Max Payne

Chubby

The graphics, the voice acting, the story and the way it's told in a graphics novel style, the slow motion shoot out (bullet time)...everything is top notch. Didn't expect it to be this good but I am well impressed. Get this when it's released.

Swifty

Im planning to..

Pepe LeFrits

Seems very good so far. I don't like the voice acting though, Payne's voice sounds like something out of a bad B movie and some of his lines are pretty painful. Still, the bullet time is class

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Cake Fiend

NYOM

Jimi-Spandex

Saw the video of this in pcg. I believe sico hit the nail on the head when he said

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yes bullet time is an interesting thing as its like an imitation of the matrix yolk

GreenHell

" Seems very good so far. I don't like the voice acting though, Payne's voice sounds like something out of a bad B movie and some of his lines are pretty painful. Still, the bullet time is class "


Strange you can say thay seeing as how the game isn't released yet....

Chubby

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jimi-Spandex:
yes bullet time is an interesting thing as its like an imitation of the matrix yolk</font>

Jump diving into a room in slow motion while shooting with 2 guns in your hands, surely that's a John Woo thing . Interestingly enough, the 2nd difficulty level is called Hard Boiled, can't remember the rest.

As for the voice acting, yeah the imagery in the monologues can be over the top but I though it works quite well. And the quality of the voice acting is very good.


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adnans

i was nearly crying last night... watched the intro while i lit a smoke...the tension and the emotions ran until 4am until sleep took over...its a classic.

adnans

amp

The demo of Max Payne is alledgedly exclusive on this months PC Format for those hpb'ers/snl refugees out there. Gonna play that this weekend.

Op Flashpint got a good review so based on that and the good reaction here to it I'm going to pick up that and probably Blue Shift because, despite it's 74% review, it'll be nice to have orange, green and blue Half-life cds.

Someday I might actually get sick of FPS. But not today, oh no.

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Mikill

I read the feature in PCG and the Makers of Max Payne - reckon that they had thought of the idea of "Bullet Time" before "The Matrix" was released.

Cool

Kix

I'm really curious to find out how the third person perspective plays. How do you guys find it?

K

AMP: I guess this is a TPS?

[EDIT: Am I the only one who thinks that Max looks permanently constipated? ]

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Mills

From what I've played, it's very, very ****ing good

Cake Fiend

Bit short on the first play, but when you finish it you open up new (harder?) modes to play; as far as I can see the modes you open are decided on how you play (I got New York Minute and Hard Boiled, while Dead on Arrival, which is between the others on the menu is still blanked out).

Best game I've played in a long time; I'll never get tired of watching those sniper rifle bullets zooming toward the victim in slo-mo
Essential purchase methinks.

logic1

Best game I've ever played in my whole life.

.logic.

Fidelis

I'm quite dissapointed with the game to be honest

Forty quid of my hard earned pilaging money spent on what shouldn't have taken 4 years to make.

The bullet time is a nice innovation. I'll give it that. The gameplay gets a bid repetative though. Once I had slow-mo'd my way down stairs a few time in mid-air(which I must admit was a damn good laugh ), it got a bit repetative. It came to a point where you couldn't really run in with all guns blazing in real time, slow mo was a necessity.

It's alright, besides the finicky slow-mo action, there's nothing special

Not worth £40 and shouldn't have taken 4 years to make.

All I can hope is that DN Forever is not as dissapointing as this.

amp

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kix:


AMP: I guess this is a TPS?

[EDIT: Am I the only one who thinks that Max looks permanently constipated? ]
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**** . Max is TPS? I fupping hate TPS! Ah well sure I'll give it a bash.

But seriously though, why do programmers think that a camera outside of the head is a good idea? It's pants that's what it is. I mean it's just plain wrong. Platformers can get away with it allright but that's cos we've always looked at the character from the outside. But for shoot em ups, give me first person pers. or give me, quite literally, death.

Even Tomb Raider has an excuse to go outside the head, and we all know what that is. But TR is essentially a platformer for the thinking man/woman.

<end intoxicated rant, must go off now and give out karma indiscriminatly >

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Hunter-FLUID

Form what I have played this is a class game......
Lets hope more games come out Like this one......

Dont be at yourself

Yes, but if you've played First Person Shooters featuring dives etc, you'll see why they opted for the third-person perspective.

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Lex_Diamonds

Wowza! This game is frickin fantastic!! I'm never going to get tired of tearing through a room of Wiseguys with duel Ingrams as I float gracefully through the air. I love the story board style and I think the voice acting is escellent, including the various conversations the bad guys have

Get this game, especially if you have a l33t system.

Q_Ball

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Logic1:
Best game I've ever played in my whole life.</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lex_Diamonds:
Wowza! This game is frickin fantastic!! I'm never going to get tired of tearing through a room of Wiseguys with duel Ingrams as I float gracefully through the air. I love the story board style and I think the voice acting is escellent, including the various conversations the bad guys have

Get this game, especially if you have a l33t system.

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Ditto.

Have had to tear myself away to get some sleep. It's got the kind of story that keeps you rivitted, with 'edge of your seat' action

Liked the little 'john woo' joke

And frankie is going down.................

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Cake Fiend

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kix:
[EDIT: Am I the only one who thinks that Max looks permanently constipated? ]</font>

Looks a bit like a consipated DeVore

OConnor

http://maxpayne.godgames.com/main.htm
thought it might make sense to have the Url on this thread...
PCGamer gave it 95%..
but im not inclined to trust them after the
Black & White *blatent overmarking and hype*.
I'll save my cash until i get the demo ...

PS. Wtf does NYOM mean

Optimal (highest graphical detail):
1000 MHz Intel/AMD Processor (or compatible)
192 MB RAM
64 MB Direct3D Compatible Graphics Card

1 ghz ! 192 Ram! 64mb Gfx!


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pol

Is there not a toggle of TPS to FPS?

Pepe LeFrits

I completed it after 2 stints of about 7 hours each, the only reason i took a break was because it was 4am and i had to go sleep

The game is fantastic, although having finished it i question its replayability, especially with no multiplayer mode. And whats the story with those dream levels? They are completely pointless, irritating and the game would be much better without them.

A great game the first time around, but i don't think i'll be coming back to it...

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Cake Fiend

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by OConnor:
1 ghz ! 192 Ram! 64mb Gfx!

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Weh, I was playing on a p3 450, 128MB, Radeon with high GFX settings running at a fair auld whack.

Lex_Diamonds

I love the voice actors they used for the mafia dudes, bang on, and pretty funny sometimes

Asuka

It is RIDICULOUSLY good.

And it was conceptualised long before the matrix - there was a guy on the quake scene ages ago called MaxPayne.

I have an unuasual urge to say something which may already have been mentioned, and im not entirely sure what it means.

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BNC

hi guys, anyone now if there is a playable demo available for download?
I see a patch (v1.01) has already been released if anyone is interested.

Stephen

I saw it in action in nethouse - on the same machine's sico was playing on - and it looks bloody gorgeous. I want this game

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OConnor

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sico:
Weh, I was playing on a p3 450, 128MB, Radeon with high GFX settings running at a fair auld whack.</font>

I got those specs off the website..
a mate of mine told me he had a p3 500 , 128 ram with a tnt2 running 14 fps
Is the Radeon a 64 mb card? the gfx card always makes the biggest difference..
that sounds encouraging though.

vacca

it is ridiculously good. the gameplay and graphics are so good, you just can't stop playing it.

only bad point i can think of is I finished it too quickly. there is the hard-boiled version though, should be even better then.

vac

orangerooster

im waiting for the ps2 version cause the min specs will be to much for my pc and i say many many others i here its min memory is like 256 or even above

Swifty

As far as i know, the min memory is 64. You wont see 256 mb's on a minimum requirements list for a couple of years yet methinks.

Hobbes

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Swifty-:
As far as i know, the min memory is 64. You wont see 256 mb's on a minimum requirements list for a couple of years yet methinks.</font>

Windows won't even run in 64MB, so I doubt the game will either

.ak

Absolutely amazing looking. I'm going to be playing that non-stop as soon as one of the cafe's (Netshop or DnC) get copies in... Nyomnyom...

The only thing I don't like is the way Payne is always smiling in that gayish way.

-Dark-Angel-

Kix

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Hobbes:
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Depends on which version of Windows you're talking about, Hobbes. I've often seen 95 running (somewhat unhappily I'd admit) on as little as 12/16MB in the past.

K

OConnor

I got it (!)
It runs sweetly actually. Loads of Detail, smooth frame rate , bullet cases bouncing around in slow-motion ...
Its very Linear and perhaps a tad repetitive though(?)
Great story, Guns , and slow motion ...
mmmmmmmmmmmmm

TinCool

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kix:
Depends on which version of Windows you're talking about, Hobbes. I've often seen 95 running (somewhat unhappily I'd admit) on as little as 12/16MB in the past.

K

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I used to run windows95 on a 485dx4-100 with 8 megs of RAM. Upgraded to 16megs which made the world of difference. Ran win98 on my p200-mmx with 32megs and it ran fine.

Fidelis

Just finished it a few minutes ago.
My opinoin hasn't changed much, it's utterly impossible to kill the tougher enemies without your trusty Bullet-Time.

Like Kaz, I doubt it's replayability.

Some jokes thrown in for good measure, one in particular had me in stiches

Chubby

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Fidelis:
Just finished it a few minutes ago.
My opinoin hasn't changed much, it's utterly impossible to kill the tougher enemies without your trusty Bullet-Time.
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Naaa, I wouldn't say it's impossible to kill the tougher bosses. Bullet time makes them easier to deal with but you can outsmart the AI. The hit and hide tactic works well against most baddies. I remember the guy at the end of the car park was tough. When he first appears he'll throw grenades at you and then use dual Ingram. So just run up to him and unload a full magazine of jackhammer ammo into him as soon as you see him (only tried that cause he kept on killing me )


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rumpelstiltskin

I'd say I must be at the end pretty soon.
But its a really great game, its a pity that you cant reload the scenarios...
You know like the way you can go back and play the comic book bits,well you should be able to play on from there,cos there are some pretty cool fights...
I liked the trippy valkyr bit too, "I'm in a graphic novel...I'm in a computer game..."
That was cool
reminds me of the time I took Valkyr...

Dustaz

I really should get the demo sooner or later.
One thing thats annoying me, The Matrix did not invent 'bullet time'. Time Slice (to give it its 'industy' name , man) has been around for years, i first saw it in a commercial in 91 i think. Remember the Stones video for 'Like a rolling stone'? Matrix me granny

Hobbes

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kix:
Depends on which version of Windows you're talking about, Hobbes. I've often seen 95 running (somewhat unhappily I'd admit) on as little as 12/16MB in the past.

K

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Depends very much on what you define as "running". Waiting 10 minutes for windows to load and have it disk trash for 1 minute every time a program does something is "running" then yes it does.

.ak

Is it true it's coming out for the PS2?

adnans

<-- is this icon MaxPayne or is it Tanner from Driver?

adnans

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Fidelis

It's the same image as is on the actual MaxPayne CD.

adnans

its a remarkable incident that the icon which was used on bulletin boards all around the world would be adopted by a game company as their main character, and that the game is absolutely fantastic.

same goes with this little fella (duke nukem 3d) and this one too (some game called quake?!?). the conspiracy theory is born (or am i just bored out of my títs?)

adnans

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OConnor

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by adnans:

(or am i just bored out of my títs?)
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Is that a rhetorical question?

.ak

Actually, that Icon ( ) was taken from the Comic book. Check out the top left hand corner, some of the issues had that picture.

-Dark-Angel-

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Demo dammit when do I get my demo!?

bonkey

Good game.

Not perfect, but good.

The voice-acting in the graphic novel scenes is del;iberately hammy - kinda giving it that "Mike Hammer" feel. Reminds me a bit of the voice-acting from Gabriel Knight actually. The idea of a graphic novel is well cool, although I was disappointed that at some points this was forgone for "game-engine cut-scenes".

Bullet-time is wicked, but has anyone else noticed that when moving from bullet time back to normal time (most notably after doing a shootdodge move) your guns either stay firing slowly for a fraction of a second, or stop altogether. Minor niggle, but there you go.

Third person perspective cuts down the redraw requirements while pulling a dive manouver. I have to say it is the best TPS implementation I've seen - the camera is very smart about its positioning.

I think the "self-modifying difficulty" is a great idea, and seems to work pretty well. You do crap for a while, and you notice that the guys are constantly missing with the first bullet or two. THen run off a couple of headshots and all of a sudden you are facing much tougher opposition.

As for the game being short....well....I'm only managing to spend 30-60 minutes on it each night, so I'm hoping it will last me several weeks before I even get to play it on Hard Boiled. Hell, I havent gotten anything larger than twin Ingrams yet.

Weapon variety is ok, but not great. However, each weapon is very distinct in its behaviour, and I've found myself switching between Deagle, single and dual Berettas, both shotguns, single and twin ingrams a lot, as well as having fun with molotovs and grens. I like this - a game where there are (so far) no completely pointless weapons. Neato.

With the level-editor included (which is a neat editor) and a deluxe editor on the way, I think we can expect a lot of custom maps and mods in short order....which will partially make up for the lack of multiplayer.

On that issue - realistically - you couldnt do bullet-time in a multiplayer game which is one of the main reasons it was dropped.

Overall....good game. Possibly a great game, but apparently a bit short. Some minor graphic glitches, but otherwise damn sweet.

jc