #167
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Just seen that video of the cop shooting the 3rd suicide bomber before he blew himself up. What a crazy feeling it must've been for the cop to walk up to the injured guy, notice the vest / belt on him, and then leg it just before the guy detonated it.

    Absolute balls of steel, he saved a lot of lives.


  • #168
    [Deleted User]
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    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Just seen that video of the cop shooting the 3rd suicide bomber before he blew himself up. What a crazy feeling it must've been for the cop to walk up to the injured guy, notice the vest / belt on him, and then leg it just before the guy detonated it.

    Absolute balls of steel, he saved a lot of lives.

    Was that the cop that shot him? I thought it was a random person that walked up, but a cop makes more sense when you consider they walked up to the terrorist.


  • #169
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Penny Tration wrote: »
    It's not racist in the slightest.
    Indeed. Muslims are not a "race" for a start. Obvious thing is obvious, but then again…

    Sadly for the ordinary Turks, Turkey is reaping what its government sowed and worse it'll likely get before it gets better. And until it gets better no way in hell should they get into the EU.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #170
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Penny Tration wrote: »
    wtf. While i don't agree with the poster, they sure as hell didn't insinuate anything you're saying here. They want to see normal, every day Mohammad Bloggs taking a stand against radical islam, same as how many many people condemned the actions of the IRA.

    It's not racist in the slightest.

    Why is the onus on Mohammad Bloggs to stand up and denounce Mohammad Psycho? There are over 1,600,000,000 Muslims in the world. Probably 1,599,990,000 of them are just ordinary everyday people who want nothing to do with violence or even politics of any kind.
    What do you want from them? An individual letter expressing their feelings? And individual YouTube clip from each of them saying "I condemn psychos" ??


  • #171
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Just seen that video of the cop shooting the 3rd suicide bomber before he blew himself up. What a crazy feeling it must've been for the cop to walk up to the injured guy, notice the vest / belt on him, and then leg it just before the guy detonated it.

    Absolute balls of steel, he saved a lot of lives.

    The cop apparently shot him to the floor and as he approached him, he saw he had a bomb attached to him and he legged it away. God knows if he survived the explosion but it looked like he got away just in time


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  • #172
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Indeed. Muslims are not a "race" for a start. Obvious thing is obvious, but then again…

    Sadly for the ordinary Turks, Turkey is reaping what its government sowed and worse it'll likely get before it gets better. And until it gets better no way in hell should they get into the EU.

    Ok, then it's prejudicial.


  • #173
    [Deleted User]
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    Manutd_4life wrote: »
    The cop apparently shot him to the floor and as he approached him, he saw he had a bomb attached to him and he legged it away. God knows if he survived the explosion but it looked like he got away just in time

    I reckon/assume he did. There was a couple of seconds between that and him running away.


  • #174
    stunmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭stunmer


    HensVassal wrote: »
    Why is the onus on Mohammad Bloggs to stand up and denounce Mohammad Psycho? There are over 1,600,000,000 Muslims in the world. Probably 1,599,990,000 of them are just ordinary everyday people who want nothing to do with violence or even politics of any kind.
    What do you want from them? An individual letter expressing their feelings? And individual YouTube clip from each of them saying "I condemn psychos" ??

    Not true

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk


  • #175
    smash
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    Why is the onus on Mohammad Bloggs to stand up and denounce Mohammad Psycho? There are over 1,600,000,000 Muslims in the world. Probably 1,599,990,000 of them are just ordinary everyday people who want nothing to do with violence or even politics of any kind.

    You think there's only 10,000 Muslim extremists in the world? Even looking at research which shows an overwhelming lack of support for ISIS, it would still lead to a figure much much higher than 10,000.


  • #176
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    HensVassal wrote: »
    Why is the onus on Mohammad Bloggs to stand up and denounce Mohammad Psycho? There are over 1,600,000,000 Muslims in the world. Probably 1,599,990,000 of them are just ordinary everyday people who want nothing to do with violence or even politics of any kind.
    What do you want from them? An individual letter expressing their feelings? And individual YouTube clip from each of them saying "I condemn psychos" ??

    Although your figures are a bit exaggerated, I 100% agree. Muslims want nothing to do with violence and these extremists who claim to be 'Muslims' are a minority that media love to put in the spotlight. Hence, so much uneducated people believe in what they hear on the news and get the wrong idea about what Islam is all about. Muslims are suffering the most from these radicalised hooligans


  • #177
    RobertKK
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    Why is the onus on Mohammad Bloggs to stand up and denounce Mohammad Psycho? There are over 1,600,000,000 Muslims in the world. Probably 1,599,990,000 of them are just ordinary everyday people who want nothing to do with violence or even politics of any kind.
    What do you want from them? An individual letter expressing their feelings? And individual YouTube clip from each of them saying "I condemn psychos" ??

    ISIS did not take over parts of Syria, Iraq and Libya with just 10,000 extremists.
    They are said to have an estimated 6,000 in Libya alone.
    Then there are the other Islamic terrorist groups.


  • #178
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭conorhal


    RobertKK wrote: »
    ISIS did not take over parts of Syria, Iraq and Libya with just 10,000 extremists.
    They are said to have an estimated 6,000 in Libya alone.
    Then there are the other Islamic terrorist groups.

    And more to the point, they couldn't control large swaiths of a country without the tacit support of a significant portion of the population.


  • #179
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,095 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    RobertKK wrote: »
    ISIS did not take over parts of Syria, Iraq and Libya with just 10,000 extremists.
    They are said to have an estimated 6,000 in Libya alone.
    Then there are the other Islamic terrorist groups.

    not to mention Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, the Taliban, the PKK, Al-Shabaab (Somalia)random hoards of nutcases going around stoning young girls to death for being raped.....

    Ban billionaires



  • #180
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭conorhal


    HensVassal wrote: »
    I would ask the same question. Is something more profound afoot? I read yesterday that Erdogan had sent a letter to Moscow (to Putin) apologising for the shooting down of the Russian military plane and killing of the Russian pilot. He expressed that he want to normalise relations between Ankara and Moscow and also pay compensation to the family of the dead airman:

    https://www.rt.com/news/348562-putin-erdogan-turkey-pilot/

    Russia banned all travel companies from selling package holidays to Turkey,and also banned charter flights...the number of visitors from Russia is down over 90% and the Russians were a significant cohort of visitors to the region. Even Erdogan knew he was about to take a popularity hit from the large cohort of Turks suffering as a result, so he had to swallow his pride.
    The Turkish tourism industry has taken a big hit lately and I suspect this bombing could really cripple it as happened in Tunisia.


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  • #181
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    HensVassal wrote: »
    Why is the onus on Mohammad Bloggs to stand up and denounce Mohammad Psycho? There are over 1,600,000,000 Muslims in the world. Probably 1,599,990,000 of them are just ordinary everyday people who want nothing to do with violence or even politics of any kind.
    What do you want from them? An individual letter expressing their feelings? And individual YouTube clip from each of them saying "I condemn psychos" ??

    I see you missed the part where I said that I didn't actually agree with the poster's post. You spoiling for a row or something?


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