Plain clothes/undercover Gardai

mynamejeff · 27-06-2016 10:44PM

the difference between plain clothes and undercover seems to be lost on most people.

Plain clothes arent trying to hide or blend in , they tend to be in investigative roles and therefor need to identify themselves at the outset of any interaction

Undercover or surveillance are not the same thing. they really arent going to come up and talk to you, you wont see them notice unless they want you to

riclad · 27-06-2016 11:43PM

Gardai tend to have short hair and to be tall .
so they stand out from the crowd .
detectives or special branch members drive around in unmarked cars i think they wear
suits or ordinary clothes .

Arsemageddon · 27-06-2016 11:48PM

riclad wrote: »

Gardai tend to have short hair and to be tall .
so they stand out from the crowd .
detectives or special branch members drive around in unmarked cars i think they wear
suits or ordinary clothes .

Wow, your level of insider knowledge is amazing!!!

Kirby · 27-06-2016 11:49PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I saw two on westmoreland street, only knew that they were undercover because they had blue gloves on searching two junkies. I wouldn't have guessed otherwise.

Two by two, hands of blue.

STB. · 27-06-2016 11:54PM

Two observations.

thelad95 wrote: »

Is it just me or do these always stick out like a sore thumb? I think they always try to hard to look inconspicuous. Stripy polo shirt, dunnes jeans, brown leather shoes and sunglasses like who are you trying to fool?

Was at Oxygen a few years ago and I saw a guy who I definitely thought was one. Fitted the description above, stood on his own for ages with no friends holding a pint that he didn't drink from once in the fifteen minutes we were looking at him. I've often seen a few hanging around the smoking areas in all the harcourt street nightclubs.

You need to stop smoking that stuff. There are people who shop in Dunnes, that dress like that. Not all of them are undercover coppers.

jimbis wrote: »

We always bring Walkie talkies (proper Motorola ones) to gigs and festivals

Why ?

Boater123 · 27-06-2016 11:57PM

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Wow, your level of insider knowledge is amazing!!!

Ah go easy on Riclad, maybe he ws trying to be funny or something:rolleyes:

Speedsie · 28-06-2016 12:04AM

Kirby wrote: »

Two by two, hands of blue.

Always good to see a firefly reference in a thread about the Guards!

jimbis · 28-06-2016 12:14AM

STB. wrote: »

Why ?

Mobile fones tend to not work very well at festivals (reception wise) so good walkies are excellent for finding your friends etc.

Kop On · 28-06-2016 12:16AM

When I was a young fella, did my work experience in 4th year in a Garda station in town. One of the detectives brought me out with him to dust down for a break in just off Grafton St. On the way up the road he threw some loose change in to a homeless guys cup outside McDonald's.

Later on that week, the "homeless" guy was sitting just feet away from me back in the station reviewing CCTV footage with his colleague.

That was 18 years ago. The Gardai aren't as obvious as some might think.

Esel · 28-06-2016 12:23AM

"Bring back the mockies!"

"They haven't gone away, you know....."

endacl · 28-06-2016 12:25AM

riclad wrote: »

Gardai tend to have short hair and to be tall .
so they stand out from the crowd .
detectives or special branch members drive around in unmarked cars i think they wear
suits or ordinary clothes .

I have short hair. I'm 6'4". I drive a plain silver focus. My clothes would be pretty regular.

OK. You got me. I'm so undercover even I didn't know I was a guard. You're some kinda genius. Interpol, I'm guessing?

Capt'n Midnight · 28-06-2016 12:48AM

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

If you ask him "are you a guard?" then he has to tell you or else he can't arrest you for anything. Fact. It's in the constitution.

:rolleyes:

Sure everyone knows they can't arrest you unless they are wearing an official Garda hat. Just keep an eye out for the reversible ones.

Lyaiera · 28-06-2016 01:20AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Sure everyone knows they can't arrest you unless they are wearing an official Garda hat. Just keep an eye out for the reversible ones.

Guards can't lie to you either. If they do they're the ones breaking the law and you'll be cleared of everything and they'll be convicted in the Special Criminal Court of Garda Lying.

FortySeven · 28-06-2016 01:33AM

I've been in the company of a few undercover drug squad over the years. You would never know.

Even after I was handcuffed I still thought they were joking.

mynamejeff · 28-06-2016 10:33PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

Guards can't lie to you either. If they do they're the ones breaking the law and you'll be cleared of everything and they'll be convicted in the Special Criminal Court of Garda Lying.

the sad thing is i cant tell if your being sarcastic or not SCC garda lying conviction :pac::pac:

2RockMountain · 29-06-2016 12:11PM

Kop On wrote: »

When I was a young fella, did my work experience in 4th year in a Garda station in town. One of the detectives brought me out with him to dust down for a break in just off Grafton St. On the way up the road he threw some loose change in to a homeless guys cup outside McDonald's.

Later on that week, the "homeless" guy was sitting just feet away from me back in the station reviewing CCTV footage with his colleague.

That was 18 years ago. The Gardai aren't as obvious as some might think.

Maybe he wasn't undercover at the time?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/pay-reductions-see-some-garda%C3%AD-sleeping-in-their-cars-1.2191765

TheDoc · 29-06-2016 12:38PM

Agree with OP, always stick out like a sore thumb. The hoodies like, seriously....

harry Bailey esq · 29-06-2016 03:22PM

thelad95 wrote: »

Is it just me or do these always stick out like a sore thumb?.

Nope,its not just you.Used to have great craic winding them up at raves during the 90s.A pair of them for instance once tried to get in with us one night in the Olympic ballroom,a few of our crew were knocking out brown specks every weekend so we were well wide to the eejits. One mate with a serious penchant for divilment was giving them shoulder massages for the 'rushes' and the two of them were hamming it up pretending to be out of the head like the rest of us.Anyways yer man got an empty water bottle from the floor, disappeared for a minute, and came back with a full bottle of piss with the lid only slightly twisted on.He then proceeded to shake piss over both of their heads an the two gob****es were rubbing it all over their faces until the female of this dynamic duo realised what the score was.It was at this point we turned around and told them with much laughter to f*ck off and change their clothes, Kevin st station is right over there.Good times

Ted111 · 29-06-2016 03:36PM

A little tip to help spot the elusive undercover is if you get shot in the face by them you can be pretty sure you're dealing with one.

mynamejeff · 29-06-2016 05:57PM

Ted111 wrote: »

A little tip to help spot the elusive undercover is if you get shot in the face by them you can be pretty sure you're dealing with one.

to be fair 99.9 percent of people shooting other people arent gardai and the ones shooting people in the face are doing it by accident apparently

Nemesis...... · 29-06-2016 06:59PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

to be fair 99.9 percent of people shooting other people arent gardai and the ones shooting people in the face are doing it by accident apparently

But 100% of people shooting other people in the face,accidently are Gardai,funny that

Ted111 · 29-06-2016 07:04PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

to be fair 99.9 percent of people shooting other people arent gardai and the ones shooting people in the face are doing it by accident apparently

It's still a good pointer.

mynamejeff · 29-06-2016 07:08PM

Ted111 wrote: »

It's still a good pointer.

im sure the guy felt good about recognizing the non undercover cop in the millisecond between the gun going off and his face coming off alright

Ted111 · 29-06-2016 09:57PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

im sure the guy felt good about recognizing the non undercover cop in the millisecond between the gun going off and his face coming off alright

That's a good point. I see the error of my ways now.

Strong Life in Dublin · 29-06-2016 09:58PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

People like you wreck my head! For a few decades, I've had people accuse me of being an undercover Garda at so many festivals and gigs that I really should have started confiscating drugs.

I've been to every Electric Picnic and I think last year was the first time that nobody insinuated or accused me of being undercover. Strangely enough, it was also the first year that I wasn't drinking alcohol.

Sometimes I don't mind, like a couple who were rolling some sort of cigarette at their tent door and as I passed, one of them said in a very false, stilted way "Oh, quick! Put that illegal cigarette away!". I thought it was funny anyway...

Then you have other type. "You're a cop! Ha ha. I spotted that you're an undercover cop!". Sometimes, I wouldn't acknowledge them, but if I did and denied it, I'd hear "Ha! It's obvious that you're undercover. Just admit it!" This has happened a lot.

I would just like to use this occasion to confirm that I have never been a member of the Garda Síochána, and I have never been a security guard. (I get that the odd time).

You must have a big culchie head

Sand · 29-06-2016 11:01PM

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

Nope,its not just you.Used to have great craic winding them up at raves during the 90s.A pair of them for instance once tried to get in with us one night in the Olympic ballroom,a few of our crew were knocking out brown specks every weekend so we were well wide to the eejits. One mate with a serious penchant for divilment was giving them shoulder massages for the 'rushes' and the two of them were hamming it up pretending to be out of the head like the rest of us.Anyways yer man got an empty water bottle from the floor, disappeared for a minute, and came back with a full bottle of piss with the lid only slightly twisted on.He then proceeded to shake piss over both of their heads an the two gob****es were rubbing it all over their faces until the female of this dynamic duo realised what the score was.It was at this point we turned around and told them with much laughter to f*ck off and change their clothes, Kevin st station is right over there.Good times

So you assaulted two Gardai and they just walked off and let it go?

Is any of that story true?

Badly Drunk Boy · 29-06-2016 11:12PM

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

You must have a big culchie head

Well, I don't speak like a bleedin', bleedin' skanger, if that's what you mean. I think my main affliction is that I'm 6'5". I've never worn a polo shirt, jeans from Penny's (or Dunnes), or a hoodie. Typically, I'd wear a plain black shirt, black jeans, and black size 13 steel toecap boots.

I don't even drive a veh-hickle!

enricoh · 29-06-2016 11:17PM

Was on a stag a few years ago with a mate from school who had joined the cops. Half of us were old mates n half his cop mates. The lads were all undercover boys n had all the skangery hairdos, etc.

I woulda sold most of them yokes no bother! And that was without the tracksuits n air max,s !

harry Bailey esq · 30-06-2016 12:24AM

Sand wrote: »

So you assaulted two Gardai and they just walked off and let it go?

Is any of that story true?

No sand,i didn't. My mate threw his piss over the pair of clowns. It happened in the mid 90s,its true.

Esel · 30-06-2016 12:35AM

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

No sand,i didn't. My mate threw his piss over the pair of clowns. It happened in the mid 90s,its true.

So, the mockies took the piss?

Plain clothes/undercover Gardai

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