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Your most + least favourite 40k charecter

  • 21-05-2003 8:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭


    Post up your favourite charecter for both 2nd and 3rd ed, see how the response's differ, just a little curious :)

    2nd ed : loved - Kharn, I loved this guy to bits, when he got in close he tore anything to shreds (including his own troops) in a berserk rage....... oh fun fun :D

    hated - Marneus Calgar, Jaysus what a whimp, the Chapter Master of the Ultramarines and hes a complete pansy.


    3rd ed : loved - Abaddon, 1 hit kills with his sword, ultimeate charecter hunter, and with that lightening claw, a high weapon skill and 3 attacks, it hurts.

    hated - Eldrad Ulthran, hes meant to have awsome psychic capabilities able to decimate anything............. but in this edition, he cant do much more than a standard Farseer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Hmm - 2nd Ed. favourites

    Space Wolves:
    Ragnar Blackmane - was a bloody nightmare in close-combat with his berserk fury, 4+ dodge and his ability once per battle to do the wolf-howl and make every space wolf troop (Long Fangs could choose) TRIPLE their charge rate that turn

    Bjorn the Fell-Handed - tough as nails with his reroll plus his ligthening claw made an awful mess up close.

    Eldar:
    Karandras the Shadow Hunter - striking scorpion phoenix lord. Tooled up to the nines and thouroughly unpleasant up close.

    Legion of the Damned:
    Vet. Sergeant Centurious - not necessarily very hard, but his wargear proved VERY interesting to use. And I absolutely love the model :D


    2nd ed. Annoyances:
    Arhiman - I only ever played one game against him, and he just completely dominated the entire game. Just wasn't any fun in the game 'cause you'd do something, he'd just zap your squad or something.

    I might also add that Kharn was also in that particular game against me.

    (yes - I was playing a VERY beardy player)



    3rd ed. Favourites:
    Ragnar BlackMane - still hard, although he's lost his wolfhowl :(

    Ulrik the Slayer - deary me is he a hard b*stard :D


    3rd ed. Annoyances:
    Eldrad Ulthuan - I'll go with Pugsley here. Seriously diluted :(

    ANY of the Phoenix Lords - they've just lost something in the translation frmo 2nd to 3rd ed.

    ALso there's no Njal StormCaller or Bjorn in this ed. either :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    2nd ed. faves:

    Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, Ork Goff warlord.

    A right little bugger in hand to hand (gotta love that adamantium 'eadbutt!) a good shot with a nasty weapon, and he could actually become invincible for one and a half turns wit da powa ov da Waaagh! Nasty, nasty character. And he was mine.:D

    Abbadon was a nightmare, and looks really cool to boot. Eldrad was really, really dangerous, especially as a psyker.

    I have to say that Marneus' Gauntlets of Ultramar used to make him really, really nasty in close combat with a horde of opponents, as they never got an advantage over him. Now though he just has a stormbolter and powerfist. Tch.

    3rd ed faves:

    Asdrubael Vect looks really cool, and is quite the opponent.
    Logan Grimnar looks like a nasty one. Haven't played against him, but saw the stats.

    I really like the Emporor's Champion for some reason. It's not particularly powerful (then again, none of the characters are in 3rd ed...)But looks the business and can be used cleverly to utterly slaughter an army.

    The Red Terror though, has to be my favourite. It looks really nasty, and has some devestating abilities, particularly it's movement rate and the swallowing models whole rule.

    Ghazghkull is no better than a normal warboss with some fancy equipment now, and I think Ork warbosses in general are pretty lousy characters. That's a crying shame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Sigard


    LIKE
    any edition: Kharn is the man, he only likes to do one thing, but mother of god, he does it well.

    Cypher: the latest rules and history make him THE badass in 40k, nobody else even comes close.

    DISLIKE

    Azrael: in 2nd edition, he was pretty good, but with the super dumbed-down rules in 3rd edition, he is pretty worthless (and I am a Dark Angel player)

    Doomrider: what were they thinking! I mean, he was just so bad. didn't make an ounce of sense either, but that's GW for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Funky


    Favourite : Huron Blackheart (i was sad when they took him out)

    Least Favourite : the name is lost to me but the special character Howling Banshee used to own me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Model wise: Jain Zar... Lelith Hersperax...

    Doomrider is pure crap yea, stupid name, stupid background, stupid FACE.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭orangerooster


    Favourite:Since ive only ever played third edition ill have to take from that.
    I really like the emperors champion model.I like my own farseer but thats not a special character so....uh.......Kharn.Also the giant tyrnaid snake beast The red terror?im not sure but the stories about it were very "aliens" and I like those films.

    Dislike:Logan Grimnar I HATE SPACE WOLVES!,doomrider is a ridiculous model and has a very questionable shake and bake background,I hate eldrad because he empitomises how dissapointing eldar psykers are.Damn you gavin thorpe!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    There's some massive equality between characters now. Some characters are woefully pathetic (Eldrad and Ghazghkull for example) while others, such as Abbadon, Kharn, and Nightbringer are ridiculously powerful.

    I don't like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    My favourites have to be Ragnar Blackmane and Cypher

    My most hated are Marnius Calgar and Fuegan the Phoenix lord(not cause hes not cool but because i've a bad history with him!!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    An acquaintance of mine has had Commander Dante die in every battle he has ever played.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    Have to say that I like the Blood Angels charecters, the ones I don't like would be the Emperors champion, takes way to much wargear including your Iron Halo (one per army) and that challenge rule can screw up a fight if he takes on a Chaos Deamon Prince with no retune.
    An acquaintance of mine has had Commander Dante die in every battle he has ever played.
    Thats what they want you to think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭i_am_dogboy


    i've only played 3rd edition rules, favourite character is proably the red terror, great for taking out special characters without any saves being allowed, or drazar

    i hated lelith hesperax, ive seen gaurdian squads or termegants give her and a retinue a good fight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭nosmo


    I hated Commissar Yarrik from second ed (and I played Imperial Guard!) and (they don't really count as characters, but...) All of the greater daemons.. I knew a chaos player who never went into ANY 2nd ed game without two =\


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Two greater daemons? Surely that's stretching the rules, if not breaking them completely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭nosmo


    Think it was against the rules, but he'd kick up a fuss if he didn't get them.. He just played to have bigger armies than anyone eles with no tactics what so ever, so he got his arse kicked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Very stereotypical of Chaos gamers there, I have never used a single Greater Deamon in a battle. In 3rd ed their terrible, they have to possessa charecter to enter the fight..... a random charecter, its even possable to have your main leader possessed, which is commonly worth more than a Greater Deamon.

    In 2nd ed the Greater Deamons were good, but horabbly expensive and a total bullet magnet.

    Remember nosmo, not all chaos players are wee 5 year olds with a rich daddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    IIRC in 2nd ed, your entire character selection was not to be any more than 25% of your armylist total.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Chaos armies in 3rd ed are still perfectly capable of winning without successfully summoning a daemon. Either that or I'm really, really bad at 40K...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭nesthead


    Old Fantasy - Hienrich Kemmler (spelling?) the Necromancer, fecking cool

    New Fantasy - Archaon: what a sweet model and such a beast in battle!

    2nd Edition: Hate Marneus Calgar, jammy and **** and boring at the same time.

    love any of the Phoenix Lords

    3rd Edition: who cares its crap


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Sigard


    Originally posted by Pugsley
    Very stereotypical of Chaos gamers there, I have never used a single Greater Deamon in a battle. In 3rd ed their terrible, they have to possessa charecter to enter the fight..... a random charecter, its even possable to have your main leader possessed, which is commonly worth more than a Greater Deamon.


    thank god it has changed now. the new chaos codex rectified this silly rule, and made the bloodthirster and co a bit more powerful.
    myself, I only used my bloodthirster once since I got it, it's more for modelling and painting. However, it did manage to cause massive destruction to both Steve-o's and Orangerooster's armies (with a little help from Kharn :D )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Heh, i remember playing chaos and LOVING my abaddon figure. not so much for play as he looked sooooo nice and pretty when i finished with him. and yes in second ed (i'm guessing that was the version i played, bout 5 years ago? ) characters were limited to 25% of army selection. One quick question, how different are the rules these days?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    However, it did manage to cause massive destruction to both Steve-o's and Orangerooster's armies (with a little help from Kharn )
    Kharn AND a Bloodthirster?!

    Thats just criminal :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Old One Eye is a beast.

    My Heavy support consists of:

    Old one eye,
    A suped up carnifex with ordnance blast thingie,
    Either 3 Zoanthropes or 2 biovores, depending.

    Tell me... who u gonna aim your lascannons at? (covers up suped up hive tyrant)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    My latest favourite models are my Ork Slugga boyz, who took down an Eldar Avatar and his retinue in my last game. Hurrah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Avatars cant have retinues... can they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    They can have a retinue of a few warlocks if I remember right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Dunno, the opponent was a beardy fellow and no mistake. He actually had kept a list of important kills his Avatar had made. He was NOT happy to have it killed by a squad of basic foot troops...:D

    Anyway, looking at a few pics on the GW website, those Cadian snipers look the business. Snipers rock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    A biel tan army may have had an retinue of exarchs...but taking that down would be QUITE a feat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    A full retinue of exarch's? ouch thats one hefty price tag!

    Would be a monstrous squad in hand to hand tho with an avatar in the middle of em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Note to self: Next army - Biel Tan with LOTS N LOTS OF BANSHEES


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Banshee's are very nasty against the likes of SPace Marine or Chaos, because their valuable Power Armour wont save them, their the ultimate Terminator hunters really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    They're also beautiful models. I was thinking a Biel Tan army with a court of the young king consisting of banshee exarchs, Jain Zar, a whole lot of banshees, some reapers, 3 warwalkers w/ bright lances + starcannons, wraithlord and falcons. All admissable because of biel tan aspect warrior rules :D That would cause PHEER but at the same time look ssssoooo pretty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    The points cost would be huge tho and you wouldnt take much firepower, would need a few falcons to get in close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Fire power in reapers and falcon pulse cannons (OMG THOSE GUNS ARE LIKE WHOA)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    If you want firepower, go for a Fire Prism, them things are VERY nasty when they fire, Lascannon with a blast marker :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I don't particularly like blast markers, they only really ever hit 2 people, 2 1/2 at most. Pulse cannon = Lascannon with D3 shots, good for taking out bike squadrens etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    You cant argue with a battle canon tho, 1 shot, 1 mashed up squad :)

    I always liked my Fire Prism, good for taking down command squads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭regi


    I'm currently loving the new cadian models, they are really sweet. Hated models? Anything I tried paint yellow for imperial fists :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Battle cannon - Massive ordnance marker that'll incinerate about 6 models at a time

    Prism cannon - lil blast marker which'll hit 2 1/2 models at most. I'd just rather pay the extra 5 points for a falcon because you're actually getting more firepower from it plus it can carry troops


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Earthshaker cannon tbh.

    Mmm, strength 9 AP2 Ordnance weapons...

    And double Mmm, for looted Ork weapons...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Looted ork vehicles, fun fun. about as reliable as a chaos Dreadnaught :)

    Put an earthshaker on-top, and you have the most unreliable spam cannon in history (seen a guy kill 8 of his own orks with one of these).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Sure it wasn't me? :)

    Anyway, I'm off to look for more nice piccies of models.

    I shall return.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Joe-Pie


    I only really started playen from 3rd edition on.
    Doomrider sucked balls but some of his parts are good for slanneshi convos. Xypher kicks ass. So does logan grimnar.

    BYATCH!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Special characters look nice, but I really prefr not using them in games. They tend to detract from the tactics and skill needed. If you need an Avatar or Kharn the betrayer, or the Nightbringer, or whoever to win a battle, you're doing something wrong. I buy the odd special characher all right, but rarely do I use them when I could take along another whole squad. It's less certain, and if you win, it's because you were luckier/cleverer, not because a death machine took out a 30-strong squad on turn one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    In 3rd ed special charecters arent unstoppable beats like they were in 2nd ed, in 2nd ed a bloodthirster could EASILY wipe out a whole 10man space marine squad in 2 turns, then fly on to his next squad to wipe out, he was insanely strong, now hes powerful, but not unstoppable.

    I rarely use special char's myself, but I like the odd game with abaddon for sheer kickar*e'ness as hes a superb charecter killer, and good against the likes of terminators/vehicles with that deamon sword, but against mass's of small troops he's not worth his points cost. Id somettimes take Kharn too, just for the fun of him, especially against a light army like Imperial guards, he really cuts them into iddy biddy pieces if he gets close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Tbh i have a thing about special characters in 40k. i believe the ones detailed in the codecs are grand for set battles and re-enactment or scenarios, however i'd much rather convert a model or two, build a history around em, the odd slick weapon (gifted by chaos of course :horned: ) and adjust the points of a chaos lord/champion etc. to suit.

    It suits the game play of 40k more. very few battles are gonna contain these special characters who usually are very high ups, and a skirmish of a 1000 points or so wouldnt really. whereas you're much more likely to find a leader who isnt special enough to be mentioned normally but may be perfectly suited for the scenario. i much prefer the idea of playing to the story than playing to the rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Ah but you gotta have some favourites, I just love the eldar attitude. All the stories about maugan ra and eldrad in recent white dwarf's are great. They're not your typical heroes because they're not human but i cant help but admire them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Aye, ditto. They make for great skirmish games too. Think of a 40K scale Inquisitor campaign based on Abaddon and his bodyguard as a strike team behind Imperial battle lines, Arhiman and a couple of Thousand Sons searching for knowledge, or maybe Chaplain Cassius and a small Tyranid kill-team doing a deep strike in the bowels of an infested hive city...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Aye..but if i use set characters i couldnt convert as much. and i heart conversion core (really must start collecting an army again)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Nothing to stop you converting an existing character... Abaddon converted so he's swing his sword in the middle of a battle would look cool . :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Me no like abbadon, hes mean. Eldrad would pwn him in stories, mebbe on battlefield...


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