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Ultan Dillane a potential Paul O'Connell for Ireland?

  • 11-06-2016 10:47pm
    #1
    MadDog1999
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭


    Seeing Dillane's outstanding performance for both Connacht(I'm a munster fan btw, but have been watching Ultan) and Ireland and also hearing other people's opinions, do you think he has the potential to be the next Paul O'Connell for Ireland? Sad he isn't playing for munster, he would probably be the next Paul o connell for them too. Although CJ Stander has an excellent performance record also so Munster seems to be covered.

    Like, I mean Dillane is a power engine like Stander. They both keep driving through defense lines tackles and also make the best of all gaps they see.

    So is Dillane the next Paul O'Connell and if not who else do you think? Stander for both Munster and Ireland. Not trying to compare everyone and definitely not trying to forget the legend that is O'Connell. All opinions welcome :)


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  • #2
    Cosmo Kramer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    It's too early to say for sure how far Dillane can go but, with both him and hopefully James Ryan emerging alongside Henderson in the next couple of years, things are now looking a hell of a lot better for us in the second row than they were a year ago.


  • #3
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Obviously he's a physical beast, and will be more so when he grows into his legs, but how's he technically?


  • #4
    Teferi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Dillane has a huge ceiling I think, excited to see how high he goes.


  • #5
    MadDog1999
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭MadDog1999


    Cosmo Kramer wrote:
    It's too early to say for sure how far Dillane can go but, with both him and hopefully James Ryan emerging alongside Henderson in the next couple of years, things are now looking a hell of a lot better for us in the second row than they were a year ago.

    Ya I suppose. He is only new to the scene for Ireland anyway. Ya I agree. There needs to be more than one person to fill the gap Paul O'Connell left behind. Is that where you were coming from? Ya our second row is definitely much improved now.
    CatFromHue wrote:
    Obviously he's a physical beast, and will be more so when he grows into his legs, but how's he technically?

    Technically, we won't know yet really. I think he has used his skills pretty well so far even sadly though that most of his caps were in losing games so far but that is rugby and life. He is second row so when it comes to scoring tries and everything near the back of the field second row isn't the most technical position when it comes to that end of the field, the most technically suited positions there would of course be the backs thinner, more agile and speedy. Well he is still developing as far as I can see so maybe we can come back in maybe next season or a year and we will probably know for sure then


  • #6
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    He's answered every question that's been put to him so far, never looking out of his depth in any situation he's been thrown into over the last 6 months which is impressive given how little professional rugby he's actually played in a position where experience counts a lot. He's been a class act so far.

    I reckon he's the real deal.


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  • #7
    English Lurker
    Registered Users Posts: 609 ✭✭✭English Lurker


    No one needs the pressure of being the next O'Connell, but I saw 4 young Irish locks today who looked absurdly full of potential.


  • #8
    connemara man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Obviously he's a physical beast, and will be more so when he grows into his legs, but how's he technically?

    His skill set is great good in the line out passing and tackling are great and he has a good impact in the Scrum.

    He's not a lineout technician yet he doesn't call the line out still needs to learn to read opposition lineouts. In Connacht that was Muldowneys job and will more than likely pass to Browne next season


  • #9
    MadDog1999
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭MadDog1999


    clsmooth wrote: »
    He's answered every question that's been put to him so far, never looking out of his depth in any situation he's been thrown into over the last 6 months which is impressive given how little professional rugby he's actually played in a position where experience counts a lot. He's been a class act so far.

    I reckon he's the real deal.

    This is my exact point! Thanks for posting this. I'm definitely not the only one who thinks ultan dillane is as good as I think or should I say I know he is! Maybe I watch him play much too much :rolleyes: This are things I won't be able to get back in my life but sure what harm. Nothing wrong with observing dillane for his performance and his potentials.


  • #10
    Zzippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Do we have to label every young potential star the "next <insert legendary player in that position> ?? The next BOD, the next POC... how about we just allow them to develop without that pressure. He's the next Ultan Dillane, superstar. Is that good enough?


  • #11
    connemara man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Do we have to label every young potential star the "next <insert legendary player in that position> ?? The next BOD, the next POC... how about we just allow them to develop without that pressure. He's the next Ultan Dillane, superstar. Is that good enough?

    But but but how will we hype someone up?


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  • #12
    Billysays no
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭Billysays no


    connemara man wrote: »
    But but but how will we hype someone up?

    Billysaysno looking into rugby career? Any hype?


  • #13
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Do we have to label every young potential star the "next <insert legendary player in that position> ?? The next BOD, the next POC... how about we just allow them to develop without that pressure. He's the next Ultan Dillane, superstar. Is that good enough?

    you'll never be the next Awec with that attitude!!

    :D


  • #14
    Adbrowne
    Site Banned Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Adbrowne


    Billysays no wrote: »
    Billysaysno looking into rugby career? Any hype?

    The next george hook perhaps ;)


  • #15
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Ian Henderson is our next Paul O'Connell.

    Ultan Dillane is our next Ian Henderson.

    John Madigan is our next Ultan Dillane.

    James Ryan is our next John Madigan.


  • #16
    MadDog1999
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭MadDog1999


    Zzippy wrote:
    Do we have to label every young potential star the "next ?? The next BOD, the next POC... how about we just allow them to develop without that pressure. He's the next Ultan Dillane, superstar. Is that good enough?

    Good point I suppose Zzippy. Maybe instead we can use this thread just to discuss about Ultan Dillane and his performances etc.


  • #17
    First Up
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Ian Henderson is our next Paul O'Connell.

    Ultan Dillane is our next Ian Henderson.

    John Madigan is our next Ultan Dillane.

    James Ryan is our next John Madigan.

    Not a bad summary. The first bit is definitely correct. Henderson has been groomed as O'Connell's successor quite some time.


  • #18
    jacothelad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,935 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Cosmo Kramer wrote: »
    It's too early to say for sure how far Dillane can go but, with both him and hopefully James Ryan emerging alongside Henderson in the next couple of years, things are now looking a hell of a lot better for us in the second row than they were a year ago.
    We have riches at second row now and on the way up that are extraordinary. James Ryan is as close to a shoe in as I've seen since Henderson was as close to a shoe in as ...err well you know.
    If only we had such a bonanza in other positions.


  • #19
    BeardySi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    He's going to be the next Ultan Dillane and we're going to love every minute of it! He's got massive potential and has risen admirably to every challenge put to him so far.


  • #20
    First Up
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    Treadhead wrote: »
    He's going to be the next Ultan Dillane and we're going to love every minute of it! He's got massive potential and has risen admirably to every challenge put to him so far.

    His future won't be confined the the 2nd row.


  • #21
    Hagz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    Great to see a Kerry man making some noise. Just need JJ Hanrahan to make his way back now.


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  • #22
    MadDog1999
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭MadDog1999


    Hagz wrote:
    Great to see a Kerry man making some noise. Just need JJ Hanrahan to make his way back now.


    Ya! I am from kerry also so that is why I follow him closely.


  • #23
    English Lurker
    Registered Users Posts: 609 ✭✭✭English Lurker


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Ian Henderson is our next Paul O'Connell.

    Ultan Dillane is our next Ian Henderson.

    John Madigan is our next Ultan Dillane.

    James Ryan is our next John Madigan.

    Cillian Gallagher is your next James Ryan.


  • #24
    Hagz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    What does that make Ross Molony?

    Our next Leo Cullen?


  • #25
    mareegoo
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭mareegoo


    MadDog1999 wrote: »
    Seeing Dillane's outstanding performance for both Connacht(I'm a munster fan btw, but have been watching Ultan) and Ireland and also hearing other people's opinions, do you think he has the potential to be the next Paul O'Connell for Ireland? Sad he isn't playing for munster, he would probably be the next Paul o connell for them too. Although CJ Stander has an excellent performance record also so Munster seems to be covered.

    Like, I mean Dillane is a power engine like Stander. They both keep driving through defense lines tackles and also make the best of all gaps they see.

    So is Dillane the next Paul O'Connell and if not who else do you think? Stander for both Munster and Ireland. Not trying to compare everyone and definitely not trying to forget the legend that is O'Connell. All opinions welcome :)

    Yes he is the real deal but he has some BALANCE for a giant - almost sean o brien like going through tackles.

    Ryan, madigan etc mentioned

    but watch out for Cian Romaine he is bulking up big time hopefully he can kick on great potential


  • #26
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I didn't really know who he was prior to the 6N. He's a very impressive, young player.


  • #27
    Zzippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    you'll never be the next Awec with that attitude!!

    :D

    Nah. I'd never fit into skinny jeans!





    (or be seen dead in them)


  • #28
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    I didn't really know who he was prior to the 6N. He's a very impressive, young player.

    James Ryan has been on the HagzList for years. We were all warned.


  • #29
    Korat
    Registered Users Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭Korat


    Toner and Henderson as lock combo for this tour and for the future.

    Dillane to integrate over time.


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