Young boy who lacerated arm on pull-out bed awarded €18,000

duffman3833 · 14-06-2016 4:31pm #1

A five-year-old schoolboy, who lacerated his left arm on a pull-out bed in a Dublin hotel, was awarded €18,000 damages in the Circuit Civil Court.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/young-boy-who-lacerated-arm-on-pullout-bed-at-plush-dublin-hotel-awarded-18000-34800463.html

Is it me or is there no such thing as accidents these days that you can sue for anything.
I know this article doesn't give much details, they never do, but this seems a bit ridiculous.
are the parents wanting easy money?
What you think?

suicide_circus · 14-06-2016 4:36pm

It just means that there is a big disincentive to start or run a business with a premises because you need exorbitant insurance to cover the outrageous payouts which are prevalent.

The_Valeyard · 14-06-2016 4:44pm

The amount of money I could now have from all the childhood injuries I received from my own stupidity.

Had an accident? Sue! Even if its your own fault, you can get money to make the pain go away.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2016 4:47pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

It just means that there is a big disincentive to start or run a business with a premises because you need exorbitant insurance to cover the outrageous payouts which are prevalent.

The hotel offered the payout to stop it going to court. perhaps if they hadnt been negligent it would not have got this far.

duffman3833 · 14-06-2016 4:48pm

The_Valeyard wrote: »

The amount of money I could now have from all the childhood injuries I received from my own stupidity.

Had an accident? Sue! Even if its your own fault, you can get money to make the pain go away.

that's they way i see it, i remember i hit a big rock and fell off my bike, needed stitches after a bit cut on my chin. I could have sued the council for leaving a rock in my path and might have won ha

cruizer101 · 14-06-2016 4:50pm

While I would agree with your sentiment that people seem to be claiming for all sorts, without more details its hard to know in this case compensation may be appropriate. A bed shouldn't really have any exposed edges that can 'lacerate'. That said 18,000 for a cut on elbow where he was out of the hospital in 1 day, scar on an elbow which is a knobbly looking part of the body anyway.

DrumSteve · 14-06-2016 4:51pm

These threads some come with a complementary pitchfork and torch.

stoplooklisten · 14-06-2016 4:52pm

if they had of stuck his fingers in a door, he would have gotten more

Young boy awarded €20,000 for finger injury suffered while attending Dublin creche
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/young-boy-awarded-20000-for-finger-injury-suffered-while-attending-dublin-creche-34800444.html

Judge Groarke, hearing that Alex had made a full recovery and the wound had left a minor scar on his finger, approved the offer.

keano_afc · 14-06-2016 4:53pm

When I was a kid I sliced my hand open going down a metal slide in Clara Lara. Very deep cut, totally their fault as the slide had a metal panel sticking out.

I got home, my mother cleaned it and dressed it and that was the end of the matter. If it happened today we could buy a holiday home.

14-06-2016 4:54pm

stoplooklisten wrote: »

if they had of stuck his fingers in a door, he would have gotten more

Young boy awarded €20,000 for finger injury suffered while attending Dublin creche
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/young-boy-awarded-20000-for-finger-injury-suffered-while-attending-dublin-creche-34800444.html

Judge Groarke, hearing that Alex had made a full recovery and the wound had left a minor scar on his finger, approved the offer.

Who's they???

Cienciano · 14-06-2016 4:54pm

It depends on the case. Some payouts are dodgy. But if a hotel leaves exposed metal sticking out that can break the skin, they really deserve to pay out.

andekwarhola · 14-06-2016 4:54pm

You can just imagine the same people then bitching about insurance premium hikes, increased fares /prices etc.

Enjoy your few grand because it'll be clawed back from you tenfold.

endacl · 14-06-2016 4:56pm

Perhaps the accidents are the many everyday incidents you don't read about in the papers, OP?

darkpagandeath · 14-06-2016 4:58pm

What a crock of S*it. If he hit his head on a table would he get a payout ? Was there a sign saying this bed is 100% safe ? This is why your car insurance is going up to cover this end of the game.

stoplooklisten · 14-06-2016 4:58pm

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Who's they???

Who ever was supervising him, which wasn't the hotel manager

Gatling · 14-06-2016 4:58pm

Another one recently a former garda made a claim for a injury that caused his early retirement during an arrest ,
He actually retired due to inheritance coming his way ,
but the judge even when told the garda didn't tell the force he was retiring due to health reasons was still given a decent amount by a judge

pwurple · 14-06-2016 4:59pm

There's a personal injuries table of estimated payouts I think... for an elbow injury it sounds about normal.

Here are the estimates ( which are there to keep claims reasonable, as far as I know.)
http://www.injuriesboard.ie/eng/How-to-make-a-claim/Estimate-your-claim/

A 5 year old child hospitalised overnight needing stitches and ending up with a permanent scar from a bed in a hotel room... I dunno. If it was my 5 year old child with his elbow in bits, and my holiday which ended up getting diverted to hospital, I'd be fairly pissed off.

I don't think there's any question of the child deliberately lacerating his own elbow. Beds should not behave like knives.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2016 5:00pm

darkpagandeath wrote: »

What a crock of S*it. If he hit his head on a table would he get a payout ? Was there a sign saying this bed is 100% safe ? This is why your car insurance is going up to cover this end of the game.

Is it not reasonable to assume that hotel furniture does not have exposed metal edges?

And what this has to do with car insurance can only be explained by this being AH.

darkpagandeath · 14-06-2016 5:03pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Is it not reasonable to assume that hotel furniture does not have exposed metal edges?

And what this has to do with car insurance can only be explained by this being AH.

Door hinges are exposed metal for example.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2016 5:04pm

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Door hinges are exposed metal for example.

if the edge of a hinge is exposed you would consider that reasonable then?

Gatling · 14-06-2016 5:04pm

Wonder how many hundreds of kids used the same bed in the hotel and managed to come away without a personal injury claim

duffman3833 · 14-06-2016 5:05pm

the only solution i see is to bubble wrap everything

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2016 5:06pm

Gatling wrote: »

Wonder how many hundreds of kids used the same bed in the hotel and managed to come away without a personal injury claim

so because nobody else was injured that is ok is it?

darkpagandeath · 14-06-2016 5:08pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if the edge of a hinge is exposed you would consider that reasonable then?

Yes many hinges are designed to be exposed. Just like taps, Just like Door handles. Just like metal coffee tables. Pretty sure the kid could strangle themselves with the cord of an appliance in the hotel room. He was supervised by his Guardians they are at fault.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2016 5:12pm

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yes many hinges are designed to be exposed. Just like taps, Just like Door handles. Just like metal coffee tables. Pretty sure the kid could strangle themselves with the cord of an appliance in the hotel room. He was supervised by his Guardians they are at fault.

if the kid hit his elbow off a door handle the hotel would not be negligent. if the kid his his elbow off a table the hotel would not be negligent. if the kid hit his elbow off a piece of metal that should not be exposed then the hotel is negligent. can you see how that works?

andekwarhola · 14-06-2016 5:13pm

pwurple wrote: »

I dunno. If it was my 5 year old child with his elbow in bits, and my holiday which ended up getting diverted to hospital, I'd be fairly pissed off.

Fairly succinct summation of the claim culture: an accident impinges on our leisure time. 18k should help assuage our agony and trauma.

stoplooklisten · 14-06-2016 5:14pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

Fairly succinct summation of the claim culture: an accident impinges on our leisure time. 18k should help assuage our agony and trauma.

i hope they're not too tramatised over the incident and hotels trigger them now

Pro Hoc Vice · 14-06-2016 5:17pm

duffman3833 wrote: »

A five-year-old schoolboy, who lacerated his left arm on a pull-out bed in a Dublin hotel, was awarded €18,000 damages in the Circuit Civil Court.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/young-boy-who-lacerated-arm-on-pullout-bed-at-plush-dublin-hotel-awarded-18000-34800463.html

Is it me or is there no such thing as accidents these days that you can sue for anything.
I know this article doesn't give much details, they never do, but this seems a bit ridiculous.
are the parents wanting easy money?
What you think?

You get 1 the defendant accepted some liability as this was the ruling of a settlement and 2 the parents don't get the money.

14-06-2016 5:19pm

Settled out of court!
Can't understand why anyone would have a problem with that apart from those who are jealous!
cost the taxpayers nothing!

And there was obvious injury and negligence

darkpagandeath · 14-06-2016 5:19pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

Fairly succinct summation of the claim culture: an accident impinges on our leisure time. 18k should help assuage our agony and trauma.

I have loads of permanent scars from being a kid. I wager bouncing on the bed was the causation of the exposure of the mechanism. As a parent I would check the room for faults pretty odd they did not call the front desk and complain about a faulty bed.

14-06-2016 5:23pm

I don't think this has anything to do with a claims culture. The fact that the hotel attempted to pay a set of money to keep it out of court shows that they knew they were negligent. If a hotel caused my toddler to be injured and permanently scarred, you'd be damn sure I'd sue them too. Not because of "claim culture", but because they f*cked up and should be made pay for it.

Young boy who lacerated arm on pull-out bed awarded €18,000

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