What's the best F1 sim?

boogie man · 23-04-2003 9:34am #1

Hey, I'm looking to buy a good F1 game for my PC. What's the best out at the momment?

Thanks,
Boog.

ButcherOfNog · 23-04-2003 9:42am

EA Sports F1-2002. Not just for the F1 side, theres tons of very professional mods available for it (see the Simmods site). Its worth buying it for the mods alone as I did, but if yer into F1 then its doubly worth it.

Dr. Dre · 23-04-2003 9:43am

Ohhhh, this may start the GP4 vs EA's F1 2002 debate again.

In my opinion, I think EA's offering just shades it, I have both, but like I say I think EA wins graphics wise. You may be able to get a demo of each of them.

They are;
Geoff Crammonds Grand Prix 4
EA sports F1 2002

EDIT: There is also another Grand Prix sim called Grand Prix Legends, which is faaan-tastic, but it don't use the cars of today, and it is VERY hard, well for me anyway :rolleyes:

SouperComputer · 23-04-2003 9:36pm

the physics model in GP4 is a joke compared to F1 2002.

GPL is a great sim, better than either for online id say ATM, but the mods for F1 2002 are pure class.

Pick up GPL for bout 7e and then maybe get F1 2002, assumin you want a challenge that is.

Dcully · 23-04-2003 10:44pm

GP4 is fun with nice gfx,AI are superb .If your after a great F1 game as opposed to F1 sim GP4 is your man.
F1 2002 is a better sim but tbh i only play GTR2002 mod for it and BMW M3 mod occasionally.
GPL in terms of F1 is in a league of its own.

boogie man · 24-04-2003 8:04am

Thanks for the info. Grand Prix Legends sounds excellent. I'll probably go for F1 2002 aswell!

Boog.

Amnesiac_ie · 26-04-2003 6:53pm

Just wondering, has anybody played EA SPorts F12002 on the Gameboy Advance? Compared to other Gameboy Advance racing games, how does it rate? Screenshots look good but I've read poor reviews

boogie man · 28-04-2003 10:57am

Just wondering - do y'all use a force feedback wheel for racing? I have one but I don't have in the way of room to use it at the momment.

Any suggestions on alternatives?

I downloaded the F1 2002 "work in progress" demo last night. Seems pretty cool.

Boog.

Dcully · 28-04-2003 1:35pm

Im unsure of alternatives as you really need a good wheel or you loose out on so much.Real sims are designed around wheel/pedal setups especially force feedback ones.Ive got the Momo Force wheel and its the best ive ever had,it tells you exactly what your car is up to,quite incredible actually.
GTR 2002 comes with a set configuration for various wheels configured by its creators[real race drivers].
Im using the one for my wheel and im feeling everything,oversteer,understeer,rumble-strips,grass,crashes and braking and accelaration forces[the harder i need to brake the more i feel it in the wheel].
You could try a pad of course but its not the same.

RicardoSmith · 28-04-2003 1:56pm

Is there any other way to get these downloads? I'm on 56k dialup and downloading them myself isn't an option : (

ButcherOfNog · 28-04-2003 2:12pm

whiche ones do you want and where are you?

RicardoSmith · 28-04-2003 2:25pm

Originally posted by ButcherOfNog
whiche ones do you want and where are you?

I'll PM you. Is there no download service around that you can get them to make a CD for you!

boogie man · 28-04-2003 2:26pm

My wheel is a Microsoft Sidewinder 2 (I think! force feed back anyway). As I got this a few years back - how does it compare to today's standards?

Boog.

ButcherOfNog · 28-04-2003 2:39pm

Its fine, its what i use

Balfa · 01-05-2003 11:23pm

i've kinda my head stuck my bum in terms of racing sims for a while. First of all... is it really true that Geoff's GP4 is arcadey compared to F1 2002??? An EA game??? I always thought Geoff's games were the most serious.

Also, i just wanna get this straight... is GTR2002 a mod for F1 2002?

Finally, i have an MS FF wheel, but i prefer to use my MS Sidewinder FF2 stick, even for driving, cos it's too much hassle to set up the wheel and pedals, whereas i can just whip the joystick out and play at a moments notice

ButcherOfNog · 02-05-2003 8:33am

GTR-2002 is a free mod for F1-2002

There are lots of free addon mods for F1-2002

F1 Turbo mod, where you get to drive the following old turbo F1 cars:
1984 McLaren, 1984 Toleman, 1985 Toleman/Benetton, 1985 Renault, 1986 Williams, 1986 Brabham, 1986 Tyrrell, 1986 Lotus, 1987 Lotus, 1987 Zakspeed, 1988 McLaren, 1988 Ferrari

BMW M3 Challenge mod

Alfa 147 Challenge mod

BPR mod

F1 1977 mod (work in progress)
This is one i'm really looking forward to, all the 1977 F1 cars and tracks

and theres more, these are just the best known ones.

boogie man · 02-05-2003 8:58am

Those mods look really great. Can't wait to buy it tomorrow...hopefully.
Is there a mod that lets you drive the old 6 wheeler Tyrell car? I'd love to give it a bash.

Boog.

ButcherOfNog · 02-05-2003 9:31am

you mean this tyrell?

F1 Legends mod, a work in progress

SouperComputer · 02-05-2003 9:41am

GC's games when they 1st came out were good, but then papyrus put out GPL!!!

GP4 is not worth getting, crap physics and a lot of compatability problems it seems.

go to: www.racesimcentral.com and have a look at the forums and see the about of bitching goin on about GP4

Stop reading this post and buy f12002 and GPL NOW!

boogie man · 02-05-2003 10:39am

Yep thats the one! it looks so sweet

I recently downloaded the GPL demo and it wouldn't work. I'm presuming this is because of my windows XP. Is there any patches or anything for the full version so it will work on my pc? Surley people can play it using XP

Thanks,
Boog.

DiscoStu · 02-05-2003 10:44am

later patches for gpl fixed compatability problems and added d3d/opengl support + FF.

gp3 is also good for a quick spin and its better than gp4 by a long shot but nothing comes close to gpl and f1 2002

boogie man · 02-05-2003 10:59am

That's good news! I'll go get GPL aswell then.

Boog.

boogie man · 02-05-2003 2:09pm

I'm just after looking around town (game - grafton st & Dawson St and HMV) and they don't have F1 2002 or GPL. Talk about out of luck!
So I have orderded it from Play.com. They don't have GPL in stock though. So does any one know where I can get my mitts on it?

Thanks,

Boog.

RicardoSmith · 02-05-2003 2:32pm

I've seen it in the bargain/budget sections in Smyths loads of times.

boogie man · 02-05-2003 4:01pm

Oh why, oh why, oh why do I never think of going to Smyths?

Cool, I'll try getting it tomorrow. Thanks.

Boog.

RicardoSmith · 02-05-2003 9:44pm

Easons also has it, saw it in there (Blanch center) today. I'd say the ones in town have the same stock too. Budget version same as Smyths.

SouperComputer · 04-05-2003 3:36pm

you will need at least 2 patches for GPL to run nice.

one is a cpu fix, the other is a patch to run it with openGL or DX, coz software looks pretty duff.

Go to www.racesimcentral.com and go to the GPL links page. It has all you need, VROC (for online racing), patches, graphic updates for cars and tracks, new sounds and somthing like 250 tracks!!

boogie man · 08-05-2003 3:10pm

I got my hands on F1 2002 at last! It is great fun and quite difficult to get to grips with too! It's soooo much better with the old force feedback wheel and pedals - really lets you control the car.
I had a look at the mods for it and was amazed at the size of them. I don't think my poor old 56k modem can handle them. Is there anywhere I could get these on CD? I really want to try the old turbo cars.:D

Still can't find GPL - smyths near jervis centre didn't have it, I'll have to try easons next.

Thanks,
Boog.

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boogie man · 08-05-2003 3:41pm

Looking for another "post of the month" eh?

SouperComputer · 08-05-2003 10:15pm

wtf was that all about?

ButcherOfNog · 08-05-2003 10:34pm

back on subject

Nice pic of the Tyrell behind the Ferrari in the 1977 mod for F1-2002.

SouperComputer · 08-05-2003 11:29pm

drooooool :cool:

boogie man · 09-05-2003 8:13am

drooooool, indeed! looks super sweet

Dcully · 09-05-2003 6:01pm

Boogie man,i can stick GTR 2002 and BPR mod on a disc if you want,PM me .

boogie man · 09-05-2003 8:53pm

PM sent

SouperComputer · 20-05-2003 8:43pm

i PM'd this to boogie man a while back....

back from the future, aungier st, have copies of GPL if anyones looking for em. A snip at 10e

erm, theres N3, CMCr 1 n 2, TOCA 1 n 2 and a few other "legacy racing titles" as well

not sure of the prices on the others, but id say there pretty decent

boogie man · 20-05-2003 8:57pm

...and its damn fine too (and really hard)

Thanks SouperComputer!

Thanks also to Dcully for the mods. I've got great racing games right up to my eyeballs now!

Boog.

SouperComputer · 21-05-2003 9:58pm

did you use the GPL directory i gave you boogieman?

oh, and try oto get five for speed, its savage and always a good race to be had online

boogie man · 22-05-2003 8:31am

Yep, I used that directory- worked a treat

I'm going nowhere near online until I can successfully get some consistant laps in - ie. stop crashing :eek:

Boog.

ButcherOfNog · 22-05-2003 9:55am

A good starting point is to get a nice stable set of setups (like Alison Hines) and get to know a few tracks in the Cooper (called a coventry ingame). Monza is pretty simple to get to know, as is Watkins Glen. No point starting with a twitchy setup in the Lotus at the Nurburg Ring

celticfc · 26-05-2003 8:38pm

F1 2002 is good but i have the german version and my leaving cert german isn't quite up to scratch.

ButcherOfNog · 26-05-2003 9:54pm

..... and why do you have a german version?

SouperComputer · 27-05-2003 10:03pm

kxxxxa!!! :rolleyes:

eyerer · 29-05-2003 8:37pm

recently got f1 2002, its gonna take a while to get used to
for anyone else that played f1 for the playstation, you also know what a crap game that was, f1 2002 is sooo much better

just wish i had Dcully's very expensive steering wheel, the analogue stick is a little difficult to use

definately looks like a promising game, has more features than i expected, multiplayer, driving school and mods, just have to find enough time to give the championship a go

if anyone wants to rid themselves of a momo steering wheel gimme a shout

Dr. Dre · 30-05-2003 7:54am

Originally posted by eyerer
recently got f1 2002, its gonna take a while to get used to
for anyone else that played f1 for the playstation, you also know what a crap game that was, f1 2002 is sooo much better

You're talking about 2002 on the PC right ?, 'cos there is no point talking about "simulations" on those silly little little PS things.

just wish i had Dcully's very expensive steering wheel

Act labs are the way to go ! www.act-labs.com

eyerer · 30-05-2003 11:53am

yea on the pc

Dcully · 30-05-2003 8:57pm

You're talking about 2002 on the PC right ?, 'cos there is no point talking about "simulations" on those silly little little PS things.

lol.
consoles are pure muck for racing sims.All console racers as indeed any console game are dunbed down so much its painfull.
I makes me laugh when people call GT3 a racing sim.
My brother loves his PS2 ,sold his xbox but after playing some real racers on my PC he will not touch a racer on console and who would blame him.
I must confess to my love of pro evo soccer 2 on the PS2

just wish i had Dcully's very expensive steering wheel, the analogue stick is a little difficult to use

I had the thrustmaster Ferrari FF wheel before and got the MOMO for 70 euros in PC world ,they were selling last few off quickly to make way for other products [well thats what they told me when i quizzed them bout low price]
It was a real steal for that IMO.

eyerer · 30-05-2003 11:21pm

Originally posted by Dcully
lol.
I had the thrustmaster Ferrari FF wheel before and got the MOMO for 70 euros in PC world ,they were selling last few off quickly to make way for other products [well thats what they told me when i quizzed them bout low price]
It was a real steal for that IMO.

how long ago was that?
would they still have any?

Dcully · 31-05-2003 8:50am

I was Christmas eve ,would you believe.
Someone posted here about them so i drove from Kildare to Liffey Valley and picked up the 2nd last one.
A month before that i saw the same wheel in PC world for 270 euros.
As Dr Dre says this one is superb btw complete with the GPL[Grand Prix Legends] shifter and clutch.
I had the pleasure of trying this at Goodwood last summer,incredible setup.

http://www.act-labs.com/Products/racingcombo.htm

eyerer · 31-05-2003 11:50am

yea, but that one isn't quite €70

What's the best F1 sim?

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