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Audioslave?

  • 07-01-2003 12:12pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭


    I heard their first song off the album (Cochise) and thought it was pretty good (even if they did sound a lot like Rage Against The Machine, but what can you expect, I suppose?)

    So was wondering if anyone had bought the album or knows if the rest of the songs are any good?

    Cheers :)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭s8n


    I bought it and being a huge RATM and soundgarden fan was very excited, but tbh it's a bit of a letdown. Don't get me wrong it's well above average but the songs get a bit samey after a while and when tom morello is in full flight you long for the anger and passion of zack de la rocha backing him up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Okie


    Originally posted by s8n
    when tom morello is in full flight you long for the anger and passion of zack de la rocha backing him up

    Yeah, I wondered if he would be badly missed, but I thought that Chris Cornell was a fairly decent replacement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    i think people are expecting so much of the album, what with rage and soundgarden being so good in their own rights, its gonna be a letdown for a lot of people. i tried not to have my hopes too high for the album, and i quite like it. the songs are a bit samey, not quite soundgarden, not quite rage, and tho i kinda miss zach's voice, i prefer chris' lyrics. i'll prolly get murdered for saying this, but i didn't like the constant barrage of political stuff. i dig their ideals and dedication behind it and all, but i just didn't want to hear about it in every single song. not alot of the tom's weird guitar sounds either, but i felt they were a little over done at times so i dont mind so much....





    please dont kill me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    I agree, cochise is a great single but the rest of the album is really 'samey'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 Kylereese


    eh hello people!! i listened to 30 seconds of it in music city and took it home....i was blown away its bloody excellent music taking it back to the way things used to be....its neither rage or soundgarden so don't compare its more like a metal led zep but with loads more i mean there is a song on it called "shadows of the sun" and its bloody amazing listen to morello's solo ....its brillo....i suggest you listen to it properly b4 judging......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭Don1


    I bought it without hearing any of it! It only cost me a fiver though (thank jebus for gift vouchers!) so it wasn't that big a risk. I think it's class. Every time I hear I compare it to RATM but force myself to stop because it aint them. Sure all but one of them are there but RATM was really a politcal statement on Zach's behalf. Audioslave are totally different (hence the name change). They are a rock band with monster riffs and singing in place of rap. The similarities are there solely due to Morello's unique and totally amazing stlye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭nesthead


    i was real excited about the album when it came out, and i was kinda of forcing myself to really like it because of who it was, but now i just think its a big pile of bolox. there only two or three good songs, cochise, show me how to live and set it off.

    how could you say that cornells lyrics are better than zachs? cornells lyrics are sound realy cheezy and kinda cliched* (i think, im not that good at the old english, that is the right word?)
    at least zachs lyrics were about something too.

    tom morellos stuff isnt nearly what he is capable of, he isnt "scratchin the pickups with his arse" as much as he used to.
    (think that phrase is pornapsters, correct me if im wrong :p )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭goo


    Only heard cochise, it's a bit bollox in itself.

    The only reason I replied was to say:

    If you felt bored by Zach's lyrics and were a little iffy about tom's solos and originality...would you not have just made the effort to listen to a different band?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 658 ✭✭✭xx


    Jesus, is it just me, or does every time chris cornell starts singing in that song Cochise, he sounds like Robert Plant from ye olde Led Zeppelin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭kingconor


    Dude, audioslave are a breath of fresh air!!!
    Modern day rock is ****e, it's too depressing and the bands are really boring!!!
    Audioslave are flamboyant and great musicians, who have all ready proven themselves in the rock world!!
    XX - I think he sounds more like Brian Johnston from ye olde AC/DC!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    Like he said, Audioslave are far better than anything else that's played on the TV/Radio at this particular moment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    Originally posted by xx
    Jesus, is it just me, or does every time chris cornell starts singing in that song Cochise, he sounds like Robert Plant from ye olde Led Zeppelin?

    is that supposed to be a bad thing?

    on listening to the album properly a couple of times, im gonna backtrack on my statement about chris' lyrics, they aren't quite up to scratch on some of the songs. i was more referring to prefering him from his soundgarden days. i hated his solo stuff so when i first heard the album i thought 'yay chris is back on form' not so apparently, altho i still like the album.

    and goo i wasn't bored by anything RATM did, i really like them actually, am i not allowed to criticise a little and still like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 b0bmast3r


    Rage against the garden are a great band cochies, i am the highway, great great tracks from a great album, havent got a much radioplay as they should have but they've still done alrite from it. Im looking forward to the future if there is one...hopefully chris cornell will get closer to the rest of the band though, cause from what ive heard things where less than peachy some time back between these guys, lets just hope they can keep it together and give us some more excellent albums.


    Im a hermit living in a hole.
    b0b


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Darkillion


    audioslave are a damn sweet band!

    cornell is one of the best singers around

    all the songs sound different and excellant!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    nice one jesternuts!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭the snitch


    i bought it played it once at ripped it off after a few songs cringing with embarrassment for all concerned. then i walked into sound cellar over christmas and they were listening to it. it sounded fantastic after hearing the cheeky song and what have you in other record shops all day.
    but it's a pity the heroin didn't just bleach cornells works, he seems to have dipped his head and throat in it too. the vocals aren't any where near as good as they used to be. it's gone all treble and warbley. and what's with the snake hipped low slung khaks and titty top he's been sporting? mophead


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Darkillion


    actually, you tool, he damaged his voice in the mid 90's on tour with soundgarden so obviously his voice wont be the smae


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭superconor


    actually, you tool,

    lol, great comeback...

    personally i have only heard cochise but i think its great, love the funky riff after the building intro!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ManWithThePlan


    I only listened to Cochise. I think the main riff is poor and Chris Cornell sounded way better with Soundgarden's type of music.

    I was never a big rage fan anyway.. Tom Morello's style doesn't appeal to me at all.

    Why oh why did soundgarden have to split :confused::(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭ykt0di9url7bc3


    loved the Album,

    loved the video for Cochise,

    great stuff imho....

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by jesternuts
    leave audioslave alone, they are what they are so stop comparing and moaning. You are nothing so shut the fcuk up and have a bit respect.
    Originally posted by jesternuts
    The Beatles is the ****test band ever. English ****.Nirvana are **** and Kurt Cobain was a pussy. Ohh I want to die, I'm so sad. ****ing idiot


    A shining example of respect there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    You know, I cant see Audioslave as anything other than the next fad of the moment in rock. And my theory of this was confirmed when I saw the album in the second hand shop today. I mean, beforehand it was Queens Of The Stone Age, and before that The Hives.

    All these bands come along, and are proclaimed as 'The Saviours Of Rock' and in the end, it's never more than the alternative top of the pops style mongering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Ah now, Audioslave are hardly The Hives, or Queens of the stone age. They're just a great Rock n Roll band. I wouldn't call them a fad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭kingconor


    Audioslave, a fad???
    Now, Slipknot, there's a fad!! I hate slipknot and all these 10 year old, rock wannabe types, that you find skateboarding in supermarket car parks, wearing slipknot hoodies and Wu tang, feckin' wu tang jeans!!! The Wu tang clan are not a rock group by any stretch of the imagination, so why do theses so called rockers wear the clothes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Oeneus


    Originally posted by kingconor
    Audioslave, a fad???
    Now, Slipknot, there's a fad!! I hate slipknot and all these 10 year old, rock wannabe types, that you find skateboarding in supermarket car parks, wearing slipknot hoodies and Wu tang, feckin' wu tang jeans!!! The Wu tang clan are not a rock group by any stretch of the imagination, so why do theses so called rockers wear the clothes?

    Oh God here we go again!:rolleyes: Could we like have the word "Slipknot" added to the swear filter?

    I'm starting to hate hearing people going on about how shit Slipknot are nearly as much as I hate Slipknot! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ManWithThePlan


    Originally posted by jesternuts
    Rage against the machine was easily the greatest band that ever existed.

    Don't be silly. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Jesus!
    I'm going to start listening to Slipknot just to piss all you ****ers off.
    I can sooo relate.
    He soooo feels my pain.
    :rolleyes:

    Now shup about slipknot, and stay on topic, ok?
    Originally posted by Giblet
    Ah now, Audioslave are hardly The Hives, or Queens of the stone age. They're just a great Rock n Roll band. I wouldn't call them a fad.

    No, they're definetly NOT 'just' a great Rock n Roll band.
    They're pretty much a Supergroup riding of the fame of their members.
    I've seen it plenty of times before, and it's always the same.
    Just listen to Six Feet Under *Shudder*..

    They can't be anything BUT a fad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Tut tut tut. If they make great rock and roll music, they're a great rock and roll band :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭nesthead


    if anyone wants to buy the album im sellin for 15 yoyos, so ****...........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭ThenComesDudley


    i believe the topic was do you think the albums anygood or not?
    so myself i didnt like it to me it sounded like ratm with a new singer alot of the guitar riff were simular soundin to older ratm stuff.
    Now as For FADs well... callin new bands that everyone suddenly likes a fad? well doesnt that just go for everynew band that you hear and like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    We'll wait a month or two, and see what happens, Dudley. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Darkillion


    no way are they a fad, they are a good band


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    So, what you're telling me is that they have to be crap to be a fad? I'm sure every girl out there who was into Take That would have told you that they were 'A Good Band' back then... Suppose they weren't a fad either then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Darkillion


    now correct if im wrong since my knowledge of pop isnt that good but werent Take That big for like at least 5 years?

    a fad is something people like for like a month or so but in a year no one remembers. since take that were about for about 5 years and even rock fans remember them than they must not be a fad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Okie


    Cheeky Girls = Fad
    Take That = Popular
    Audioslave = Soon to be legendary ;) (Tongue ---> Cheek)
    Led Zeppelin = Already there!

    Fair enough this isn't really about who had the longest and most popular music career but it will be interesting to see how popular Audioslave will be in 6 months time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Darkillion


    a band can be popular but not talked about though. when they make their next album everyone wil be talking about them again, or when they next release a single


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Well, as far as I remember, from a little-sister... Take that weren't around for 5 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Darkillion


    well it was tow anyway. didnt they have 2 or 3 xmas number 1's sure?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Well, either way, it's a moot point arguing over it.

    I guess we'll just wait and see what happens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭Sterile Fish


    i am fan of both bands, like them loads, was expecting great things, didnt get it, they are still good tho, on the audio slave!! morello rocks!! \,,/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭ThenComesDudley


    well spice girls were considered by alot as a fad, but they lasted over five years and had that awful girl power thing behind them.And we are still hearing about them and they "solo" attempts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Dredz


    I'm a huge RATM fan, not such a big Soundgarden fan, but I still like them. Anyway, got this album, It's good, but listening straight through it the tracks tend to blend together a bit :P

    Best song, IMHO : Show Me How To Live


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭adnans


    Originally posted by Seraphina
    i'll prolly get murdered for saying this, but i didn't like the constant barrage of political stuff. i dig their ideals and dedication behind it and all, but i just didn't want to hear about it in every single song.
    afaik, chris cornell only joined the band depending on one condition, that the songs would be free of political content.

    political content or not, i really like this album. it *found* it's way somehow on my hard drive and didnt listen to it untill randommness of winamp showed me the light. my cousin almost immediately spotted the young cornell's voice because of its trademark sound. the rest is history :)

    adnans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 351 ✭✭Darkillion


    i agree, the whole politics thing was getting annoying


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