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Euro 2016 - Group E - Belgium vs Ireland, 2 pm, RTE & ITV

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    FatherTed wrote: »
    I feel a 1-0 win with our goal coming off a set piece.

    Have to remember that Belgium conceded 2 against Norway


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Mec27


    Our team just lacks a bit of magic and a bit of youth, it is alright imo, players like Hendrick and Randolph could be playing for big sides outside the main European leagues, it is just someone like Hendrick can get more money playing for Derby than he could for some mid ranked European team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Courtois; Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Vermaelen, Meunier; Witsel, Dembélé; Hazard, De Bruyne Carrasco; Lukaku.

    Quite happy with that team. De Bruyne as a 10 and Hazard/Carrasco on the wings.

    Still nervous though, Ireland might not be as stacked in midfield but can still be dangerous going forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Right call I think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Mec27


    I don't see what Ireland are going to be better at, they seem like better athletes, bigger and faster than our players, and it is not like we have the Barcelona touch to compensate for that.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    I have a feeling this will be another 1-1 .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,076 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Belgium have their actual best attacking 4 starting today.

    Wilmots would have to listen to reason in time for today, wouldn't he?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Surely betting against Ireland, no matter how likely Belgium are to win, is just a bit a bit sad!. Are people that hung up for a few quid that they think a few euro will mean they wont be that disappointed if we lose! Put it on Morning Suit at 11/10 in the 1.35 at Redcar! It shouldnt lose and you'll have your pints for the day.

    There are hundreds of good bets all day that will give you much more profit than backing against your own team! I'd also prefer to enjoy winning from a gamble than just a mere "ah sure, at least i won twenty quid after Fellaini comes on and heads in a 92nd minute winner"!

    I just find it so irritating when fans back against their own team ! I am sure there is plenty that disagree though so I am not having a go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,320 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Ward at left back is a huge liability .Can see the Belgians targeting him .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Mec27 wrote: »
    I don't see what Ireland are going to be better at, they seem like better athletes, bigger and faster than our players, and it is not like we have the Barcelona touch to compensate for that.

    Because football works exactly like that :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Ireland XI - Stephen Ward gets the nod. Randolph, Coleman, O'Shea, Clark, Ward, Whelan, McCarthy, Hendrick, Brady, Hoolahan, Long.

    thought so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Mec27


    Surely betting against Ireland, no matter how likely Belgium are to win, is just a bit a bit sad!. Are people that hung up for a few quid that they think a few euro will mean they wont be that disappointed if we lose! Put it on Morning Suit at 11/10 in the 1.35 at Redcar! It shouldnt lose and you'll have your pints for the day.

    There are hundreds of good bets all day that will give you much more profit than backing against your own team! I'd also prefer to enjoy winning from a gamble than just a mere "ah sure, at least i won twenty quid after Fellaini comes on and heads in a 92nd minute winner"!

    I just find it so irritating when fans back against their own team ! I am sure there is plenty that disagree though so I am not having a go!

    Yeah for endemic gamblers yeah but I'm betting today just because I want to ease the pain a little if we lose. I gamble like once a year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Ward at left back is a huge liability .Can see the Belgians targeting him .


    No he isn't. He is well capable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    Surely betting against Ireland, no matter how likely Belgium are to win, is just a bit a bit sad!. Are people that hung up for a few quid that they think a few euro will mean they wont be that disappointed if we lose! Put it on Morning Suit at 11/10 in the 1.35 at Redcar! It shouldnt lose and you'll have your pints for the day.

    There are hundreds of good bets all day that will give you much more profit than backing against your own team! I'd also prefer to enjoy winning from a gamble than just a mere "ah sure, at least i won twenty quid after Fellaini comes on and heads in a 92nd minute winner"!

    I just find it so irritating when fans back against their own team ! I am sure there is plenty that disagree though so I am not having a go!

    why? it wont affect the result, so what's the issue?


  • Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Derek Full Rancor


    Mahony0509 wrote: »
    Team announced. All the same except Ward in for Walters.

    Looks like we are packing the midfield
    Need a good game out of Whelan
    Needs to break up that play


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,762 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    No he isn't. He is well capable.

    You have to be having a laugh. He isn't a good left back.. not by any standards and certainly not by International standards... a liability especially at this level...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    why? it wont affect the result, so what's the issue?

    Thats not what i am implying at all. I said exactly why in the post! And I dont want a war of words on the topic so not going to say anything more! Enjoy your twenty quid if we lose!

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,755 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    FFS RTE turn down the background music!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Strumms wrote: »
    You have to be having a laugh. He isn't a good left back.. not by any standards and certainly not by International standards... a liability especially at this level...

    I never said as such. You suggested he was a HUGE liability! Hyperbole at its finest! Sadly we forgot to call up all our brilliant left backs. He has been in great form in a title winning team. He also has improved a lot in last couple of years for Ireland.
    Our full backs wont get a chance to go forward like other games so Brady at left back wouldnt have had the same impact. There will be a lot more backtracking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,361 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Why does Dunphy rate James McClean so high. Never really performed good for Ireland


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    FFS RTE turn down the background music!

    Absolutely!! Jaysus..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Me - "Awh yes Carrasco is playing!".

    30 seconds later, "Wait **** Carrasco is playing!".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,954 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    God, i'm terrified now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,451 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    Hopefully Carrasco has an off day as I wouldn't rate Ward at international level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭derm0j073


    Ward playing doesn't fill me with confidence but if they go out and play with the same confidence and attacking attitude as the Sweden game, we're in with a shout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,954 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Why does Dunphy rate James McClean so high. Never really performed good for Ireland

    Cos he gives absolutely everything (sometimes too much). He can beat a player. He gets to the byline and has a decent cross. He is commited in defence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Jesus, Clark could easily have had a hattrick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Cos he gives absolutely everything (sometimes too much). He can beat a player. He gets to the byline and has a decent cross. He is commited in defence.

    I think the best thing you can say about McClean is he works hard and wins corners.

    Don't think he is that great at 1 on 1's or putting in good crosses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Never get tired of seeing that Hendrick run against Georgia. Fantastic feet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,762 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I never said as such. You suggested he was a HUGE liability! Hyperbole at its finest! Sadly we forgot to call up all our brilliant left backs. He has been in great form in a title winning team. He also has improved a lot in last couple of years for Ireland.
    Our full backs wont get a chance to go forward like other games so Brady at left back wouldnt have had the same impact. There will be a lot more backtracking.

    I never said he was a HUGE liability. Don't misquote me, go back and read my post. I believe he is a liability as I said. That has been proven in the past. Whether that is HUGE or otherwise is irrelevant.

    It's not his ability to go forward that I have an issue with but his positional sense is often poor and if he gets isolated one on one he is often done for pace. He is not a natural defender.

    I hope he has the game of his life and I am proved wrong but I have watched enough of him going back to when I used to go see him at Dollymount when he was played in his natural position and he excelled up to present day where he is no more than a very average defender at best... to suggest otherwise shows a lack of understanding of the game to be honest.


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