Is a Glastonbury 'safe space venue' really necessary?

22-06-2016 02:29PM

It's nonsense. The people involved with the provision of this silliness will hopefully be terribly embarrassed at all this business when they grow up.

I despise this stuff, it's an insult to the millions around the world who struggle with the kind of oppression and discrimination that most of the safe-space occupants can't even begin to comprehend, and the more this stuff is pandered to now the sooner there'll be a backlash and cultural shift away from allowing this kind of self indulgence.

dinorebel · 22-06-2016 02:33PM

Two Tone wrote: »

One of the biggest critics of it that I know is a black lesbian single mother in London! She says the culture of fear of offence there is a huge problem.

If she loses a leg she'll have every possible box ticked.

Two Tone · 22-06-2016 02:36PM

dinorebel wrote: »

If she loses a leg she'll have every possible box ticked.

And she grew up in an extremely deprived part of south London!

22-06-2016 02:46PM

Two Tone wrote: »

And she grew up in an extremely deprived part of south London!

You mean Sarf Laandan

andekwarhola · 22-06-2016 02:48PM

Two Tone wrote: »

One of the biggest critics of it that I know is a black lesbian single mother in London!

Warn her not to walk past a university, especially Goldsmiths.

She'll be forcibly manhandled into the students union and told to take office immediately.

Special Circumstances · 22-06-2016 02:50PM

dinorebel wrote: »

If she loses a leg she'll have every possible box ticked.

Burka + Welsh speaking is now essential for any traction in the media.

Two Tone · 22-06-2016 02:53PM

Candie wrote: »

You mean Sarf Laandan

Yeah true, she's beyond belief cockney.

andekwarhola wrote: »

Warn her not to walk past a university, especially Goldsmiths.

She'll be forcibly manhandled into the students union and told to take office immediately.

Yeah we are always saying she would get a job in the Guardian by merely making them aware of her existence.

beach_walker · 22-06-2016 02:55PM

So how long until the Guardianistas are lobbying for the return of snugs in pubs? Sealed off from the rest, drinks served through a little hatch. Very progressive.

My Granny still can't believe that women have the audacity to go bars :pac: "Bad enough the snug, but even going outside that?!"

andekwarhola · 22-06-2016 02:57PM

beach_walker wrote: »

So how long until the Guardianistas are lobbying for the return of snugs in pubs? Sealed off from the rest, drinks served through a little hatch. Very progressive.

My Granny still can't believe that women have the audacity to go bars :pac: "Bad enough the snug, but even going outside that?!"

A tranquil oasis away from farts, football talk and brawls I would have thought

pickarooney · 22-06-2016 03:00PM

This was an episode of Transparent.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-06-2016 03:00PM

This type of thing is now being categorised as Regressive Leftism.

These people are not Liberals and it's important to acknowledge this.

o1s1n · 22-06-2016 03:01PM

beach_walker wrote: »

So how long until the Guardianistas are lobbying for the return of snugs in pubs? Sealed off from the rest, drinks served through a little hatch. Very progressive.

I find it hilarious how it's pretty much come full circle.

'End discrimination! no more segregation of women at workplaces and events... now give us our own area away from you!'

mahoganygas · 22-06-2016 04:23PM

andekwarhola wrote:

She'll be forcibly manhandled into the students union and told to take office immediately.

office or offence?

22-06-2016 04:25PM

Atari Jaguar should never be an option, because even if I feel strongly about the other ones, I always have to select it.

Tradition, innit?

suicide_circus · 22-06-2016 04:25PM

Pathetic. The Church of Victimhood has more adherents than ever. Sad sacks.

22-06-2016 04:45PM

I would love nothing more than to head up there and identify as female.

wakka12 · 22-06-2016 04:49PM

If it makes some women happy and safer then it can only be a good thing. Men arent exactly missing out on anything, and the existence of this clubhouse isn't negatively impacting them so theres no problem here.

I voted no in the poll as I don't think its necessary, but as I said , if it helps even a small number of women and gives them peace of mind (from whatever it is..men?..I don't know) then whats the big deal.

Ruu · 22-06-2016 04:51PM

When I first saw the headline I thought it was an area where people who didn't like loud noises or a bit of anxiety with crowds, could go to, then I was going to reply with 'You are at a series of concerts, what did you expect?!??'.

22-06-2016 04:52PM

Ruu wrote: »

When I first saw the headline I thought it was an area where people who didn't like loud noises or a bit of anxiety with crowds, could go to, then I was going to reply with 'You are at a series of concerts, what did you expect?!??'.

I'd be all for it, but then you'd get a crowd of people who are afraid of crowds.

wakka12 · 22-06-2016 04:55PM

Ruu wrote: »

When I first saw the headline I thought it was an area where people who didn't like loud noises or a bit of anxiety with crowds, could go to, then I was going to reply with 'You are at a series of concerts, what did you expect?!??'.

That sounds nice. I like crowds and noise but 3 days straight at festivals like electric picnic can get a bit exhausting!

twowheelsonly · 22-06-2016 04:58PM

What happens to members of the Sisterhood if they happen to get a good old fashioned ride off someone of the opposite sex - and pray tell actually enjoy it !!

Are they kicked out of the Sisterhood ? Banned ? Ex-Communicated ? Exorcised ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-06-2016 05:00PM

Seen it a few times at festivals to be honest (and in large mixed Saunas in Germany). Not named safe zone or Sisterhood or anything, just "nur fuer Fraauen".

alchemist33 · 22-06-2016 05:00PM

Is there a safe space from this safe space stuff?

22-06-2016 05:00PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Is there a safe space from this safe space stuff?

I call it "the rest of the world".

Dyr · 22-06-2016 05:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

If it makes some women happy and safer then it can only be a good thing. Men arent exactly missing out on anything, and the existence of this clubhouse isn't negatively impacting them so theres no problem here.
.

That logic didn't seem to apply to golf clubs, societies etc when they were men only though did it? Equality is no longer being equal, a world full of gob****es who read orwell but never got the joke.

johnciall · 22-06-2016 05:09PM

wakka12 wrote: »

If it makes some women happy and safer then it can only be a good thing. Men arent exactly missing out on anything, and the existence of this clubhouse isn't negatively impacting them so theres no problem here.

I voted no in the poll as I don't think its necessary, but as I said , if it helps even a small number of women and gives them peace of mind (from whatever it is..men?..I don't know) then whats the big deal.

From the linked article

"Should you pay the spot a visit, you'll find live music and DJs"

Sounds to me Like theirs a specific venue of the concert that only women can attend, that sounds like men are missing out on performances they paid for [Cause i'd be amazed if their was a cheaper ticket for people identifying as men]

Rothko · 22-06-2016 05:12PM

If people really need a "safe space" then they should stay at home.

super_furry · 22-06-2016 05:15PM

Don't see the harm in it. When four rapes were reported at UK fesitivals last year and three serious assaults at Glastonbury, what harm is there in having a small corner like this?

ScumLord · 22-06-2016 05:15PM

o1s1n wrote: »

I find it hilarious how it's pretty much come full circle.

'End discrimination! no more segregation of women at workplaces and events... now give us our own area away from you!'

The only difference now is that rather than wear a niqab full body veil they'll use the stip of material left over from the eye slot to make blindfolds for men to wear so they can't see the women.

Christy42 · 22-06-2016 05:18PM

If enough paying customers want it then I can't see the harm. Why does it need to be necessary for them to have it? It is a festival, none of it is necessary! It is by nature a luxury item. It doesn't affect me in the slightest either way.

If it is popular then it will be kept and if not it will be ditched. Personally I have no interest in safe spaces and don't get why people would want them there. However people do many things I don't get and unless I think it would hurt someone I generally like leaving them to it. I am curious as to why someone would be so offended by the existence of the safe space?

Is a Glastonbury 'safe space venue' really necessary?

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