Should Ireland leave the EU?

My name is URL · 28-06-2016 01:49AM #1

Just out of interest.

Not trying to start any political discussion here

Right now, in your opinion... should any move be made to do so?

RayM · 28-06-2016 01:50AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Right now, in your opinion... should any move be made to do so?

At 1:50am? Can't it wait until morning?

Duckworth_Luas · 28-06-2016 01:53AM

Wait until we've healed the divisions over the Garth Brooks crisis first before starting another civil war

Grayson · 28-06-2016 02:22AM

I've voted yes but now I regret it.

Old School Husqy · 28-06-2016 02:23AM

Any chance you offer your opinion op?

Mec27 · 28-06-2016 02:26AM

Proud to be European and Irish! The European Union is a wonderful thing, why get rid of it? The only thing is we need to make it more transparant and stop people like Merkel destroying our beautiful union diverse from the hills of Gweedore to Gdansk, from Malmo to Malaga from Dublin to Dubrovnik.United by diversity.

Old School Husqy · 28-06-2016 02:29AM

Mec27 wrote: »

Proud to be European and Irish! The European Union is a wonderful thing, why get rid of it? The only thing is we need to make it more transparant and stop people like Merkel destroying our beautiful union.

The EU will collapse, Merkel destroying the Union yea.

Lyaiera · 28-06-2016 02:29AM

What's the EU?

Ted111 · 28-06-2016 02:33AM

Single Market - Good
Federalism - Bad

Old School Husqy · 28-06-2016 02:35AM

The experts are riding into town.

The_Valeyard · 28-06-2016 02:36AM

A confederated EU is fine, free trade and movement is fine. Happy out.

A Federal EU, nope, nay, no. If that was the case, Ireland should leave.

topmanamillion · 28-06-2016 02:44AM

Nope.
We were a third world country before EU membership and I've no doubt we'd go right back to the gutter if we left.

Jimmy Garlic · 28-06-2016 02:45AM

Old School Husqy wrote: »

The EU will collapse, Merkel destroying the Union yea.

Started a thread earlier (now locked) regarding a Polish media outlet that got their hands on leaked documents concerning a proposal by France and Germany to fully federalise the EU.

The foreign ministers of France and Germany have proposed creating a “European superstate” limiting the powers of individual members following Britain’s referendum decision to leave the EU, Polish public broadcaster TVP Info has reported.

The document in which the proposals appear is to be presented to Visegrad Group countries meeting in Prague on Monday by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, TVP Info said, adding that the document was an "ultimatum".
TVP Info said the proposals would mean members of a superstate would in practice have no right to their own army, to a separate criminal code or a separate tax system, and would not have their own currency.
In addition, TVP Info said, member states would lose control over their own borders and procedures for admitting and relocating refugees.
Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski told TVP Info: "This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented... a lot has changed.

http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/258994,New-EU-superstate-plan%E2%80%99-causes-alarm

Jayop · 28-06-2016 02:48AM

Grayson wrote: »

I've voted yes but now I regret it.

LOL brilliant

Hazys · 28-06-2016 02:52AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Just out of interest.

Not trying to start any political discussion here

Right now, in your opinion... should any move be made to do so?

Not trying to start any political discussion just like what happened in the UK when they were asked the same question in their referendum.

Let's not inform ourselves with silly political discussion about the decision we have to make and just vote, worked well for the UK, where the reported top google searches the day after the vote were "what's the EU?", "what happens if the UK leaves the EU?".

murpho999 · 28-06-2016 02:58AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

Nope.
We were a third world country before EU membership and I've no doubt we'd go right back to the gutter if we left.

Eh, no we weren't a third world country. Perhaps you should go visit a developing country as they are now called to see the difference for yourself.

Robsweezie · 28-06-2016 03:18AM

We wouldn't have the balls to vote out.

aziz · 28-06-2016 03:24AM

We wouldn't be allowed to vote out if that is not the answer the govt wants:o

topmanamillion · 28-06-2016 03:39AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Eh, no we weren't a third world country. Perhaps you should go visit a developing country as they are now called to see the difference for yourself.

Ya I had a look at a few third world countries there.
Rampant poverty, Huge unemployment, massive emigration, religious authorities imposing their will on all......
Doesn't sound anything like 20s - 70s Ireland.

Samuri Suicide · 28-06-2016 03:47AM

I'm Irish and live in the North of Scotland.

Today I got a train to Preston to buy a car, it was an eye opener. I saw plenty of cars with English flags on them and flags outside shops. I spent some time there and none of the flags are related to the Euros. Middle and North of England have made a very clear statement on how they feel.

I voted remain.

Shenshen · 28-06-2016 08:26AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Eh, no we weren't a third world country. Perhaps you should go visit a developing country as they are now called to see the difference for yourself.

Ireland is technically still a third world country

murpho999 · 28-06-2016 08:49AM

Shenshen wrote: »

Ireland is technically still a third world country

That was due to our neutrality status, and not our economy in the traditional sense of the 'Third World'

murpho999 · 28-06-2016 08:50AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

Ya I had a look at a few third world countries there.
Rampant poverty, Huge unemployment, massive emigration, religious authorities imposing their will on all......
Doesn't sound anything like 20s - 70s Ireland.

Poverty at the levels seen in Africa today or even India did not exist in Ireland before we joined the EU.

Lollipops23 · 28-06-2016 09:07AM

We do NOT have the economic strength to make it on our own. The EU partially funded so much infrastructure in this country, as well as bailing us out when times got tough.

Ireland in the 50s and 60s was a slum- throughout the 90s we grew exponentially. Leaving the EU is out of the question.

ted1 · 28-06-2016 09:09AM

Lyaiera wrote: »

What's the EU?

It's like coppers, it helps Irish score girls who would otherwise be unattainable.

Shenshen · 28-06-2016 09:10AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Poverty at the levels seen in Africa today or even India did not exist in Ireland before we joined the EU.

Developing countries today include among others:

Argentina
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Mexico
Russian Federation
Serbia
Turkey
Ukraine

"Developing" means "mainly agricultural country that is seeking to become more advanced economically and socially". I think that definition applied to Ireland for much of the 20th century, if we're honest.

Wibbs · 28-06-2016 09:11AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Eh, no we weren't a third world country. Perhaps you should go visit a developing country as they are now called to see the difference for yourself.

+1000. That kinda ignorance about our past pisses me off TBH. I know some seem(and like) to think that Fr Ted is a documentary, but it isn't and Ireland wasn't within an asses roar of a third world country.

28-06-2016 09:13AM

Western Ireland during the 50s was pretty close, in fairness.

Wibbs · 28-06-2016 09:18AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Poverty at the levels seen in Africa today or even India did not exist in Ireland before we joined the EU.

There's no point M, the meme of Ireland being a priest ridden shítehole "in the past" is a deeply held one and it's not for much debate, no matter how you much frame it in actual facts.

I have noticed another deep vein in the Irish psyche, namely the need for an external source to help, validate and indeed lord over us. The English leave and that authority vacuum is rapidly filled by the Church, they bugger off and our new lords we tug forelocks to are in Brussels. "Rebel Irish" my swiss. We adore authoritaaaaay.

Cina · 28-06-2016 09:22AM

No - I'd rather the current and next generation be able to travel and work freely throughout Europe, just like I was, personally.

K-9 · 28-06-2016 09:28AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Eh, no we weren't a third world country. Perhaps you should go visit a developing country as they are now called to see the difference for yourself.

True, we'd our own boom in the 60's but things were pretty grim before that!

No we shouldn't leave the EU or the Euro.

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