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Sky Digital Encryption Cracking?

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  • #32
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Okay maybe i'm way off cos this happened ages ago.

    But do ya remeber this American guy made a snazzy little device that decrpted all their channels and pay per views. He sold it for $20 or something. HE was taken to court by the tv companies but they lost as the judge ruled that they didn't have the right to copyright the air (ie the radiowaves etc).

    But times have changed and alll the encrybtion techonolgy has too no doubt and there is no way that ANYYYYYYYYONE could ever crack it, or could they? hmmmmmmmm


  • #33
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gideon2000:
    Okay maybe i'm way off cos this happened ages ago.

    But do ya remeber this American guy made a snazzy little device that decrpted all their channels and pay per views. He sold it for $20 or something. HE was taken to court by the tv companies but they lost as the judge ruled that they didn't have the right to copyright the air (ie the radiowaves etc).
    </font>

    The case was News Datacom/Sky Vs David Lyons. Sky was trying to get an interlocutary injunction banning Lyons from selling smartcards capable of decoding Sky's channels. He was English and the case was heard in the Dublin High Court. Lyons did not actually manufacture the cards nor did he develop the cards. NDC/Sky lost because they could not prove that the code in the pirate cards was a copy of their code and also because they refused to disclose their code to prove that it was an infringing copy. It was a pretty fundamental legal argument. (I was actually there. smile.gif )

    The legislation has changed drastically since then.

    Regards...jmcc


  • #34
    Blade
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Hi John, nice to see you about again!

    Yah OnDigital is using SECA alright and SKY/NDS aren't very happy about their channels being viewed freely on the OnDigital system in the UK so their on the war path again. It's quite possible that we'll see NDS cracking down on Irish pirates (directly or indirectly) of the resellers weaker systems over here such as NTL etc. Though surprisingly all they've done up to now is kept an eye on them. I'd imagine after their last few f*ck ups over here that it'll be an indirect approach by putting pressure on NTL etc. to start raiding people over here.

    SECA itself isn't a bad system, it's the cr@p smart cards these companies are using thats allowing everyone to wip keys out of them so easily thats the problem. I'm sure they'll learn soon enough!

    BTW did you see they released a file to load Irdeto ,Seca and Viaccess all into an Irdeto CAM? The Irdeto is the one with the most memory, 512k AFAIK. We're going to see some pretty cool stuff on the line of CAM's in the future. Also NDS signed a deal to supply Irdeto their smart cards for their network security and payment systems. Wonder how long it will be before NDS convince everyone to use their cards smile.gif


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