Name for our Seminar

LegacyUser

We are looking for a catchy title for our seminar on 29th August.

When I spoke to Mary O'Rourke about it (name-dropper ) - she suggested something along lines of "cheap access" but personally I don't like word 'cheap'.

I think "Getting Ireland Online" would be a great name but as Esat, Eircom and ODTR will be there as well as the Minister, I think it is too pointed towards one party !

Other ideas I have had are:

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Better Access - Faster

Internet Access Now!

Getting Ireland Connected

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Any ideas or suggestions?

Martin


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LegacyUser

Ireland off line, internet in ireland seminar
Ireland off line connective seminar
Ireland off line connecting people
the future of interent in ireland

LegacyUser

Don't think we actually need IOFFL in title as it might be better in sub-title,something like:

.....Getting Ireland Connected......
A Seminar on Internet Access Hosted by IrelandOffline


Martin

LegacyUser

How about

online ireland
A Seminar discussing the efect of internet in ireland on the average person,
hosted by Ireland off line


internet/internet Ready Ireland
A Seminar discussing the efect of internet in ireland on the average person,
hosted by Ireland off line


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LegacyUser

How about,

Internet Access For All

Affordable Net Access

The Net Cost (i suppose we could make a silly pun on the word net)

No more frustrating, debilitating per minute billing and we will be able to use the net at a reasonable price. Won't we all be happy then!

Flat Rate Net Access

Freedom To Surf

The Internet without the cost

Bringing the Internet Forward

Staying on-line without the fine


i dunno, i amn't sure

dahamsta

Major keywords for me are "available" and "affordable". Everything else is just pants.

adam

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by o_donnel_abu:
.....Getting Ireland Connected......
A Seminar on Internet Access Hosted by IrelandOffline
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I like that one from Martin.

with subtitle
"Joe Punter and the net"

LegacyUser

how about something catchy like...

"Goverment and Telco's unite! Stop scratching your arses and do what we say! We all want free OC3 lines with no bandwidth caps.. Give it to us, I saaaaid GIVE IT TO US or i'll hold my breath till i turn purple!"

something along those lines.. maybe a bit long for a billboard but catchy none the less.

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rymus:
how about something catchy like...

"Goverment and Telco's unite! Stop scratching your arses and do what we say! We all want free OC3 lines with no bandwidth caps.. Give it to us, I saaaaid GIVE IT TO US or i'll hold my breath till i turn purple!"

something along those lines.. maybe a bit long for a billboard but catchy none the less.</font>

Serious amounts of LOL goin on here @ the moment. Maybe somebody needs to spell it out to these ppl becuse they obviously haven't got the msg. here-to-fore !!


80p.

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www.80project.com

LegacyUser

What about:

"The Net will make us all one"
Internet Seminar hosted by Ireland Offline.

Or something around that point that the Internet will make us all come together, like the whole Island of Ireland, not just two countries.

Or probably something more about The EC like:

"Internet in Ireland compared to the rest of the EC members"

Anyway, probably they sound silly, but at least it's something.

JamworkS

LegacyUser

The Internet Society plugs the slogan "The Internet is for Everyone".

What is the actual objective of this seminar - i.e. to get as much of society o the internet, or maybe to separate the truth from the spin?

What are the telcos going to spend their floor time talking about?

Hehe.. how about "The Irish Telcos Truth and Reconciliation Congress"

"Telco Celebrity Deathmatch"

LegacyUser

I like "Getting Ireland Connected". It's simple and quite short, and that's what IrelandOffline ought to be about.

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dahamsta:
Major keywords for me are "available" and "affordable". Everything else is just pants.

adam

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I am fully backing adams suggestion. Maybe we could throw in a "for everybody", which could focus on
a) the price-issue (affordability for the oridinary Joe Blox) and
b) the OS issue (MacOS, UNIX,, LINUX, etc. users should be able to connect as easily as Windows users).

LegacyUser

not for everybody, as it makes us sound like were being real,

compaign for affordable and available internet

LegacyUser

how about

!!!DIE!!! EIRSCUM
-DE-

LegacyUser

you need to be more suttle,

burn in the firely arm pits of satan in hell
something like that

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dahamsta:
Major keywords for me are "available" and "affordable". Everything else is just pants.

adam

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I like idea of word 'faster' in there somewhere - double meaning as in faster downloads but also making it happen faster

Somethinh like..."Affordable access - faster!"

LegacyUser

well lets not, as faster could mean were skying away from those who will for a long long time be stuck with 56k

LegacyUser

what about a title such as Ireland unmetered or "access denied" not great i know but just a thought.

LegacyUser

BTW, we will NOT be having a vote on the name !!!

(Joke for longest serving members of IOFFL )

Martin

LegacyUser

I'm just wondering about having the term "seminar" in the title.

To be honest, I think it would put a lot of people off.

Why not try something like "The Ireland Offline Net Meeting"? (being careful to insert a space between the last two words to avoid infringement of copyright!)

It's a sort of play on the name of a piece of software which is for (video) conferencing which is basically what the meeting will be.

Anyway, just thought I'd put in my ha'penny's worth.

Mike

LegacyUser

What about:

"Faster InterneT Faster" or

"WWW: World Wide What?"

JamworkS

LegacyUser

eIreland: The Net Imperative

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"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action, according to our will, within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others"

dahamsta

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rickoshea:
eIreland: The Net Imperative</font>

Class! That one's a winner folks.

adam

LegacyUser

wouldnt you be worried about the obrien eIsland and our eIreland comparison

LegacyUser

I kind of like rickoshea's "eIreland: The Net Imperative" although wondering if it is specific enough. But it does have that sense of urgency we are trying to suggest.

Also, Delphi91 might have a valid point about calling it a "seminar". How about calling it a "summit"?

"eIreland: The Net Imperative"
An Internet Summit hosted by IrelandOffline

LegacyUser

it not a summit its a seminar, thats what it is

dahamsta

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:
wouldnt you be worried about the obrien eIsland and our eIreland comparison</font>

Nope. We don't seem to be having any problems with the Ireland Online and Ireland Offline comparison thus far. It's also topical, in that the meeja will pick up on the comparison and use it. I like it.

adam

dahamsta

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MyPerfectCousin:
I kind of like rickoshea's "eIreland: The Net Imperative" although wondering if it is specific enough. But it does have that sense of urgency we are trying to suggest.</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
im·per·a·tive (m-pr-tv)
adj.
Expressing a command or plea; peremptory: requests that grew more and more imperative.
Having the power or authority to command or control.
Grammar. Of, relating to, or constituting the mood that expresses a command or request.
Impossible to deter or evade; pressing: imperative needs. See Synonyms at urgent.

n.

A command; an order.
An obligation; a duty: social imperatives.
A rule, principle, or instinct that compels a certain behavior: a people driven to aggression by territorial imperatives.
Grammar.
The imperative mood.
A verb form of the imperative mood.
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It's that word that makes me like it, I think it does suggest urgency, and it also suggests a requirement: it's imperative that the problems be ironed out; it's imperative that unmetered products and services be made available; it's imperative the the local loop be unbundled; it's imperative that the ODTR, Eircom and the OLO's start to sort things out.

It's imperative that I shut up now?

adam

LegacyUser

i agree, theres 2 votes do we have a third

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:
it not a summit its a seminar, thats what it is</font>

That might very well be the case.

But remember, the object of the exercise is to put bums on seats and to get the message across to the great unwashed.

So, to do that, you have to attract Joe Public. And the only way to attract Joe Public is to make the meeting attractive.

The meeting has to be marketed and part of that is a suitable name. In my opinion, I don't think that using Seminar in the title would be appropriate. To my mind, it smacks of a business meeting/conference, academic summer school etc. And that's the last thing that a member of the general public will want to attend, especially mid-week.

Call it a meeting, or something similar. But I don't think Seminar is wise.

Anyone on the list into marketing???

Mike

LegacyUser

then dont use it, no one said you had to, to use summit could give a totaly wrong impression

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:
then dont use it, no one said you had to, to use summit could give a totaly wrong impression</font>

That was my off-the-cuff brainwave. I was thinking summit as in important meeting of leaders of (usually opposing) groups. Also attaches some importance to it.

It might be a bit pretentious though, and again it was just an offthecuff suggestion.

Seminar does imply that there's some teaching or training going on, and I'm sure the Eircoms/esats would be very comfortable with that, although our members are probably not going there to get a lesson from Eircom.

OTOH, seminar also implies some interactivity with input from the attendees, so..........whatever.

LegacyUser

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LegacyUser

sorry about the double posts folks.
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and it won't let me delete them.

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The Sweeper

We could risk copyright infringements on a number of levels with:

Ireland and the Internet - to Infinity and Beyond

The Bigger Better Faster More Internet Seminar

Or go the cheesy route:

The Irish Internet Conference - Access all Areas

Ireland and the Internet: Blazing a Trail, not Trailing Behind...

Should I stop now? I think I should stop now...

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It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

dahamsta

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Anyone on the list into marketing???</font>

Depends on your definition of "into". I'm not a professional marketer, but there's an element of it involved in my business. I'm mostly just interested in it though. And thinking about it now, I think whoever suggested that "seminar" mightn't be right, uh, might be right...

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">sem·i·nar (sm-när)
n.
A small group of advanced students in a college or graduate school engaged in original research or intensive study under the guidance of a professor who meets regularly with them to discuss their reports and findings.
A course of study so pursued.
A scheduled meeting of such a group.
A meeting for an exchange of ideas; a conference.</font>

The dictionary definition *kind* of fits, in that it is a meeting or conference where people will study the current situation and exchange ideas. However, "seminar" to me means discussion in a kind of "colle***" or "chatty" way. If you were going to change that, I think it should be more forceful, more "Irish Internet user pushing for fair treatment". With that in mind, I don't think "summit" is very appropriate either. I can't think of an alternative at this time though, I'm just thinking out loud. I still think "net imperative" is very clever though, and sums the situation up admirably.

adam

dahamsta

Forgot that gey wasn't allowed. That should have read collegey.

And yes, Minesajackdaniels, you should stop now.

adam

LegacyUser

ok well seminar and summit or out,
what about forum, we are holding this think to discuss whats going on,

LegacyUser

i actually thing the words

Open forum on eIreland: The Net Imperative
hosted by Ireland Offline (but thats in smaller writing)

I like it because it like saying were upen to the public, come on in and have a say

The Sweeper

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dahamsta:
And yes, Minesajackdaniels, you should stop now.

adam</font>

Right, just for that...

The getcherskatesongovernment Irish Internet Seminar

The surfing seminar

The SPROG Seminar (Society for the Protection of the Rights of Online Gamers...)

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It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

Shiminay

(haven't seen this board in a few days)

May name suggestion:
An Island Connected
- making the Internet availabe and affordable
A seminar hosted by Ireland Off Line

eIreland: The Net Imperative
is really good though...

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All the best!
Dav
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So Bob Hoskins was about to roll a spliff when in walks Dana with her 3 foot Bong
[honey i] violated [the kids]
When the Beefy King arrives, I shall be paying homage with Puunack The Receiver in a haze of green curry.

dahamsta

I'd go for:

eIreland: The Net Imperative
An open forum on $something $something hosted by Ireland Offline

$something $something should of course be "Affordable Internet Access" or summat like that.

adam

dahamsta

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kharn:
An Island Connected</font>

Well, it's not really connected, is it? Isn't that the point?

Forgot to mention in my last post by the way - I like "forum". More than "seminar" or "summit" anyway. Although I have to concede one thing for "summit" - decisions get made at summits.

adam

LegacyUser

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dahamsta:
I'd go for:

eIreland: The Net Imperative
An open forum on $something $something hosted by Ireland Offline

$something $something should of course be "Affordable Internet Access" or summat like that.

adam</font>

my no just call it

eIreland: The Net Imperative
An open forum on Affordable and available Internet Access hosted by Ireland Offline

got a nice ring to it

The Sweeper

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dahamsta:
Although I have to concede one thing for "summit" - decisions get made at summits.

adam</font>

Tell that to the Genoans...

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It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

LegacyUser

Hows about

connect ireland

wire ireland

irish compu-global hyper-mega-net

LegacyUser

Hows about

connect ireland

wire ireland

irish compu-global hyper-mega-net

Bard

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:


not for everybody, as it makes us sound like were being real,

compaign for affordable and available internet


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What????!!!!

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:

i agree, theres 2 votes do we have a third

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Martin already said we're not taking votes - we're just looking for suggestions.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:

ok well seminar and summit or out

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No, 'seminar' and 'summit' are not out, and it's not up to you to say that they are 'out'!

Gladiator, you don't have to reply to everything you know, - and when you do reply, you could try to a> make sense (please!), and b> sound a bit less like you are 'running the show', - as that's how you come across (at least to me) at times.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rickoshea:

eIreland: The Net Imperative

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Sorry, but I don't think this would make sense to a lot of people.

I'd suggest we go for something simpler....

"Getting Ireland online... FASTER!"
- an open public seminar hosted by IrelandOffline

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Bard

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Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.

Bard

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Matfinn:
Hows about

connect ireland

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copyright... and the fact that it's the name of an ISP ... www.connect.ie

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Bard

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Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.

dahamsta

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Gladiator, you don't have to reply to everything you know, - and when you do reply, you could try to a> make sense (please!), and b> sound a bit less like you are 'running the show', - as that's how you come across (at least to me) at times.</font>

I'm afraid I have to ditto that. It can be very wearing.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"Getting Ireland online... FASTER!"</font>

And I'm afraid I have to disagree with that, because... well, it's tacky and simple-minded (no offense Bard, just my opinion).

But I suppose considering the fact that a huge number of people watch such tacky and simple-minded tat as Big Brother and Survivor...

In the words of Denis Leary: "Have we turned into gerbils ladies and gentlemen?"

adam