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Young mother with 4-month old baby on the streets

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Let them eat cake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    eviltwin wrote: »
    So.....we just leave them to sleep on the street then?

    Why not set an example to her and her like.

    If she can't provide a home the child should be taken of her and she can go about correcting her life and becoming a contributor to society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭selastich2


    Will the child be fostered until they sort themselves out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    I'm sure they had accommodation.

    The council will never turn you down. They will always put you up somewhere.

    But people like this make the situation more drastic to get themselves ahead for a house.

    Why don't you take them in if you're so concerned?

    If you want so badly to get ahead for a house in the same way they did, why don't you go get yours?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Go on then tell me?

    I can guess. Both unemployed, got pregnant, want a free house , weren't getting it so went homeless to speed up the process and play the bleeding heart brigade like puppets.

    All nicely funded by hard working tax payers crippled by mortgage payments each month.

    Ah, so you're paying a mortgage. Is this why you're coming across as cold and bitter.

    A free house? So they go out and get knocked up.

    Having a baby is the last thing you think of at 18 years old.

    I'm sure they would rather drink they're dole money instead.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Speedwell wrote: »
    If you want so badly to get ahead for a house in the same way they did, why don't you go get yours?

    Because I have respect dignity pride and I don't ask what my country can do for me but what can I do for my country.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JustTheOne wrote: »

    The council will never turn you down. They will always put you up somewhere.

    I was told personally by a friend who works on Parkgate Street in the homeless person's unit, about a woman presenting as homeless on a particular evening.

    She had one child in a buggy, and another small child by the hand. They had no place to stay, and the council were out of beds, so my friend had to inform her that if she still had no place to sleep that night, to take her two children to a Garda station, and there to sleep in a cell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Saipanne wrote: »
    To all the outraged people. Do you have a spare room? Use that giant heart of yours to perform a truly heroic deed. Take them in. Feed them. Let them sleep under stars, no more!

    You can do it.

    :)

    The migrants took all those spare rooms, sadly. It was FaceBook's fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    I'm sure they had accommodation.

    The council will never turn you down. They will always put you up somewhere.

    But people like this make the situation more drastic to get themselves ahead for a house.

    Why don't you take them in if you're so concerned?

    I don't have a spare room, if I did I would have no problem helping someone out. I've done it in the past. I think you're attitude stinks. I was in a similar situation to that girl in my teens. With state support I was able to get things together. I'm a tax payer and a home owner now so people can change things but they need help first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    I was told personally by a friend who works on Parkgate Street in the homeless person's unit, about a woman presenting as homeless on a particular evening.

    She had one child in a buggy, and another small child by the hand. They had no place to stay, and the council were out of beds, so my friend had to inform her that if she still had no place to sleep that night, to take her two children to a Garda station, and there to sleep in a cell.

    Ive plenty of those friends with stories too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Because I have respect dignity pride and I don't ask what my country can do for me but what can I do for my country.

    You ask what you can do for your country, with a sneer and a whinge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    The migrants took all those spare rooms, sadly. It was FaceBook's fault.

    How are Geldofs clan doing? I can only presume he followed through on his pledge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭selastich2


    I think it should be said if their parents also are being housed by the local authority and if this is the cashing in their inheritance, so to speak, or dowry if you prefer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Because I have respect dignity pride and I don't ask what my country can do for me but what can I do for my country.

    And what pray tell have you done for your country other than look down on those less fortunate than you?

    Cause it sounds to me like you have an inability to see anything other than through your own narrow life experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Ah well.

    I'm speaking what many are thinking.

    20 billion a year on welfare. No wonder health education etc are suffering.

    Most of it on pensions and child benefit which not a lot can be done about without major political implications. The dole is about 1.8 billion so about 8% of the social welfare budget the way people go on here you would swear we spending 20 billion on the dole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Why not set an example to her and her like.

    If she can't provide a home the child should be taken of her and she can go about correcting her life and becoming a contributor to society.

    Does that apply to anyone who finds themselves in this situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭groucho marx


    Some very judgemental people out there. Glad I'm not down on my luck and asking for much at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I'd like to hear the full story here instead of the bits and pieces we are getting in the OP.

    I don't believe for one second someone would be left out on the street if their situation was known about, they would be given somewhere to stay, even if it wasn't ideal it would be out of the rain and cold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Does that apply to anyone who finds themselves in this situation?

    A made up situation where someone pretends to be homeless in an attempt to get a free house..... Yes the Kids should be taken off them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    A made up situation where someone pretends to be homeless in an attempt to get a free house..... Yes the Kids should be taken off them

    Do you have information about this couple the public doesn't know?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Think she was trying to scam her way into that sweet sweet emergency accommodation?

    I'd say it's more likely she had an argument with whoever she was living with and thought she could just get emergency accommodation instead of resolve it.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Talon Shapely Fashion


    smash wrote: »
    I doubt they decided to get pregnant. This bullshít line needs to stop.

    Not like there's options once pregnant either
    Plus I don't know about anyone else but I don't think I'd like to be hanging around heuston after midnight and I doubt anyone else would with a 4 month old either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    I just knew this story would be used in the 8th amendment agenda ****e.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭Its dead Jim


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Go on then tell me?

    I can guess. Both unemployed, got pregnant, want a free house , weren't getting it so went homeless to speed up the process and play the bleeding heart brigade like puppets.

    All nicely funded by hard working tax payers crippled by mortgage payments each month.

    People should be expected to plan for homelessness but not crippling mortgages. Maybe they should have been more careful and bought a house they could afford? Thought you were a fan of taking responsibility for your own actions.
    selastich2 wrote: »
    Will the child be fostered until they sort themselves out?

    Depends on whats in the child's best interests. Putting a child into care isn't good for him/her so is only used in extreme cases were the parents would be causing more arm.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Basically, a young mum with a four-month-old baby was refused emergency accommodation, and was staying on the street when spotted by a Rough Sleeping group, which visits rough sleepers at night time.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/06/23/turned-away-2/
    “I want to raise the issue of homelessness with you, Tánaiste, and I want to do so in telling you about Áine. She’s an 18-year-old young woman and on Tuesday of this week, she presented as homeless to her local council, along with her partner and their four-month infant daughter.”

    “The council refused to accept that she was genuinely in need of emergency accommodation and she was turned away. At 4.30pm that afternoon she rang the freephone number but no emergency accommodation was available. At 9pm that night she again to be told that there was still no emergency accommodation.”

    “Eventually, at 12.30am, standing outside Heuston Station, shivering and holding her infant child, she was collected by the Rough Sleepers Team and brought to a hostel.”

    “Now Áine, Tanaiste, is just one of 10 families turned away from local authorities on that day, on Tuesday, only later to be accommodated throughout the Rough Sleepers Team. The last of the families wasn’t accommodate until 1.30am in the morning.”

    “Yesterday, Áine returned to her local council only to be turned away again. She was eventually accommodated by the freephone at 8pm in the night and, as we speak Tanaiste, this young woman is yet again on her way back to her local authority not knowing where she and her family will sleep tonight.”

    Think for a moment about the 8th amendment, whereby the State seeks to preserve the lives of unborn children, yet shows scarce interest in child welfare once a child is born.

    There are less children living in poverty in places like Poland than there are in Ireland. We have 135,000 children living in poverty.

    Yet we have some of the most comfortable pensioners in the EU.

    Babies don't vote.

    Where is the daddy?

    What help from her family?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    If there is nothing available, at the very least, the little baby should be placed in temporary foster care. The parents are adults at least.

    Sad story.

    But I can't help but thinking it is political point scoring either, without the full facts to back it all up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    PucaMama wrote: »
    I just knew this story would be used in the 8th amendment agenda ****e.

    You're the first one to mention it :confused:


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 950 ✭✭✭mickmackmcgoo


    But I can't help but thinking it is political point scoring either, without the full facts to back it all up.


    No one here has the full facts but some assume they do .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Speedwell wrote: »
    If you think being poor and homeless with a little baby to take care of is such a cushy, desirable, enviable thing to be, I fervently, devoutly, and sincerely hope you get to enjoy that status for the rest of your life.

    Your such a kind hearted person :):)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    eviltwin wrote: »
    You're the first one to mention it :confused:

    Nah a couple posters have mentioned no options when unplanned pregnancies arise and think its mentioned in op too?


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