Underage Drinking

col_nicholson

I was just thinking if you are in a pub with some of your friends and everyone is under 18 but 1 person is not drinking and the gaurds come will you get your name taken.

Sorry if its a stupid qusetion but i just dont know

Cheryo

imp

I very much doubt it. You haven't broken any laws or anything, unless you bought the drink for them.

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col_nicholson

ok thanks

Turner

1. The gards never come into pubs
2. The gards couldnt give a f3ck about underage drinkers
3. Its up to the publican, he gets in trouble if you are underage drinking in his bar.
4. If all your friends are drinking in a bar you should be too.

seamus

There may be some law which means minors cannot be in a pub, but I'm not entirely sure.

Most pubs have 'children not allowed in this pub after XX:XX', but I'm not sure if there's a law, or if 'children' relates to all minors.

lordsippa

Depends on the cop.

col_nicholson

My mate was caught in a pub and it was charged 1000. but a juvenille liason officer was sent to his house, and we dont want that to happen

richindub2

just go into the toilets and pretend to be getting sick in one of the cubicles if they come into the place and youre really worried :P

Funky

depends on the guard i'd say ,but most would take your name too i'd say

lordsippa

Way I see it is that any guard who comes into a pub to find underage drinkers is gonna be a right prick anyway so you're fecked should it happen. Or that's my thoughts at least.

Mewzel

police in my experience are generally ass holes, so yes, they probably would take your name too.

leeroybrown

If they catch you drinking underage in a pub it really isn't much of a problem for you, but for the publican it will probably mean a trip to court, a fine and possibly an endorsement on his license (Too many endorsements and the publicans license is gone).

There is the additional problem of a Garda/Liason Officer coming out to your house. A friend of mine was picked up in a sqad car by a local garda after he "Had seen him" outside a local pub with a pint. He was basically told to tell the Judge that he was in the pub" as "thing would be easier on him". (Guard in question was an awful príck tho ... still is)

Oeneus

It's street drinking which the pigs tend to look out for the most. Since June I've had my name and address taken 5 times for underaged street drinking. I really can't afford to be caught again so I started going into pubs instead.

Riamfada

I turned out okay

Sangre

I would say its rare for gaurds to go into a pub looking for underage drinkers, they'd much rather them in there then outside in fields.

Take Wesley for example, I dont think you'd find anyone over 16 there and there is a garda station 30 feet away.

If he does want you're name blame it on society also I think anyone over 16 can go into a pub, not sure though

MDR

funny how every Garda is a prick
until your mugged/raped/attacked etc ... and then they are your bestest friend.

OT I know, but it was bugging me.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

aye, I've never liked that attitude either

you are doing something illegal, so it's hardly fair to criticise them for wanting to catch you

one possible solution is *not* to underage drink..

memphis

The Cops are just doing there job, its just plan unfortunate if ya get caught underage drinking!!! Usually more unfortunate on the actually publican who can have his/her license taken from him/her.

As for my opinion on underage drinkers, everyone does it. I did it myself. once ya look somewhat around 18 the publican will generally serve ya. I was drinking in a pub since I was 15/16, and it wasn't until I turned 18 that I was asked for ID, funny really, but true.

Cops, generally have better things to be doing than catching underages drinkers, so generally don't go into a pub looking to catch people. Its more often than none that people drinking on the streets or in a field, etc are caught. As far as I know, nobody (regardless of age) is allowed, by law, to drink on the streets.

On another level, count yourself lucky that ya ain't in the US, where ya have to be over 21 (in most states) to drink, and they are quite strict about it. Or worst still try live in Saudi where there isn't even a pub in sight (drinking is against the Muslim religion).

leeroybrown

funny how every Garda is a prick

I know quite a few guards who are very nice people and make a genuine effort to do a good job.

The guy I mentioned in the above anecdote is genuinely a lazy self centred príck. (I wouldn't even count on him being respected by colleagues)

Oeneus

Originally posted by Mordeth

one possible solution is *not* to underage drink..

Huh! Easy for you to say!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i didn't drink till I was 18 :P

Dont be at yourself

Originally posted by MDR
funny how every Garda is a prick
until your mugged/raped/attacked etc ... and then they are your bestest friend.

OT I know, but it was bugging me.

Not quite. Myself and my girlfriend were attacked by a group of 8 scumbags armed with bottles just before Christmas. My girlfriend had bruised and dislocated ribs after the assault, and I had a sprained wrist and concussion. It was all caught on security camera and there was witnesses to the whole event - one of who knew the names of some of the attackers. What did those wonderful protectors of justice that we call the gardaí do?

Sweet fuck all.

Sangre

Sorry to hear about that,
A similiar incident happened to me.
It was JC results night and me and my friends were acosted my some ruffians.

Well actually one guy came up and asked me for a quid then hit, since it was JC results night and in Stillorgan a lot of ppl joined in.

In the brawl the gaurds managed to pick me and 2 of my friends out of the crowd and slam us against the garda van the threw us in, funny beacuse they had been watching it all happen and knew we didnt do anything. Well needless to say the place was surrounded by gardas in one minute, with cars driving after knackers running well. They gave us a lift home and about a week later one of the gaurds did a follow up on me, he told what happened to the underages he caught. But the most admirable thing was that if i ever felt unsafe outside I should always go up to a gaurd and just ask them to walk with you to wherever, or even to watch the other guys.

BTW i still have the scar under my eye from the ring, 3 years ago nearly

monument

> 1. The gards never come into pubs

Yes they do, but usually only if they are told that a large number of under age people are in the pub

> 2. The gards couldnt give a f3ck about underage drinkers

If they do or don’t, going in to a pub will make it look as if they do

> 3. Its up to the publican, he gets in trouble if you are underage drinking in his bar.

Yes the publican will (should) get in trouble but so will the underage person (sometimes)

> 4. If all your friends are drinking in a bar you should be too.

I won’t even comment on that

MDR

What did those wonderful protectors of justice that we call the gardaí do?

Sweet **** all.

Oh I see the Garda deliberately ignored you ?

If the garda did absolutely nothing as you say, why didn't you go see a soliciter, perhaps take a civil case. Did you follow up the case at the Garda station, did you complain when you felt your case was being dealt with proparily. Was someone arrested, was it the justice system that you down, afterall the Garda aren't responsible for bad judgements in court.

I find it very difficult to believe the Garda ignored a reported assault. I suspect there is prolly alot more going on here than you are letting us know.

If not, fair enough ... but to be honest I have never come across an incident were they Garda 'have just no cared about an attack', I have seen them ignore other stuff ... but not when people are injured.

Big Chief

Originally posted by Mordeth
i didn't drink till I was 18 :P

you must sleep well at night :rolleyes:


anyway, i dont know about here in dublin, but growing up in glasgow you never got police coming into pubs unless there was a fight or something happening/happened inside. Atleast not that i ever seen.

Was mostly underage drinking outside they caught people, people hanging around tunnels/back of schools and so forth

I started drinking in pubs when i was 17 due to having a fake NUS card , got caught outside a couple of times when drunk when i was 15/16, nothing really ever happened, mostly just a slap on the wrist kind of thing. Not unless you were disorderly anyway, in that case you would just be thrown in the cells for the night (this never happened to me), although i was never the slowest out of all me friends so i tended not to get caught when the police did show up from around a corner

in the whole time ive stayed in dublin and all the pubs ive drank in ive never seen a gardai come in once though

Moonbeam

It is legal for a person over 16 to be in a pub once they do not consume alcohol

Kell

Originally posted by MDR
Oh I see the Garda deliberately ignored you ?

Not quite as nasty as anyone elses previously reported assualt cases but heres one for your theory of Gardai care when someone gets injured. A couple of years ago a car tried to reverse over me while I was getting onto my bike. I promptly gave him the finger and cycled away. Car driver catches up with me, jumps out of the van and smacks me in the eye.

Anways, I cycled UP Harcourt street i.e. in the wrong direction as it's the quickest way to get to Harcourt Street Station. I approached the cop outside and asked where I should go to make a complaint to be told "You do realise you cycled the wrong way up a one way street".
Me: "Thats because it's the quickest way to get here and I have just been assaulted. Where do I go to make a complaint?"

What ensued was ten minutes cop telling me that I had broken the law (my eye swelling rapidly) until I told him to shut the f*ck up and tell me where I should go to complain. Gardai concern? My arse.

leeroybrown

i didn't drink till I was 18 :P

And look how you turned out

1. The gards never come into pubs

Only if they feel a reason to. Past hassle from pubs makes them targets.

bozzie

if you didnt buy the drinks ur grand

the law was changed last year and now its perfectly leagal for sprogs to be in pubs as late as they like providing they aren't drinking

Carbiens

Originally posted by Moonbeam
It is legal for a person over 16 to be in a pub once they do not consume alcohol

bullsh1t,
having grown up in a pub and after working in six more besides, i can tell you quite confidently that it is totally illigal for a minor (under the age of 18) to be on the premesis. the only time they are allowed in is if they are accompanied by an adult ie: a person over the age of 18.

didnt you ever see the legal notices that all vitners members are obliged to display inside their doors? its very clearly stated.