SERIOUS SUGGESTION - read and reply

Belle Ende

www.boards.ie doesn't seem to have a huge amount of posting activity. That's not to say that it has little posting activity either. It is moderately busy.

I'm glad to have stumbled across this website - I think that with the clean and well-structured layout of the messageboard, it has great potential to get even BUSIER!

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I have a serious suggestion :

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"The addition of an FREE-FOR-ALL sub-board for each forum."


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Each FREE-FOR-ALL sub-board would be made inaccessible to minors, of course. And with suitable disclaimer that each poster is responsible for the content of their posts, not the www.boards.ie operators.

As an example, I find it patronising and silly that the current charter stops someone like me posting a dead-baby joke on the 'Humour' forum. Okay, I'm being slightly facetious here with a stupid example, but you get the idea. Public discussion between adults on ALL topics on these boards should be possible.


The www.boards.ie forums would be much better if such a FREE-FOR-ALL system was put in place. Sensitive users/kids/minors would not lose out - things in the 'main' forums would be unaffected (i.e. the usual restrictions would apply), but many more posters ( de-sensitised? different debate, there ) would frequent this place.

To use a cheesey phrase, it's a WIN-WIN situation for all if this enhancement is to happen.

MAKE IT HAPPEN!
AND SOON, PLEASE!

seamus

Originally posted by Belle Ende
www.boards.ie doesn't seem to have a huge amount of posting activity. That's not to say that it has little posting activity either. It is moderately busy.

ROFLMAO.

I'll let the admins field that one. The last two days has been far less busy than normal. Probably because of the great weather (in Dublin anyway).

There are plenty of forums around which are inaccessible to others. Known as private boards, you don't know they exist, until you see a Moderator with boards under his/her name that you can't see.

The KittenCake board being a good example. Almost anything goes on them. Illegality and hardcore porn being the exceptions....

PM a moderator of one of them if you're interested in joining....



To make a sub-section in every forum would cause boards.ie to become extremely bloated. And also - How do you tell who's underage, and who isn't?

PhilipMarlowe

Sit the **** down and shut the **** up.

logic1

Originally posted by Licksy20
Sit the **** down and shut the **** up.

Hahaha always a classic.

.logic.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Perhaps you could ask Az to enlighten you.

Belle Ende

Originally posted by seamus

There are plenty of forums around which are inaccessible to others. Known as private boards

I see.

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I suppose my proposal is somewhat similar to these private forums you mention. That takes little away from my idea, but practically speaking, I think private forums should be okay for me, I guess.

thanks for the info

daveg

Belle Ende not a great start to your boards postings. Let the flaming begin.

BTW hasn't this been discussed before (over 18's section to boards) ?

DapperGent

I don't think you've really thought about this.

Adult discussion is possible and occurs on all forums even dodgy stuff- there's a thread about anal sex going on PI at the moment.

Kharn gave me a temp ban for a baby joke ages ago on humour. Maybe he just doesn't like them.

A moderator does an arbiter of taste make and he does a good job on a forum I wouldn't moderate with a ten foot barge pole.

Belle Ende

Originally posted by daveg
Belle Ende not a great start to your boards postings.

Hello daveg.

Why? I was being earnest.

smiles

em, suggestions about how to develop the community are usually appreciated more by those who actually have used the boards.

Not just someone who waltzes in and tries to change things.

<< Fio >>

Gordon

Belle Ende whats with the phallic name?

Belle Ende

Originally posted by smiles
em, suggestions about how to develop the community are usually appreciated more by those who actually have used the boards.

Not just someone who waltzes in and tries to change things.
<< Fio >>

Dangerous newbie vs. The wary establishment : The MOVIE!


Seriously though, is www.boards.ie an offical meritocracy? Otherwise, my opinion, even as a new member is just as valid as a long-time member. (Regardless of how informed-or-not I may be)

Puck

Boards.ie is plenty busy. It doesn't need to boost its amount of posts, that's not what this community is about.

Belle Ende

Originally posted by Gordon
Belle Ende whats with the phallic name?

I don't understand. Phallic name?

That's my real name of course. My father, Rear Ende ( "RIP!" ), was french.

Or something....

Gordon

Ah right and yore ma I presume is dead is she?

Belle Ende

Originally posted by Gordon
Ah right and yore ma I presume is dead is she?

Your telepathic powers are astounding! Correct!

Gordon

And your sister is Bitter?

Belle Ende

Originally posted by Gordon
And your sister is Bitter?

STOP PLUNDERING MY MIND! AARRRRGHH!

Gordon

And who would be named "The" in the family?

Belle Ende

Originally posted by Gordon
And who would be named "The" in the family?

Theodore Ende. born yesterday at 3pm. 8 lbs.

woolymammoth

Originally posted by Belle Ende
I find it patronising and silly that the current charter stops someone like me posting a dead-baby joke on the 'Humour' forum.

have you tried to do/done this before or something? under a different name perhaps?

Belle Ende

Originally posted by Belle Ende
Theodore Ende. born yesterday at 3pm. 8 lbs.

so it's been 9 months since the Beginning of The Ende.

Belle Ende

Originally posted by woolymammoth
have you tried to do/done this before or something? under a different name perhaps?

Well, not here. But I've been to other messageboards and they have had restrictive policies.

I don't hold multiple logins for www.boards.ie. This is day 1 for me on here.

I remember back in the heady days of 1999, I used to waste my time with friends logging onto "PaddyChat.com" or some other rubbish 'chat' sites. With multiple accounts of course. Having debates with 'your other selves' was high-larry-us!

DeVore

Maybe we dont want to read dead baby jokes?

Ok, to address your points seriously:

1. Day 1 newbies can say the truest things. My 5 year old niece says things that are smarter then a number of people I know.
Theres no elitism and since you arent a raving nutjob I've considered your proposal.

2. If you had taken a while to find out about the system you wouldnt have looked a little foolish about asking a question which has been addressed and for which a solution has been in place. (PM Azezil for info maybe).

3. Welcome to boards. I've a horrible feeling you are going to fit right in.

4. We arent into more page impressions, its not what drives us. (Gold star for Puck on that count...)

5. how will you stop kids from going into the "adults" area? How will you know they are kids? Asking them is laughable

DeV, Part of the "establishment".

Belle Ende

Originally posted by DeVore

1. Day 1 newbies can say the truest things. Theres no elitism and since you arent a raving nutjob I've considered your proposal.

2. If you had taken a while to find out about the system you wouldnt have looked a little foolish about asking a question which has been addressed and for which a solution has been in place. (PM Azezil for info maybe).

3. Welcome to boards. I've a horrible feeling you are going to fit right in.

4. We arent into more page impressions, its not what drives us. (Gold star for Puck on that count...)

5. how will you stop kids from going into the "adults" area? How will you know they are kids? Asking them is laughable

DeV, Part of the "establishment".

Wow! A poster addresses things in an indepth and straightforward-but-diplomatic manner. Cool.

1. Good. But I am a nut. I'm crazy in the coconut! ( gosh aren't I wacky? ) You've already considered it? Is that code for "...and dismissed the idea?"

2. You're right. "I can't live the buttoned down life like you, Marge. I want it all! I want the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles. I want to live, Marge! Won't you please let me live!"

3. Cheerie.

7. I can't count. Or spel.

5. Of course. But I suggested it in the same vein that Edna Krabapple requested her class not run outside to play.....

daveirl

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Belle Ende

Originally posted by daveirl
Unfortunately that won't really hold up in court.

So a system where a user is asked to verify their age (maybe in their profile) before using a restricted sub-board would not hold up in court? That means that a situation where a child circumvents the restriction by knowingly submitting an age or 18-or-older, means a messageboard provider is still vulnerable to litigation?

Seems odd to me.

Dustaz

The only thing worse than being ignorant is not knowing how ignorant you are. That's Belle Ende's problem. In the text that follows, I won't bother discussing the flaws in Belle's logic, because she unmistakably doesn't use any logic. At first blush, it appears that her allies have an inadequate grasp of acceptable scientific method and data interpretation. However, she does not tolerate any view that differs from her own. Rather, Belle discredits and discards those people who contradict her along with the ideas that they represent. In her wisecracks, gangsterism is witting and unremitting, unregenerate and disorderly. She revels in it, rolls in it, and uses it to up the ante considerably.

An ancient Greek once wrote something to the effect of, "We must continue to monitor her assistants and expose them as the disorganized half-wits they are." Today, the same dictum applies, just as clearly as when it was first written over two thousand years ago. After hearing about Belle's lethargic attempts to disguise the complexity of color, the brutality of class, and the importance of religion and sexual identity in the construction and practice of oligarchism, I was saddened. I was saddened that she has lowered herself to this level.

Other than that, a critical reevaluation of some of Belle's jibes would really be beneficial. Of course, this sounds simple, but in reality, the real issue is simple: Her dupes have the audacity to calumniate helpless ogres. Belle's exegeses serve as a stepping stone to world government. And who will compose that world government? A ruling class consisting of high-handed buffoons.

Belle may outrage the very sensibilities of those who value freedom and fairness right after she reads this letter. Let her. Before the year is over, I, hardheaded cynic that I am, will point out the glaring contradiction between Belle's idealized view of Maoism and reality. I must part company with many of my peers when it comes to understanding why there will be lecherous things said on both sides of this issue within a short period of time. My peers suspect that she is talking out of her posterior. While this is decidedly true, I maintain we must add that this is a lesson for those with eyes to see. It is a lesson not so much about her inimical behavior, but about the way that her new definition of "anthropophysiography" is certainly in disagreement with her inconsiderate, randy smear tactics. But there's the rub; I've tried explaining to her intimates that I'm not going to respond to her activities beyond saying that I hope that this sends a strong message to people across the nation that it's never too late to reveal some shocking facts about her fairy tales, but it is clear to me in talking to them that they have no comprehension of what I'm saying. I might as well be talking to creatures from Mars. It is far too easy for Belle to use fear, intimidation, sedating substances, and other tools to convince what I call silly, sanctimonious low-lifes to transform our whole society to suit her own raving interests. But don't take my word for it; ask any goofy, misguided twits you happen to meet. By allowing her to fix blame for social stress, economic loss, or loss of political power on a target group whose constructed guilt provides a simplistic explanation, we are allowing her to play puppet master.

She is not as tyrannical or intemperate as you might think. She's more so. Yet there's more to it than that. Belle's reports are destructive. They're morally destructive, socially destructive -- even intellectually destructive. And, as if that weren't enough, I don't need to tell you that this is sufficiently illustrated by the ridicule with which Belle's convictions are treated by everyone other than scurrilous hooligans. That should be self-evident. What is less evident is that my general thesis is that Belle's "I'm right and you're wrong" attitude is snotty, because it leaves no room for compromise. I'll talk a lot more about that later, but first let me finish my general thesis: We must uplift individuals and communities on a global scale to ring the bells of truth. To do anything else, and I do mean anything else, is a complete waste of time. What does Belle have to say about all of this? The answer, as expected, is nothing.

I can't count the number of times I've wanted to criticize her conclusions publically for their formalistic categories, their spurious claims of neutrality, and their blindness to the abuse of private power. But you knew that already. So let me add that her latest manifesto, like all the ones that preceded it, is a consummate anthology of disastrously bad writing teeming with misquotations and inaccuracies, an odyssey of anecdotes that are occasionally entertaining, but certainly not informative. Belle's loathsome philippics authorize, promote, celebrate, and legitimize simple-minded, disrespectful Comstockism. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to clean up the country and get it back on course again. Even though Belle insists that she could do a gentler and fairer job of running the world than anyone else, I surely believe that anyone with eyes and a brain can tell that I try never to argue with her, because it's clear she's not susceptible to reason.

If she thinks that she is the one who will lead us to our great shining future, then she's sadly mistaken. Although some feral, scummy mouthpieces for incorrigible gnosticism concede that this is something that Belle ignores in her eagerness to accelerate the natural tendency of civilization to devolve from order to chaos, liberty to tyranny, and virtue to vice, they invariably deny that those of us who are still sane, those of us who still have a firm grip on reality, those of us who still insist that my aim is to break the spell of great expectations that now binds what I call incompetent, disreputable recidivists to Belle, have an obligation to do more than just observe what Belle is doing from a safe distance. We have an obligation to delegitimize Belle. We have an obligation to debate the efficacy of her impetuous morals. And we have an obligation to strip the unjust power from those who seek power over others and over nature. She wants nothing less than to engender ill will. Her vicegerents then wonder, "What's wrong with that?" Well, there's not much to be done with sex-crazed illiterate-types who can't figure out what's wrong with that, but the rest of us can plainly see that we cannot allow disdainful doofuses to pass unnoticed. It's that simple.

Belle thinks it's good that her musings tell everyone else what to do. It is difficult to know how to respond to such monumentally misplaced values, but let's try this: She uses the word "ultraphotomicrograph" without ever having taken the time to look it up in the dictionary. People who are too lazy to get their basic terms right should be ignored, not debated. The ideas backing up her objectives are extremely juvenile and cantankerous. Which brings me to my next criticism of Belle. If she were paying attention -- which it would seem she is not, as I've already gone over this -- she'd see that her votaries tend to fall into the mistaken belief that honor counts for nothing, mainly because they live inside a Belle-generated illusion-world and talk only with each other. In general, classism has nothing to do with escapism. Sure, there are exceptions, but in order to solve the big problems with her, we must first understand these problems, and to understand them, we must operate on today's real -- not tomorrow's ideal -- political terrain.

Belle's stratagems may have been conceived in idealism, but they quickly degenerated into ornery voyeurism. Belle is unable to separate fact from fiction. While this lighthearted statement adds sorely needed humor to an otherwise tense situation, Belle says that people are pawns to be used and manipulated. Yet she also wants to pose a threat to the survival of democracy. Am I the only one who sees the irony there? I ask, because her rantings manifest themselves in two phases. Phase one: silence critical debate and squelch creative brainstorming. Phase two: create an intimidating, hostile, or demeaning environment. Experience should probably indicate that she has been known to say that the most infantile snobs you'll ever see are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. That notion is so wicked, I hardly know where to begin refuting it. Please don't misunderstand me; I'm not saying that "the norm" shouldn't have to worry about how the exceptions feel. In fact, like a verbal magician, she knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak.

I am convinced that there will be a strong effort on Belle's part to create an untrue and injurious impression of an entire people some day. This effort will be disguised, of course. It will be cloaked in deceit, as such efforts always are. That's why I'm informing you that if you read Belle's writings while mentally out of focus, you may get the sense that arriving at a true state of comprehension is too difficult and/or time-consuming. But if you read her writings while mentally in focus and weigh each point carefully, it's clear that her claims all stem from one, simple, faulty premise -- that the Queen of England heads up the international drug cartel. To parody the old song, "Fish gotta swim, Belle gotta cure the evil of discrimination with more discrimination." Okay, there's no reason for me to be unstable, so I'll leave you with this concept: We cannot and we must not allow ourselves to become infected with the fatal germs of alarmism.

CuLT

You deserve this Dustaz...

Gordon

rofl!

And anyone interested in the writings of Dusty the critic can go to the views forum where Dusty does an excellent write up of the First post on the "Views board"

DeVore

You know I've never had to actually tell anyone this before... I'm kinda blushing

Belle Ende, I'm one of admins here so when I say "considered your proposal" I mean just that. I considered it and wrote the points I did as the in reply.
Legally you can click on anything you like in terms of agreements online but they dont hold water in court. If we "broadcast" it (as web is considered to be), then we are legally responsible for it. We can get away with moderating posts subsequently because it shows non-negligence but if the forum were specifically for adult things and we got people angry that their kids were able to read it, we could be in hot water.

We've sailed as close to that line as I think we want to go.

DeV.

yossarin

In my last letter, I claimed that Mr. Dustaz , Esq. is a small part of a large movement that seeks to gum up what were once great ideas, and that claim is even more true now. Here's my side of the story: One of the great mysteries of modern life is, Why do we put up with him? That's the question that perplexes me the most, because he is totally wicked. We all are, to some extent, but Dustaz sets the curve. So far, this letter has merely identified the ways in which we have to start talking with one another honestly, in honest language. Now, let me shift gears and start telling you about how last summer, I attempted what I knew would be a hopeless task. I tried to convince Dustaz that the union of theory and practice, in his hands, becomes a union of pomposity and philistinism. As I expected, Dustaz was unconvinced. If you look back over some of my older letters, you'll see that I predicted that he would dispense outright misinformation and flashlight-under-the-chin ghost stories. And, as I predicted, he did. But you know, that was not a difficult prediction to make. Anyone who has bothered to learn even a little about Dustaz could have made the same prediction. I could be wrong about any or all of this, but at the moment, the above fits what I know of history, people, and current conditions. If anyone sees anything wrong or has some new facts or theories on this, I'd love to hear about them.


hey - this is easy - is this how bob and jc do it ?

Hobart

Originally posted by DeVore
You know I've never had to actually tell anyone this before... I'm kinda blushing

Belle Ende, I'm one of admins here so when I say "considered your proposal" I mean just that. I considered it and wrote the points I did as the in reply.
Legally you can click on anything you like in terms of agreements online but they dont hold water in court. If we "broadcast" it (as web is considered to be), then we are legally responsible for it. We can get away with moderating posts subsequently because it shows non-negligence but if the forum were specifically for adult things and we got people angry that their kids were able to read it, we could be in hot water.

We've sailed as close to that line as I think we want to go.

DeV.

Am I missing something here? Why are you 'blushing'? Did you not cover your points well enuf in your previous post.

i.e.

1) You've considered her proposal

2) She obviuosly has not read the Newbie FAQ so off you go and do that

3)Welcome to boards

4)We know what drives 'us'

5)No adult areas.

What am I missing here. And why the big cut & paste job from Dustaz??

Thorbar

The term get some skillz comes to mind hobert.

Hobart

Originally posted by Thorbar
The term get some skillz comes to mind hobert.

Eh. Thorbar. I asked a simple question. Now if you don't want to give me an answer or you want to be smart about it then don't bother. :rolleyes:

hussey

God usually doesn't need to tell people he is God


I think that's why he is blushing

DeVore

Because, and this may make some of you laugh, I actually DONT like going around saying "well I'm the boss here, and you better get used to it!". (read this to know how I think about Boards).

Despite the fact that my role here is to be the "bastard operator from hell" I dont think you could point to many cases where I have come into a valid discussion about the community and thrown my weight around because I'm an admin.

So when someone obviously hasnt twigged that I'm a little ...um... different from other responders I get all shy and embarrassed when I have to tell them...

Ok you can all stop laughing now. Or I'll ban the lot of you.

DeV.

Hobart

Cheers lads. The eh, penny has, well you know..... (and I should have read the Belle Ende reply a bit more carefully)

amp

Originally posted by Belle Ende

1. Good. But I am a nut. I'm crazy in the coconut! ( gosh aren't I wacky? )

And also an Avalanches fan I'll wager.


TO AN OPTOMETRIST!

Nevyn

Ah poor DEv

you know you could just change ur tag line to make sure that this does not happen again

Hi Belle

no just cos ur a newbie does not mean if you have something vaild to say it will be ignored but it will be ( and has been already) that you should learn about what a place is like before judging and the FAQ is full of fun nifty facts about Boards.ie .

have fun see you in the Threads.


P.S. Dev

Just how soon will those avatar lockouts be advailibe

DapperGent

Originally posted by Thaed
Just how soon will those avatar lockouts be advailibe

Yeah I wonder how much I'm going to have to pay Truckle to have exclusive rights to this Gary Larson cow.

I like Truckle though he's nice.

But a man's cow is his palace.

Corega

Hmmm www.whores.ie....interesting.

seamus

Originally posted by DapperGent
Yeah I wonder how much I'm going to have to pay Truckle to have exclusive rights to this Gary Larson cow.

I like Truckle though he's nice.

But a man's cow is his palace.

It's a sheep, Dapper.

DMT

Originally posted by seamus
It's a sheep, Dapper.

LOL*

* I'm sure who this is directed at as the avatar is called "Far_Side_-_Cow_2.gif"

seamus

Originally posted by DMT
LOL*

* I'm sure who this is directed at as the avatar is called "Far_Side_-_Cow_2.gif"

Ah well then he's forgiven for making the mistake. Because it actually is a Gary Larson sheep, not a cow.

Sheep


Cow

Belle Ende

Originally posted by amp
And also an Avalanches fan I'll wager.


TO AN OPTOMETRIST!

Pour juice on your chin! It's a pity that it is only online that I encounter people who like artists I like. Most of my friends are content to think Sugarbabes/Avril/Top30 are the pinnacle of contemporary music!

DapperGent

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This is a cow, it practically screams bovine.

It's the cowiest avatar in Cow Town.


Truckle help me out here.

sceptre

Always assumed it was a cow.

Not being from the city originally, I have actually seen cows. Looks like a cow to me.

amp

Originally posted by Belle Ende
...Sugarbabes..

ROUND ROUND ROUND ROUND ROUND ROUND!!!!!!

Dustaz

Originally posted by Belle Ende
...Sugarbabes...

its Sugababes fs

Wolf

Dustaz while I didn't read all of your post I did read a rather large chunk of it.

I have found the while you stick to the point well and the descriptive text is marvellous, I did ,however, notice that portions of the text in a gramatical sense were some what lacking.

I understand from someone like me that can read if not write particularly well this might seem biggoted, however, I just wanted to point this out due to the fact that I was wondering how you managed to make your post so long. Now I know.

Ninja:ninja: