Season 6 Episode 9 "Battle of the Bastards" - "Book readers"

Zillah wrote: »

If that's what you think then you have not been paying attention. This entire arc is about Sansa coming into her own. She's the rising power now - not Jon, not Littlefinger. There's a new Lady in town. The reason Littlefinger is helping her at all is because he is sentimental towards her, always has been thanks to his infatuation with Catelyn.

Lol, Hey if anyone ever emails you saying they want to send you $5M from their Nigerian bank account, its totally legit and you should give them your bank information etc.

Seriously, littlefinger is a 100% total creep who doesn't give a f u c k about anyone. Sansa is another piece for him to play with, nothing more.

Look at his handling of Ned, look how he handled Ros (the redhead from his brothel) when she was upset. The man is a cold calculating mo-fo.

I've got high hopes for Sansa, but I think its naive to think that little finger is helping her out of the kindness of his heart.

Stone cold Bastard is all he is.

2ndcoming wrote: »

Everyone still obsessing about the Iron Throne... I'd be surprised if there still even is one by the end of the next book.

There's not even gonna be one by the end of the next episode

RobbingBandit wrote: »

****e, absolute ****e after all that waiting a two minute battle of Meereen, booooooooooooooooooooooo.

All hail the savior of the north Lord Petyr Baelish, looks like there will be three queens soon. Queen in the North Sansa. Yara and Dany. Feminists rejoice.

I am not convinced that was Rickon, I think they have gone with a mute as he didn't speak a word in any of his on screen scenes at all. Seems strange as my guess was it was Wex but Ramsay killed him back in season two.

Washington Irving wrote: »

Hearing the horn of the Riders of Rohan Knights of The Vale was one the most satisfying moments of the show, even more impressive given we all knew it was coming. Ramsay being savaged by his hounds probably number one.

Episode is an absolutely incredible achievement in terms of cinematography.

I'm caught between these two polar opposites.

The battle of Mereen in the Books has been built up to be a big deal. Barristan Selmy is going to launch a desperate attack with the hope of breaking through to the siege engines and shattering the host of the enemy in a lightning dawn attack.

Instead in show the land besiegers are a bunch of Sons of the Harpy who seemingly got lost and are slaughtering... apparently upper class civilians outside the city gates. Er... okay... Meanwhile Daenery's dragons destroy one ship out of an enemy armada and the rest capitulate. It's the result I want... just not quite the way I want it. Feels like wish fulfilment. Would Season 1 episode 9 have been better if Syrio had turned up, saved Ned and killed Joffrey? Hmm. Satisfying, but... better?

But Yara alliance was fine. Nothing wrong with that.

The battle between Ramsey and Jon was good, but the Vale Knights' arrival was flagged up so heavily I thought I heard Merry shouting something about the riders of Rohan coming. It made the battle between the wildlings and Boltons feel a little inconsequential. I still don't get the Umber's real motives. I would have loved some exchanges between the heads of the Houses resisting Jon's alliance: at least we saw Smalljon in the fray.

I mean, I'm still more hyped for the battles at the beginning of the Winds of Winter (the book, not the episode) because I am unsure what is going to happen there. But either way there will be no Knights of the Vale to rescue the day: if the guys we want to win lose their tactical heads they will lose their physical heads as well.

And why is resurrection good enough for Jon but not Rickon? House Stark has died out if Bran does not make it south (and if his being touched negates COTF magic, do you really want him coming south?)

Wun-wun, Thormund, Davos all great. Some v. good cinematography.

Owryan wrote: »

Enjoyed the episode, but thought the battle with its literally mountains of dead were a bit far fetched.

Sure by the time we got to the Boltons making a shield wall around Jon's alliance there were only around 500 people left in the battle, max (excluding the Vale Knights). This was from a starting number of about 9,000.

Yes they wouldn't have all died by that stage of the battle, nor been stacked in a heap in a single part of the battlefield, but budget spares neither man nor beast.

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

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And why is resurrection good enough for Jon but not Rickon? House Stark has died out if Bran does not make it south (and if his being touched negates COTF magic, do you really want him coming south?)

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That's a good point; he may have been trampled to bits by Jon's cavalry though

Gbear wrote: »

Because then they would've won easily and stuff.

A lot of plot-required stupidity.
They're awful at crafting a story. Any time they've even slightly strayed from GRRM's stuff to any major degree it's just been a mess.

At least it was a pretty, energetic mess this week.

The dragons looked immense. Just hovering and absolutely laying waste to that ship. It was some of the most beautiful CGI/action they've done IMO.

Some small additions were good though; Brienne vs the Hound, and Tywin & Arya.
I thought there was plenty of stuff in the books that I was glad to see cut from the show. Strong Belwas, for example. When I was reading the books, I couldn't see any point to him and I was convinced he was Varys in disguise. And those Blackfyres who were heading west to meet up with Dany, I couldn't have cared less about.

intheclouds wrote: »

Isn't that the end of House Stark now?

duploelabs wrote: »

Am I right to say that the stark name, with Rickon dying, is now dead? EDIT: Obviously Bran can't greensee(d)

Tongue-in-cheek answer: Didn't you watch the episode lads, it's time for the era of Queens and Ladies, Sansa will just do one of those immaculate conception jobs.

Serious answer: Depends on whether or not Jon is eventually legitimised as a Stark.

amos13 wrote: »

Jon legitimised, some hokey pokey with Sansa now that they're not siblings, pop a baby in the belly and bobs your dead king uncle.

Well if he's actually a Targ he'd have form for shagging family members I guess, albeit she'd be his cousin not his sister. #TheDeepNorth #DuellingLutes

As cathartic as it was to watch Ramsay killed by his hounds I was rather hoping we'd get a proper Northern execution like in Episode 1 where his crimes would be read out and Jon would execute him with Longclaw. It would've made the whole ending more legitimate within universe rather than just giving Sansa closure.

It should have been Theon

I loved Ramsay. What a loss he'll be.

Great actor Iwan Rheon.

This series is seriously poor really missing the books

I'm fed up of signposted ****e