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Depo povera

  • 15-05-2003 3:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Has anyone/anyones gf used Deop Provera? I'm thinking of trying it and I'm jut wondering what to expect?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭b3t4


    Depo provera (contraceptive injection which lasts for 3months)

    I went on this, my advice would be to stay well clear of it. Everyone I know who tried it has had some side affects. Find an alternative, I switched to the pill which is annoying to take everyday but you get used to it.

    Also, do a search for depo provera it has been talked about a few times on this board.

    Rgds,
    A.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭bug


    woman i work with get the injection from the ifpa, every 90 days costs less than the pill when you work it out, is progesterone only, apparently safer for women over 30 who smoke, than the pill is, you dont get any periods at all, and she seems fine and enjoys life! Ring the ifpa they'll send you out a leaflet if you ask them to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭The Clown Man


    WWM I think she's aiming at the 5% or 2% or whatever.

    She just wants one or two other girl's personal experiences with it as she can't find them anywhere else. Asking questions is usually the best way to settle your own personal doubts.

    So give her a break.


    And As for the question - my ex g/f thought about it, inquired into it, and firmly decieded against. Can't remember all the details, but she found out that for some reason it's safer to leave it alone.

    I, personally, don't have a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    as part of the mature section of this board (although, with very limited experience in this matter for obvious reasons) my suggestion is that most of the readers of this board are both young, and male.
    also, as one of the people who actually know what youre talking about, i respectful advise that you should probably look elsewhere.

    however, if you want some advice, i would say if you are getting it, then go for the three month injection first because then youa re not stuck with it, however, it may take your body three months to adjust to it, so you are in a bit of a 50/50 situation.
    like any ingested form of contraception, every woman will react differently. some may be fine, others may not. other than that, its just another method of protecting against conception, except that you are stuck with it until it runs out. i think the max dosage you can get is 6 month doses.

    but all this you would have already known. there is nothing different to what you would have known. this is not information based on my girlfriend, but coming from a friend.

    and again, it is no different from any other pill, afart from the fact that it stops periods, or is suppose to. again, there will always be a small % of women it doesnt work on
    oh, and sometimes it doesnt work at all.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    The problem with any contraception that is based on the taking of hormones to suppress the body's natural reaction is that you can have a negative reaction to taking such hormones.

    The problem with a hormone injection is that you're stuck with it - unlike the pill, if you experience continuous breakthrough bleeding because your body doesn't like what you're feeding it, to name one side effect, you can't stop taking it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    WWM, if you have nothing constructive to say then please don't say anything at all. and yes, that is a warning.

    She asked for information and you cut her down, she corrected herself and asked for opinions and you ridiculed her for it, that's just plain ignorance on your part.

    ---

    To the poster, from what I've heard from my college nurse the Depo Povera injection is on the way out, she said that some of the health boards are considering withdrawing it from the market, and so I'd suggest you make sure it'll be available for at least a year in your area.

    One of my friends suffered withdrawal bleeds for 8 weeks straight, she was told that this was particularly severe.

    I've no experience with it personally, but it was actually a topic I was going to bring up.... any other girls have any personal experiences? Or have heard stories from friends, sisters, etc?

    << Fio >>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭Mac daddy


    my girlfriend used to take the injectable pill every six she had to got thr doctor for this injection, she gave it up because of cramps, and one of the side affects of this pill when you give it up she is having her periods every two weeks for a week, and this has been going on for the last four months now, and she was only on it for a year, so she will not go back on it again. :ninja:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    hi there!

    well i was on the depo provera shot for over a year. my personal experience of it was quite negative...i had a lot of side effects such as loads of weight gain, being depressed, constant period for 2 months...the list goes on really. i came off of it, and the side effects are still there. it can take ages for them to go away even after one shot. so you cant really just try it out once, cos if it doesnt agree with you well you will be stuck with the side effects for quite a while. my moods have gone back to normal now, but the weight is slowly coming off...it really wasnt for me.

    i have known another few girls on it, and one had lots of bad side effects and the other found it good. i wouldnt say dont go on it or do go on it, but im just letting you know my personal experience of it. obviously everyones make up is different, so it could be great for you. i am on a pill called yasmin now, its really low dose, and its very good...as beta said, its a pain taking it every single day, but its worth it compared to the shot.

    hope this was of some use to you. if uve any other questions bout it, fire away. :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thank you Guest_Poster.
    I think I'll give it a shot and see what happens...its the only way I'm going to find out I'm one of the lucky ones(imagine no periods! :-D )
    And thank you Smiles - I'll double check that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭b3t4


    Hey again,

    I really would advise you to not consider going on the injection. Waaaay too many side affects if you do get them. You will stop having periods eventually (well this was my experience) which is great but for the first 3mnths you will get constant spotting and the likes. It really isnt worth the hassle.

    I have spoken to a number of women who have been on it (6 personally) and each and every one of them had side effects. Your chances of being a "lucky one" are very very slim.

    A friends aunt who was on the injection ended up having to go to hospital because her periods didnt come back a year after she had stopped taking the injection/shot. It really messed up her reproductive system.

    Another friend who was on it the same time I was grew hair in places she didnt have it before, her arms and the likes.

    As a previous poster suggested the pill yasmin is very good. I went on Yasmin straight after I finished my last course of the injection (which I was on for a year). It conteracted some of the weight which I had put on during my course with the injection. However if you suffer from any form of depression it can aggravate it. I came off it 2mnths ago as I used to get very depressed (suicidle) when I went on my 7 day break. I am now on Minix which has improved my mood quite noticeably.

    There are other long term options available to you (I dont know of any off hand) and I would really suggest you look into them further.

    Best wishes,
    A.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    For medical reasons I'm not able to use the Pill(any of them!) and depo provera seems to be the only solution! (I don't want to rely on just condoms or anything like that!)
    Is there anyone out there whos had a positive experience with it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭commuterised


    I know a girl who was on it, the side effects seemed to outweigh the good it did,
    huge weight gain,
    headaches,
    bad mood swings,

    and also takes a long time to get it out of your system if you decide you want to conceive.

    I'd steer clear of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭Lexie


    Have you looked into the 3 year implant. Its caled Implanon (sp?). I have been on it for almost a year and a half and I find it brilliant. In saying that I did bleed for 2 months when I went on it first but now they have stopped. I didnt have any side effects (weight gain, depression). Its a relatively new contraceptive and I dont know that much about it. If it doesnt agree with you, you can always have the implant removed. The implant is like a match stick which is inserted into your arm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by depo provera?
    For medical reasons I'm not able to use the Pill(any of them!) and depo provera seems to be the only solution! (I don't want to rely on just condoms or anything like that!)
    Is there anyone out there whos had a positive experience with it?

    yes, but it appears there are more complication experiences than there are 'normal' working experiences.

    from what ive seen, there have been compliactions most of the time, but settles out after a few months. guess it depends on how long you want to wait, and it may never be right for you.
    if you have complications with all pills, why do you think this will be different?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch


    If this were my gf, I'd be trying to convince her not to use it.
    It's clearly not safe, and even if it was, I reckon periods shouldn't be stopped altogether. It isn't remotely natural.
    I reckon the real issue here is a heightened fear of getting pregnant, if so deal with that problem first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    My Wife used it for 6 months.
    Didnt work still got pregnant and was a psycho and completley nuts for 6 months and only had sex once during the 6 month period she was on it.

    Seen no good in it t all as the injection made her not want sex (best contraceptive ever so) and she still got the pregnant.

    But brothers wife using it for 5 years and thinks its great has sex life and isnt as much as a psycho(is one in anyway )

    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    [edit]

    Boards guy, I've just deleted all the off-topic stuff on this thread and chucked it in the bin. This post of yours is off topic also.

    No more off topicness please, thanks - Gordon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    The doctors have told me that depo will work while the pill would be ineffective! Thats why I've been looking into it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by depo provera?
    The doctors have told me that depo will work while the pill would be ineffective! Thats why I've been looking into it!

    why?

    what difference is there betweenthe two. i know how the pill works and why, but i dont know what it is that makes this work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm on medication which affects my kidneys so making the pill ineffective, Depo doesn't rely on the kidneys.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by depo provera?
    I'm on medication which affects my kidneys so making the pill ineffective, Depo doesn't rely on the kidneys.

    i wasnt aware the pill effected the kidneys?
    as far as i was aware there are two methods that are used.
    one changes the amount of hormones in the body and makes your body have a period whether you have an egg in your womb or not. also used to regulate heavy or irregualar periods.
    the other changes the structure of the womb wall so that an egg cannot attach and be fertilised/develop.

    ok, i may not be spot on there, but it is something like that.
    im not a biologist or a gynecologist :)
    but what exactly does an injection do that these two methods dont do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    To be honest I haven't got a clue why its different! it just is!!!
    If i were to be on the pill it'd only by 50% effective...not very good odds!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by depo provera
    To be honest I haven't got a clue why its different! it just is!!!
    If i were to be on the pill it'd only by 50% effective...not very good odds!

    this is one of the reasons why i get annoyed at people coming on here and asking about a load of stuff that they should already know.

    however...

    i would suggest you start to read up on it.
    its all well and good to ask about peoples experiences, but at the end of the day, you should be getting expert advice from people who know. one or two people on boards who may use it, or have friends or partners who use it, cannot give you a good spread of experience. from what i have seen, most people have had negative experiences. that doesnt mean everyone will.
    perhaps you need to delv in and get some more information on why this would work for you and why it doesnt work for others along with some scientific statisics.

    you best bet is obviously your GP, or you could try a well woman clinic.

    or.....

    http://www.depo-provera.com/

    http://familydoctor.org/handouts/043.html

    http://www.abcinternetmarketing.com/depo-provera/

    http://www.depo-users.com/

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/BC/depoforyou.htm

    http://www.fwhc.org/birth-control/bcdepo.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    i wasnt aware the pill effected the kidneys?

    Certain amounts of the hormones are absorbed into the water in somebodys system and then it will obviously pass through your kidneys, for people with some kidney problems then this hormal "rush" can cause awful problems.

    as far as i was aware there are two methods that are used.
    one changes the amount of hormones in the body and makes your body have a period whether you have an egg in your womb or not. also used to regulate heavy or irregualar periods.
    the other changes the structure of the womb wall so that an egg cannot attach and be fertilised/develop.

    ok, i may not be spot on there, but it is something like that.
    im not a biologist or a gynecologist :)
    but what exactly does an injection do that these two methods dont do?

    The injection does the same thing, only it doesn't travel through your stomach, is released constantly (instead of once a day), etc. I'm not sure why this wouldn't affect her kidneys tho...

    << Fio >>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I appologise...i meant to say that the medication i'm on is an enzyme inducing drug on the liver(just as well I didn't do Biology in school!) - I read the leaflet with my medication!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭thedrowner


    i've heard a lot of scary stories about the injections, but i've a few positive ones too. my sister in law uses them and has never had a prob.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭Nala


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    i wasnt aware the pill effected the kidneys?
    as far as i was aware there are two methods that are used.
    one changes the amount of hormones in the body and makes your body have a period whether you have an egg in your womb or not. also used to regulate heavy or irregualar periods.
    the other changes the structure of the womb wall so that an egg cannot attach and be fertilised/develop.

    ok, i may not be spot on there, but it is something like that.
    im not a biologist or a gynecologist :)
    but what exactly does an injection do that these two methods dont do?

    Calm down a second. One of the main differences between the injection and the pill is that the pill can be rendered ineffective by antibiotics, stomach bugs, and even vomiting. These don't affect the injection. I was told this by two different doctors and I'm on the injection myself and have done plenty of reading up on it so I know what I'm talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    all this talk of sex and contraception reminds of the *brilliant* sex life I have as a professional computer nerd.

    Life is good.

    /Aside.

    Personally, I'd be very skeptical about hormones as a form of contraception. Things like Silicon Implants and Thalidimide are a testiment to how supposedly *safe* procedures/drugs can be shown to be disasterous, doubly so, if the Health Boards are considering taking it off the market.

    My advice would be not, to go near it, if it's true about the Health Boards and just *make bloody well sure* even if you are drunk and have diminished capacity to act in your own best interests to, make the bloke wear a Johnny. Maybe, if you're that worried do that coil thing....

    shudder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well after all the advice to stay away from Depo Provera when I asked this time last year I'm on it a year and having no problems. I know certain things suit people differently but I've had none of the side effects mentioned in any of the horror stories on the net.

    TypeDef where did you hear that the health boards are considering taking it off the market?


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    my first comment is OUCH!!!
    that needle is huge and it gets jammed into your arse straight into the muscle. It makes your rear sore for a day or two but you are safe for 3 months. The only side affect I have seen (in atleast 3 people) is that it makes you lose weight.

    It is a safe choice IMO and if you are not responsible enough to remember the pill everyday (like myself) then it is a good choice.
    The next best thing lasts for 5 years and My cousin and roomate have it, it is the IUD. It is a wonderful device (the miranda style) and I would suggest you look into that as well when making your choice. It takes a whole minute to be put in by your doc and has minimal cramping after and some people wont have periods again and some will, my cousin didnt my roomate does.

    Just another choice for ya :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭Nala


    I'm on the Depo and it doesn't hurt at all.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    you must have a nice nurse then, when the nurse tends to jam it in it does make ya sore :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Originally posted by BEAT
    if you are not responsible enough to remember the pill everyday (like myself) then it is a good choice.

    Hmm, interesting choice of wording. If you're this irresponsible are you sure you should be having sex at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    edit: fucking typos[1]
    Originally posted by depo provera?
    I appologise...i meant to say that the medication i'm on is an enzyme inducing drug on the liver(just as well I didn't do Biology in school!) - I read the leaflet with my medication!

    TypeDef where did you hear that the health boards are considering taking it off the market?



    Err : http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=907791#post907791

    [1] Pun only marginally intended.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    Originally posted by Sleepy
    Hmm, interesting choice of wording. If you're this irresponsible are you sure you should be having sex at all?

    Dont be a wise fcuk. Many women cant keep up with taking the pill which is exactly why there are other options, and also why there are a ton of kids had by women using the pill. I am sure I am older than you and much wiser in this area...dont test me.
    :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭Nala


    Besides, some women travel between time zones a lot and that can complicate taking the pill at the same time each day, especially with the progesterone-only pill where you only have a 1 hour margin.


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