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Filesharing legality?

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  • 20-12-2002 3:22pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭


    Dev, maybe you can answer this one.

    Is it ok to talk about Direct Connect hubs here? Since the hubs do not hold any data on them, i would assume there is nothing illegal about them at all. I bow to your judgement tho :)

    (ps, i also think its well past the time that theres a decent irish one)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Kevok


    Quite an ambiguous topic there Dusty :p

    If you'll recall, the reason napster was such an easy target for the lawyors was that it used a centralized server to sort through the searching data.

    Programs like Kazaa act as a medium for allowing p2p filesharing. There is no elicit or illegal data held on servers owned by kazaa. They accept no responsibility for WHAT is being shared, therefore it is quite legal.

    Hell, Eircom advertise on Kazaa, before i switched to Lite i saw an ad for I-stream every few minutes.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    What are Direct Connect hubs?

    DeV.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭CivilServant


    I'm guessing it something similar to P2P. I used it once but it's not good on a sat connection so I ditched it.

    The hubs would be similar to Kazaa's servers but I'm not sure about the content of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭Kenshin


    Direct connect uses hubs that hold different groups of people... you can usually only connect to one at the time, but the people there are forced to share more files, as opposed to kazaa. So it's not as global as kazaa, but some hubs specialise on specific stuff, so it's better in some areas... I think hubs hold up to 1000 or so people (can't remember exactly)
    Maybe someone could host an unofficial boards.ie hub :)

    eMule also has something like hubs... it's great for finding some things... and it's open source.

    http://emule.sourceforge.net/ (open source version of eDonkey)
    http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/ (open source version of DC)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Celt


    I asked about talking about DC hubs on admin before, but shinji trolled it saying they were like ftp's :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Direct Connect is the best file sharing program there is, the only problem is that you need a feckass hard disk and some sort of high speed connection to test it to true potential. Although only being on a 56k hasn't stopped me from downloading something like 2 gigs of junk :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Yeah just got DC++ recently and its better for more specific/obscure stuff. But its a bitch to start off. Some hubs need at least 60gb to join and it cant be install stuff either beacuse once or twice they'll notice and kick/ban you. BTW the bots have no problem with banning you instantly :(

    I find kazaa is better beacuse I get better d/l rates beacuse you can d/l from more then one person at a time. With dc++ its only one person afaik and beacuse they have alloted slots i never d/l more then 25k/s

    As i speak (12.40 xmas day) im d/ling off kazaa at 55k/s with 27mins to go on it.

    IM so exicted i cant sleep its Xmas!!! :):D:):D


    BTW thats 12.40 am!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    I asked about boards hub before and was flamed and toasted :D

    Its a central server that someone hosts we all connect and chat and share files.

    Before anyone thinks of its niceness etc etc the files that are being shared are illegal and we are all going to hell.

    DC is really good because of the chat feature and you can set a password and only who want gets in.

    Most hubs have stupid high requirments like "100gb swedish porn"

    Boards one would benefit the 56kers are most of the DSL users would login open 3 slots and leave it on all night.
    So the 56kers are getting good speeds from local sources.

    But again its all mp3s and toher nasty bold evil things.

    www.neo-modus.com is the Direct Connect homepage.

    kdjac


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    *whispers* Dev never needs to know :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    exactly dave.

    Im trying to bully someone into setting up a permanent hub for us.

    Lets just say hes a shadow of his former self.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    Couldn't someone with a cable/dsl set-one up?
    someone who leaves their computer on all the time..


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    I wouldnt mind except for the fact my computer is 1.5 feet from my bead and sounds like a 'the who' concert
    (BTW 'The who' has the highest recorded decibel level for a concert ever, so thats loud)

    But it would be grand if someone didnt have it in their room


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    I can set one up in a matter of seconds.
    But can i post the IP here thats the question???


    kdjac


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    I wana use it to chat.. that is all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    one more mod post a yay answer and i post the ip and blame the mods :)

    if im getting banned im taking the whole damn system with me :)

    LOL

    kdjac


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    But seriously, a lot of people use direct and chat..
    Yea can have good conversations with people about music you like


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    So can an IP be posted????

    kdjac


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    Well how about we leave a name or something?
    Boards crew or something.. it relates no way to boards.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,539 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    Filesharing legality?

    The closest thing to legal precendent for Ireland is the recent Dutch verdict that said that KaZaA was perfectly legal.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    post the damn IP :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    159.134.100.169

    Will leave it up for a few days.

    Maybe Eircom will give us a static :)

    kdjac


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    Is it on dial-up or something?
    I'll be idlinh there for the few days then..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Dang. What port does this use ?

    Edit: 412 for TCP and UDP

    Thanks Google !


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Tried the IP address- got the following error:

    AdsGone Blocked HTML Ad

    -Bizzare-

    Any ideas? I'm not running a firewall (well I am, but I've turned it off.....)

    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Damn double Damn !

    The ports are blocked at work. I need my manager to sign a change management request to get em opened up. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    IM in work for the next few days so it will be unattended.

    If anyone has any bot scripts send em to kdja@modhteater.com


    The default ones are crap and need to set a limit to stop those evil searches.

    kdjac


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    I getting access denied when I try to Dload the client sware from
    NeoModus, (i tried both the XP and 2000 links).

    (See error.doc)

    Is there a mirror site where you can get this direct connection client sotware?

    X


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL




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