How to use fadas? (Irish language ascii)

DannyD

I'm wondering how do I use Irish characters in ascii ? I've searched google and read the stickys here in the forums but can't find anything.


Thanks in advance.

Funkstard

Hold the 'Alt Gr' button (to the right of the space bar) and press the vowel at the same time. Eg. Alt Gr + a = .......
....... .....wtf? it's not working..... emm, my keyboards just fudged, it works tho

Bard

Activate the English (Ireland) keyset and it works. In Windows XP this can be located under Regional and Language options in Control Panel. Then use AltGr with your vowels to get the fadas.

áéíóú

Yoda

Fada, of course, is an adjective. "Cuir síneadh fada ar an a sin" 'Put a long mark on that a'. The plural of síneadh fada is sínte fada.

In English, we have the perfectly good word "acute" which is applied to the ´, just as "grave" is applied to `, "circumflex" to ^, and so on.

Must we nominalize the adjective and pluralize it?

Yoda

In OS X 10.2 and later, just type option-vowel for áéíóú and shift-option-vowel for ÁÉÍÓÚ.

lintdrummer

Alt Gr doesn't work on my pc. My regional settings are for Ireland but I can't get fadas working.
Also, I have to press shift and 2 to get an @ sign and i have to press shift and ' to get qoutation marks. this shud be the other way round.

Lukin Black

You must have English (Ireland) with a US or International keyboard set up. Go into the control panel and have a gander under the Keyboard settings, or "Regional and Language Settings", under Windows XP.

Screenshot attached..

After you do that, your Alt Gr will work, and your @ / " keys will return to their normal place.

Lukin Black

And for those running Linux, niallb posted info here.

lintdrummer

Ok. Thats sorted it when I'm writin in word or notepad, but here in this text box it's not working. If I press alt gr and 'a' here, my list of favourites opens.

Lukin Black

Are you doing it while the cursor is in a text box? If you don't have, then it will open up the Favourites menu because it treats it as Alt+A.

Garth Farley

A handy enough way for Windows is to know the ascii code number for the character you want, easily found at http://www.asciitable.com, then hold down ALT, type in the number on the numeric keyboard (num lock on) & release ALT.

So for é - hold ALT, type 130, release ALT.

Handy
GF

Yoda

Codswallop. Typing in a numeric sequence is by no means "handy". For a "handier" keyboard layout specification, see my Celtic keyboard site

Capt'n Midnight

Have a look at
http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~oduibhin/mearchlar/windows.htm
for more info - also some apps for other Celtic layouts - welsh etc.

The Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator -
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/msklc.mspx
- if you ever wanted to replace JKQWXYZ etc with ÁÉÍÓÚ

BTW: The Portugese Brazillian keyboard is very handy for getting other chars - it's based on the US keyboard so £/# nand @/" etc. are mixed - but you can use :~^' ` to get umlauts cidellas and accents without having to remember any funny numbers ..

Suaimhneach

i have been pressing alt gr and [ for years, not knowing it was only alt, its saved me to much time, thanking you very much!

The Reaper

Originally posted by Lukin Black
Are you doing it while the cursor is in a text box? If you don't have, then it will open up the Favourites menu because it treats it as Alt+A.

kewl
kinda know something
similar
but thats better

Agent Smith

áéíóú!


so now it works!


woo hoo!

Gleanndún

i just have my computer set to the english (gaelic) setting and it turns the single quotation into a hot key so that ' + a = á without having to hold things at the same time or nething.

i also have my own question tho, how do u make the dots on top of the consonants? ive heard something about something called "latin-8 ascii' but thats not on my computer and i have no idea where 2 get it. ne ideas ne1? go raibh maith agat!

gleanndún

zoro

Alt-Gr doesn't work for everyone, but Ctrl + Alt + <vowel> should work every time

Zoro

Rredwell

emmettogara wrote:

Alt Gr doesn't work on my pc. My regional settings are for Ireland but I can't get fadas working.

Use Ctrl+Alt+vowel instead.

Shoolaboola

i use Ctrl+Alt=the vowel
as in my name Róisín.
i went to an irish primary school, yay me.

bbblueyes

Ctrl+Alt+vowel doesn't work for me. The only way I can get them is to remember the dang #s. Actually I don't remember them, I have a cheat sheet next to the computer. I changed my settings and all it did was switch my " & @. I have win98, if that makes any difference.

dregin

Sounds like you've set you keyboard's language to English(US) instead of English(IE). You should be able to fix that in control panel > Keyboard settings.

Ba_barbaraAnne

I downloaded the gaelspell spell checker from Yoda's website and set it as the dictionary in word 2000. Set the language and dictionary in the spelling options too.

For my own comfort, I set up new shortcut keys for my áéíóú in the 'insert symbol' menu - Alt and the vowel. Still need Control ' for the capitals. I also made a lot of autocorrect words specifically for Irish to cut down on shortcut keys.

coldenmean

ok this forum has helped me thanks guys, but i still have a problem.... the only thing that worked after i changed the language settings an all that was alt + ctrl + the vowel.... only now i have this weird problem... it wont do it on the i's....
áéióú in fact the i wont come out at all.. that was me letting my hand off the other keys to let it type.... i can do Í but not one with a fada... whats goin on!?!?!?!

Ron DMC

If anyone has problems with the alt + ctrl or alt gr methods, the old fashioned method of holding alt and keying in the number for each character still works AFAIK.


é - alt 130
á - alt 160
í - alt 161
ó - alt 162
ú - alt 163

chunga668

I have an extensive tutorial on how to set up your keyboard for Irish characters on my website here...
http://rossn.com/rossn/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=24&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

pog it

What does 'ascii' mean?

GaryOR

pog it wrote:

What does 'ascii' mean?

ASCII is short for "American Standard Code for Information
Interchange"

greenteaicedtea

coldenmean wrote:

ok this forum has helped me thanks guys, but i still have a problem.... the only thing that worked after i changed the language settings an all that was alt + ctrl + the vowel.... only now i have this weird problem... it wont do it on the i's....
áéióú in fact the i wont come out at all.. that was me letting my hand off the other keys to let it type.... i can do Í but not one with a fada... whats goin on!?!?!?!

Same thing happened to me. I made a new language, set its keyboard layout first to US International and then to Irish, didn't matter, no fada i's, every other vowel though.

I tried typing Ctrl-Alt ', then the i, but all I got was ´i. After some poking around, I found this, under the Advanced tab of the language settings, and checked it off. 20269 ISO 6937 Non-Spacing Accent It had to load from my Win XP CD. Ctrl-Alt i still doesn't make the fada i, but Ctrl-Alt ', then i, works. I can live with that.

Suaimhneach

Anyone know how to do it on a mac?

Garth Farley

It's easy on a Mac if you've it set up correctly.

Try holding down the "Alt" key and pressing the vowels aeoiu, you should get áéóíú.

If you don't, do the following: go into System Settings, International & select the Input Menu, and make sure that "Irish" is selected. Unless you type other languages with special characters, it would be advisable to have Irish the only option selected in this list.
-GF

[edit:typo]

O_Murchu

i find the easiest ALT GR+vowel=fada

Beer Werewolf

After following instructions on here, I got it to work on AIM, MSN, Word, etc.

Mine is different: I press Ctrl then ' then vowel.

However it doesn't work on FireFox. Ctrl + Alt + Vowel works on Internet Explorer, however. That same key sequence works for Notepad also.

But nothing for FireFox? Bugger! I'm gonna fiddle with the settings on it...if anyone has any ideas, give me a buzz! Thanks for those who put useful help up, saved me a good deal of time!

EDIT

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/459

This add-on will enable it for FireFox.

áéíóú yep that add-on works - using alt gr & letter

edit: my post moved while responding

nia87

Gleanndún wrote: »

i just have my computer set to the english (gaelic) setting and it turns the single quotation into a hot key so that ' + a = á without having to hold things at the same time or nething.

i also have my own question tho, how do u make the dots on top of the consonants? ive heard something about something called "latin-8 ascii' but thats not on my computer and i have no idea where 2 get it. ne ideas ne1? go raibh maith agat!

gleanndún

I have the same query in reagards to the dots above the consonants. I've tried downloading fonts etc, but still have ALOT of trouble trying to get them to come up on screen!!

Jay Pentatonic

WTF:eek: how haven't I found this out before!!!!!!!!!:eek:
all this time I've been using cut & paste with character map:o this alt gr thing is sooooooooo much easier!!!!!!!!!!!

Go raibh míle maith agat!!!!!

nbrome

I put my language at English (Ireland) and keyboard US International. I still can't get fadas with either vowel + alt gr or vowel + ctrl alt. Or at least, vowel + alt gr gives me a fada now and again - a line of "a" s looks like secret code with a fada now and again!
Oh, and I see those inverted commas I just wrote give me double sets and I have to backtrack and cancel one out. Out of the frying pan?

Poll Dubh

nbrome wrote: »

I put my language at English (Ireland) and keyboard US International. I still can't get fadas with either vowel + alt gr or vowel + ctrl alt. Or at least, vowel + alt gr gives me a fada now and again - a line of "a" s looks like secret code with a fada now and again!
Oh, and I see those inverted commas I just wrote give me double sets and I have to backtrack and cancel one out. Out of the frying pan?

You have to select an Irish keyboard

dubhthach

My work laptop has an american keyboard layout. As a result I downloaded a keymap called "United States-Gaeilge". I can do both fada's and punc buailte
ḃ ċ ḋ ḟ ġ ṁ ṗ ṡ ṫ

Dubhthach -> Duḃṫaċ

AWard

Screen wipes...random dust specks are confusing me as far as punctuation.

What is alt GR?

dubhthach

AWard wrote: »

Screen wipes...random dust specks are confusing me as far as punctuation.

What is alt GR?

It's the key to the right of the spacebar. On some keyboards it might be just a second Alt key:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr

It's what's called a modifier key. For example you can use it to put in stuff like
AltGr + C = ©
AltGr + R = ®

As well as symbols like: ¼½¾¥×÷¿¶×÷§Æ¢µ

AWard

OK...not a native option on my laptop. I installed the firefox add-on though so that may be my best option. Thanks!

Indiego

how about you try this
ctrl + alt + the vowel you want
im only 14, and when i do irish essays etc on my computer i use this, works on every computer ive ever used, regardless of the regional gobbledygook
give it a go
áéíóú

dory

Indiego wrote: »

how about you try this
ctrl + alt + the vowel you want
im only 14, and when i do irish essays etc on my computer i use this, works on every computer ive ever used, regardless of the regional gobbledygook
give it a go
áéíóú

Works on your computers because they all come from the same country I presume?

I really need to get the fadas working. I have an American laptop. No Alt-Gr and the above doesn't work. I have changed the keyboard to Irish and then Gaelic (both under English) but there is no English (Ireland).

Any ideas??

dubhthach

dory wrote: »

Works on your computers because they all come from the same country I presume?

I really need to get the fadas working. I have an American laptop. No Alt-Gr and the above doesn't work. I have changed the keyboard to Irish and then Gaelic (both under English) but there is no English (Ireland).

Any ideas??

My laptop has a US keyboard. You have two options, switch it to "US-International" in which case AltGr + key should work. You can also download and install "United States Gaeilge" which is what I use (under Win 7 x64) http://mearchlar.tripod.com/

craoltoir

http://www.oilte.ie/worddocs/

Select ASCII.doc

Aard

US-International is great for accents or unusual letters for all Roman alphabet languages.

dgcrow

i'm using PowerPoint and your tip helps except it only works on word so i have to keep copying letters off Irish language websites and pasting them onto my document!
It's really annoying
please help

Jemmaa

dgcrow wrote: »

i'm using PowerPoint and your tip helps except it only works on word so i have to keep copying letters off Irish language websites and pasting them onto my document!
It's really annoying
please help

Right-click on EN (next to time and speaker)
>> Settings
>> Add Irish keyboard
>> OK >> You have Irish letters
Now change language EN > IR (Left-click on EN, tick on IR)
When you want á you press Alt(Right)+a, same with í, é, ó, ú.

Hope this will help.

dubhthach

Works fine for me in powerpoint, you just to make sure you have right keymapping in place.

franc 91

Haigh - I find it very frustrating not being able to put in fadas too (and accents for other languages such as Scots Gaelic and Italian) I'm not very gifted when it comes to IT, having never ever been through a training course. You would have thought that they would have come up with some kind of an easy system of doing it - I see that in the early days of typewriters they did in fact have an Irish keyboard. Why can't they do that now? I've heard of 'language bars' that you add on - at least that is what I think they call it. Here in France, I have an AZERTY keyboard and all the accents that you need for French are on it - the computer system we have is Family Vista Windows - I have an Alt key on the left hand side and an Alt Gr on the right and a bit further right there's a Ctrl key - so how do I put in letters with fadas? Help please! (Oh and I don't even have a key for Euro sign, would you believe it)
This is what I have under the numbers é è ç à and I can add ^ and ¨ to vowels and I have ù.