Farming Chit Chat sticks it to six.

patsy_mccabe · 28-06-2016 04:01PM

davidk1394 wrote: »

It's a fairly soul destroying job

Id it off to a fine art. You pull to one side first just a little and then pull back the opposite way then to loosen in the earth. If the ground is wet it makes it a lot easier. Once you're on top of them, you only have to pull the odd one every year.

gazahayes · 28-06-2016 05:34PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Id it off to a fine art. You pull to one side first just a little and then pull back the opposite way then to loosen in the earth. If the ground is wet it makes it a lot easier. Once you're on top of them, you only have to pull the odd one every year.

Haven't had to pull one since I got sheep filled the back of a d max one day in a half acre field!!

davidk1394 · 28-06-2016 05:35PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Id it off to a fine art. You pull to one side first just a little and then pull back the opposite way then to loosen in the earth. If the ground is wet it makes it a lot easier. Once you're on top of them, you only have to pull the odd one every year.

It still doesn't make any more enjoyable haha

Odelay · 28-06-2016 06:59PM

I get a sence of satisfaction pulling them, great to see a field cleared. Do be sickened when the dormant ones turn up the following year:(

Base price · 28-06-2016 07:02PM

davidk1394 wrote: »

It's a fairly soul destroying job

I class it slightly above picking stones

whelan2 · 28-06-2016 07:03PM

Odelay wrote: »

I get a sence of satisfaction pulling them, great to see a field cleared. Do be sickened when the dormant ones turn up the following year:(

I let a fook out of me if I cant pull one or if stalk breaks :mad:

tractorporn · 28-06-2016 08:25PM

Over in England for a few days with the wife and saw a restaurant advertising premium Charolais steak this afternoon. Kinda disheartening to see considering it's considered by the factories here as just a standard product. I wonder if a scheme could be started or would we just flood the market? I did take a photo but I'm on the phone and can't get it up.

Kovu · 28-06-2016 08:29PM

tractorporn wrote: »

Over in England for a few days with the wife and saw a restaurant advertising premium Charolais steak this afternoon. Kinda disheartening to see considering it's considered by the factories here as just a standard product. I wonder if a scheme could be started or would we just flood the market? I did take a photo but I'm on the phone and can't get it up.

Cafe Rouge?

Dawn meats do one but I've never seen it being broadly advertised.-

''Charolais is one of the oldest beef breeds in the world and is exceptionally tender, full of flavour and naturally lean. Our Charolais Gold brand is a matured, select range of Charolais beef which is guaranteed to give an excellent high quality eating experience. Our experienced butchers carefully select the product and supervise the process to ensure the individual requirements of each customer are met. All of our products are packaged in a range of retail or wholesale formats ensuring complete product quality and traceability for you and your customers.

Traditional butchery techniques allied to a rigorous chilling and handling regime; result in a premium Irish beef product. All Charolais Gold commercial cuts are available on request, ensuring total flexibility for foodservice operations.''

http://www.dawnmeats.com/index.php/brands/item/338-charolais-gold

tractorporn · 28-06-2016 08:32PM

Yep outside a Cafe Rouge in Chester. It was labeled as reared by British farmers, be interesting to see if they were using Irish beef. Great to see them buying a commidity product and selling it as a premium product. Obviously I'm biased as we have a 52 bred bull at home.

whelan2 · 28-06-2016 08:33PM

tractorporn wrote: »

Yep outside a Cafe Rouge in Chester. It was labeled as reared by British farmers but I'd it's Dawn it surely couldn't be hard to replicate over here. Obviously I'm biased as we have a 52 bred bull at home.

Much talk of England's performance in the soccer?

tractorporn · 28-06-2016 08:35PM

whelan2 wrote:

Much talk of England's performance in the soccer?

They're all fairly sick alright!

Base price · 28-06-2016 08:49PM

whelan2 wrote: »

I let a fook out of me if I cant pull one or if stalk breaks :mad:

Ended on my arse many a time after a stalk breaking

Genghis Cant · 28-06-2016 08:56PM

tractorporn wrote: »

I did take a photo but I'm on the phone and can't get it up.

Too much of the old tractor porn affecting you?

tractorporn · 28-06-2016 09:04PM

Genghis Cant wrote:

Too much of the old tractor porn affecting you?

Can never have too much tractor porn! !!

Grueller · 28-06-2016 09:11PM

I said wrote: »

Nice drop of rain will make pulling ragwort a lot easier

When we were teenagers the older brother turned up.to be allergic to them. He came out like a mixo rabbit around the eyes. I never wished as much for an allergy to run in a family.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-06-2016 09:27PM

I gave a spin over to Kilkenny this morning after milking to have a gander at a ram for the coming season.

I had forgotten just how beautiful the country is on a nice day, 40 shades of green is selling us a bit short, I think:)

And there is some amount of land abandoned around the country too. Rushes the height of a tractor in places:(

davidk1394 · 28-06-2016 09:56PM

Base price wrote: »

I class it slightly above picking stones

give me picking stones any day.. when its done its done

until the father decides to give the field another run of a harrow :rolleyes:

davidk1394 · 28-06-2016 09:59PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I gave a spin over to Kilkenny this morning after milking to have a gander at a ram for the coming season.

I had forgotten just how beautiful the country is on a nice day, 40 shades of green is selling us a bit short, I think:)

And there is some amount of land abandoned around the country too. Rushes the height of a tractor in places:(

were you above in hutchesons by any chance ?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-06-2016 10:08PM

davidk1394 wrote: »

were you above in hutchesons by any chance ?

Yeah.
Do you know him?

davidk1394 · 28-06-2016 10:11PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Yeah.
Do you know him?

well i dont but the mother does. they had a few run ins in the IFA sheep committee back years ago. his brother is a sheep dealer aswell

_Brian · 28-06-2016 10:11PM

There's a question going round in my head this evening, and it's not loaded nor intended to be divisive, was talking with a small dairy farmer today (30 cows) and he was saying there needs to be more intervention to prop up milk prices.

Now, my opinion is that dairy farmers are now down to typical beef farmer profit margins, yet it's both expected and indeed is happening that powdered milk is out into intervention to prop up the price of milk.

How come the same supports aren't expected or given for beef, or as usual am I missing something really obvious.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-06-2016 10:16PM

_Brian wrote: »

There's a question going round in my head this evening, and it's not loaded nor intended to be divisive, was talking with a small dairy farmer today (30 cows) and he was saying there needs to be more intervention to prop up milk prices.

Now, my opinion is that dairy farmers are now down to typical beef farmer profit margins, yet it's both expected and indeed is happening that powdered milk is out into intervention to prop up the price of milk.

How come the same supports aren't expected or given for beef, or as usual am I missing something really obvious.

Because the off-farm benefits for the economy are much bigger with dairy v beef.

There is more employment in supply to/processing of milk than there is in beef. Iirc, twice as much but that is going back a good few years when there were more dairy farms.

Muckit · 28-06-2016 10:19PM

tractorporn wrote: »

I did take a photo but I'm on the phone and can't get it up.

Sorry to hear that!

davidk1394 · 28-06-2016 10:22PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Because the off-farm benefits for the economy are much bigger with dairy v beef.

There is more employment in supply to/processing of milk than there is in beef. Iirc, twice as much but that is going back a good few years when there were more dairy farms.

but look how many people are employed in all the meat factories alone ? for example theres 50 people working in the new Glanbia plant in Belview but there could be 100 people working in Dawn meats greannagh

CloughCasey1 · 28-06-2016 10:41PM

Muckit wrote: »

Sorry to hear that!

Good auld Muckit waiting in the bushes waiting to pounce on any unfortunate slip of the tongue/keyboard.☺

Base price · 28-06-2016 11:26PM

davidk1394 wrote: »

but look how many people are employed in all the meat factories alone ? for example theres 50 people working in the new Glanbia plant in Belview but there could be 100 people working in Dawn meats greannagh

Plus all the people working in boning factories (for minimum wage) preparing pre-packed meat for the UK supermarkets. Plus all the ancillary jobs associated with the removal, transport and processing of offal, skins, bones etc.
And don't let us forget the Dept Inspectors/Vets.

kowtow · 29-06-2016 07:50AM

_Brian wrote:

How come the same supports aren't expected or given for beef, or as usual am I missing something really obvious.

I've always assumed that it was in some part due to the limited options around labour... even if you shrink a dairy herd down to 20 or 30 you still require full time labour on a daily basis, more or less..... whereas in beef AFAIK the off farm chances might be more practical.. or perhaps it would be fairer to say that most beef guys that size would already have off farm income.

Never wrestle with pigs · 29-06-2016 03:24PM

Anyone still useing the blue book? Do I need it any more?

Prepping for bord bia inspection at the moment (thinking of dropping it because it's only jobs for the boys)

Will he need to look at the book or can I login to aggfood and will he be able to see any movements in/out of herd the last year? Thanks

_Brian · 29-06-2016 03:31PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Anyone still useing the blue book? Do I need it any more?

Prepping for bord bia inspection at the moment (thinking of dropping it because it's only jobs for the boys)

Will he need to look at the book or can I login to aggfood and will he be able to see any movements in/out of herd the last year? Thanks

Needed for medicines records isn't it ??

Base price · 29-06-2016 04:24PM

_Brian wrote: »

Needed for medicines records isn't it ??

Ran out of space for recording medicines a few years ago and now use sheets. So I suppose it is redundant if you are using Agfood online register and sheet records for medicines iykwim

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