Dogmeat Festival gets underway in China

Lau2976 · 21-06-2016 10:20PM

_Brian wrote: »

Imdeed, and I can't understand it.

We usually give our pigs a few pints of Guinness slops on the morning of their last journey, they go off very relaxed. Last two had a wee sleep in the abattoir just before being dispatched, was a very calm affair altogether.

Gotta be honest here, this post has sickened me. The smile at the end just makes it so much worse.

The whole dog thing is no worse then eating any other animal, which as a vegan, I believe is wrong and anybody who does is contributing to genocide.

I hope, but doubt, in generations to come we will have a more civil and compassionate society as opposed to one where most people happily munch away on the cooked, rotting flesh of a being reared and murdered so that you can have a piece of bacon.

_Brian · 21-06-2016 10:49PM

Lau2976 wrote: »

Gotta be honest here, this post has sickened me. The smile at the end just makes it so much worse.

The whole dog thing is no worse then eating any other animal, which as a vegan, I believe is wrong and anybody who does is contributing to genocide.

I hope, but doubt, in generations to come we will have a more civil and compassionate society as opposed to one where most people happily munch away on the cooked, rotting flesh of a being reared and murdered so that you can have a piece of bacon.

Each to their own...

We don't farm very intensively as I feel farming in Ireland is becoming too similar to the American factory farms where animal welfare is slipping down the priorities.

Humans have eaten meat for as long as we've been humans, actually evidence points towards the eating of meat being the very thing that brought us down from the trees in the first place, so if you feel you have the higher moral ground its only because you're standing on the shoulders of generations of meat eaters.

I'm not judging you for being Vegan, and common curtsy would see you not judge me for being a meat eater, although I do like veg too.

Strong Life in Dublin · 21-06-2016 10:55PM

They are not eating pet dogs, these dogs are farm dogs. Just like cows here

Strong Life in Dublin · 21-06-2016 10:58PM

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

wrong or right can be either way.However, the fact that these animals are boiled alive, often skinned while still alive and beaten to death with clubs because the adrenaline caused by fear of death makes my blood boil.They are often stolen pets,with collars still on so..my answer sis a resounding NO to this festival.If you want to see gorey details..just google the festival and look for pictures...just keep a bucket handy

You're talking out of your ass!! They are not stolen pets:rolleyes: these dogs are breed for food

Guy:Incognito · 21-06-2016 11:06PM

_Brian wrote: »

When I've been In China I've eaten dog, TBH it's not a great meat at all, in a sort of stew with peppers and chillies.
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Anyone thats eaten at a concert or sports event before it got all fancy in the last decade or so probably has too

Guy:Incognito · 21-06-2016 11:14PM

Lau2976 wrote: »

Gotta be honest here, this post has sickened me. The smile at the end just makes it so much worse.

The whole dog thing is no worse then eating any other animal, which as a vegan, I believe is wrong and anybody who does is contributing to genocide.

I hope, but doubt, in generations to come we will have a more civil and compassionate society as opposed to one where most people happily munch away on the cooked, rotting flesh of a being reared and murdered so that you can have a piece of bacon.

jester77 · 21-06-2016 11:20PM

I'd eat it before rat. Travelling through Asia and fried rat was common in some places, couldn't bring myself around to eat it.

The One Doctor · 21-06-2016 11:26PM

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

wrong or right can be either way.However, the fact that these animals are boiled alive, often skinned while still alive and beaten to death with clubs because the adrenaline caused by fear of death makes my blood boil.They are often stolen pets,with collars still on so..my answer sis a resounding NO to this festival.If you want to see gorey details..just google the festival and look for pictures...just keep a bucket handy

Sounds like a Facebook rumour.

Cows are scared in India, no beef is eaten. Yet we eat it like it's going out of fashion. And yet because we keep dogs as pets you piss and moan about China.

Perspective. Use it.

_Brian · 21-06-2016 11:29PM

Cuttlefish, now there's one ugly bottom feeder, I can't look at them never mind taste them.

RustyNut · 21-06-2016 11:36PM

China where fast food = greyhound.

Great lads.......

Lt Dan · 21-06-2016 11:39PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-36583400

What's your opinion on this?

The idea of dogmeat makes me feel physically sick. But isn't it hypocritical to get upset about this, when we happily munch on other domesticated animals?

I am heading for a burger later this evening, with zero apologies. I'll happily drink a pint of milk with dinner, even knowing the cruelty inherent to the dairy industry.

Dogmeat, however, just seems wrong. Or is it?

They should burn in hell!

c montgomery · 21-06-2016 11:40PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

The primary concern is that the animals are skinned and cooked alive in certain cases.

Lobsters are boiled alive and no one really cares. What's the difference here?

Call Me Jimmy · 21-06-2016 11:44PM

lobster dont got dem feelz tho

DBB · 21-06-2016 11:46PM

The One Doctor wrote: »

Sounds like a Facebook rumour.

There was a documentary shown on TG4 a number of years ago that showed hundreds of dogs crammed into tiny, flat cages. When I say crammed, I mean the dogs were curled up into balls with no space between them. The people handling this "cargo" just fecked the crates down off the truck they arrived in.
The footage showed the dogs being clubbed.
It showed that at least some of the dogs were still very much alive whilst being skinned. Horrendous viewing.
A person involved was interviewed, and specifically said they preferred the dog to be alive when skinned because (a) it tasted better, and (b) it gave better quality to the pelt, which is sold on.
The last scene in the documentary was a completely skinless dog lying, supposedly lifeless, on the ground. The camera panned into its face. Its eyes moved and looked straight into the camera.
I'm not given to getting emotional about things, but this footage has haunted me for years now. I've a lump in my throat just writing this.
I wish it was just a Facebook rumour.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly · 21-06-2016 11:49PM

c montgomery wrote: »

Lobsters are boiled alive and no one really cares. What's the difference here?

Lobsters don't hump your leg.:)

murpho999 · 21-06-2016 11:55PM

Summer wind wrote: »

I could never eat a dog or cat. I think it's 100% wrong and disgusting.

Why is it wrong or disgusting?

It's animal the same as fish, cows, lambs, deer, rabbit, pigs, chickens, turkeys and game that are all eaten here.

It's all about culture.

Seen horse meat for sale in The Netherlands but wouldn't happen here because of cultural associations with horses.

Jews and Moslems would find it disgusting how we eat pig meat.

Just because we have domesticated and become fond of dogs does not mean it's the same in other countries or make it disgusting.

murpho999 · 21-06-2016 11:56PM

c montgomery wrote: »

Lobsters are boiled alive and no one really cares. What's the difference here?

Most people kill them first, and even if boiled alive they die instantly.

skywanderer · 22-06-2016 12:22AM

When I was in secondary school I took Home Economics with the Girls, just one of three lads. Anyway the first day there was a big discussion about foreign foods, Pasta from Italy etc. sort of a thing. My contribution was DogMeat from China and how the Chinese ate Cats and Dogs. I got detention and was also accused of Racism. The internet wasn't as widespread back then. That Teacher was some arrogant piece of work looking back.

mdwexford · 22-06-2016 12:29AM

Disgusting cnuts would be my take on it.

uck51js9zml2yt · 22-06-2016 12:34AM

A friend was working in China and went to the meat market. She saw a kitten and knowing it's fate wanted to save it and have a pet.
She pointed to the cat and the seller killed it for her knowing what it was for.
She had no choice but to buy it from him as he had killed it.

Ms Doubtfire1 · 22-06-2016 08:43AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Adrenaline taints meat, it doesn't improve it.

There's a distinct smell of BS off any story about skinning animals alive, or boiling them live.

I just don't see the benefit.

The only exception is lobsters, which are boiled alive due to rapid decay after death. That doesn't apply to mammals though.

I was going to comment on this specific remark last night night but I couldn't because I would have been less than civil-much less.The atrocities carried out at yulin are well documented, and the fact that dogs and cats are being skinned alive, boiled alive (often slowly) and beaten do death with clubs due to the idea that the adrenaline cause by fear of death makes the meat taste better.Calling this BS is something that really really p**** me off.do your research before calling something BS-espacially something so disgusting and filthy as this specific 'festival'

Ms Doubtfire1 · 22-06-2016 08:57AM

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

They are not eating pet dogs, these dogs are farm dogs. Just like cows here

they are most certainly not.only in 35% of the cases and those dogs are being smuggled in from vietnam illegally.the others are strays and stolen pets.

Ms Doubtfire1 · 22-06-2016 09:00AM

The One Doctor wrote: »

Sounds like a Facebook rumour.

Cows are scared in India, no beef is eaten. Yet we eat it like it's going out of fashion. And yet because we keep dogs as pets you piss and moan about China.

Perspective. Use it.

as said before, do your research before dismissing something a s rumor.Unfortunately as a newbie I can't post (accredited) pictures, but i would have if i could and it would make you sick to your stomach. and please- keep a distinction between 'we' and YOU. I don't eat meat. AT ALL. just google yulin 2016 and select picture.than grab a bucket.

Outlaw Pete · 22-06-2016 09:01AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There's a distinct smell of BS off any story about skinning animals alive..

Perhaps before cooking but dogs are regularly skinned alive in China for the fur trade. It's well documented.

Be warned, the following video is quite disturbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVRKSY0DATI

Bosley1421 · 22-06-2016 09:04AM

Also for those who debate the skinning alive/torture of these animals, Ricky Gervais has a lot of good pictures and information on his public pages.

Ms Doubtfire1 · 22-06-2016 09:09AM

>it's heartbreaking<

Sapphire · 22-06-2016 09:40AM

We should cancel the Oyster festival in Galway so.

Poor oysters having their shells wrenched open and swallowed whole, alive. Or drenched alive in citric acid and swallowed whole, washed down with alcohol. Or they are baked slowly to death in their own juices.

Wont anyone think of the Oysters?

Outlaw Pete · 22-06-2016 09:43AM

Equating the eating of raw oysters to the skinning alive of dogs is absurd.

Ms Doubtfire1 · 22-06-2016 09:44AM

Sapphire wrote: »

We should cancel the Oyster festival in Galway so.

Poor oysters having their shells wrenched open and swallowed whole, alive. Or drenched alive in citric acid and swallowed whole, washed down with alcohol. Or they are baked slowly to death in their own juices.

Wont anyone think of the Oysters?

I better leave this thread before I really loose my wits.But I have to say, posts like the quoted one and many others on this thread explains to me why there is still so much cruelty and neglect ongoing in ireland..people simply don't care. 'nuff said.

Sapphire · 22-06-2016 10:02AM

Ms Doubtfire1 wrote: »

I better leave this thread before I really loose my wits.But I have to say, posts like the quoted one and many others on this thread explains to me why there is still so much cruelty and neglect ongoing in ireland..people simply don't care. 'nuff said.

I care about animals. I grew up on a farm. I've never liked to see any animal suffer. So it's a bit rich to accuse me of neglect and cruelty from your little vegan high horse up there.

Eating live raw shellfish is cruel. Boiling crabs or lobsters alive is cruel. Yet its accepted practice here in Ireland and even celebrated with food festivals. But it's our culture to do it this way so it doesn't even occur to plenty of Irish that the way we prepare these foods could be cruel too.

Dogmeat Festival gets underway in China

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