Filesharing legality?

Dustaz · 20-12-2002 2:22pm #1

Dev, maybe you can answer this one.

Is it ok to talk about Direct Connect hubs here? Since the hubs do not hold any data on them, i would assume there is nothing illegal about them at all. I bow to your judgement tho

(ps, i also think its well past the time that theres a decent irish one)

Kevok · 20-12-2002 3:13pm

Quite an ambiguous topic there Dusty

If you'll recall, the reason napster was such an easy target for the lawyors was that it used a centralized server to sort through the searching data.

Programs like Kazaa act as a medium for allowing p2p filesharing. There is no elicit or illegal data held on servers owned by kazaa. They accept no responsibility for WHAT is being shared, therefore it is quite legal.

Hell, Eircom advertise on Kazaa, before i switched to Lite i saw an ad for I-stream every few minutes.

DeVore · 20-12-2002 5:38pm

What are Direct Connect hubs?

DeV.

CivilServant · 20-12-2002 7:25pm

I'm guessing it something similar to P2P. I used it once but it's not good on a sat connection so I ditched it.

The hubs would be similar to Kazaa's servers but I'm not sure about the content of them.

Kenshin · 20-12-2002 7:36pm

Direct connect uses hubs that hold different groups of people... you can usually only connect to one at the time, but the people there are forced to share more files, as opposed to kazaa. So it's not as global as kazaa, but some hubs specialise on specific stuff, so it's better in some areas... I think hubs hold up to 1000 or so people (can't remember exactly)
Maybe someone could host an unofficial boards.ie hub

eMule also has something like hubs... it's great for finding some things... and it's open source.

http://emule.sourceforge.net/ (open source version of eDonkey)
http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/ (open source version of DC)

Celt · 20-12-2002 9:07pm

I asked about talking about DC hubs on admin before, but shinji trolled it saying they were like ftp's

Raskolnikov · 23-12-2002 6:51pm

Direct Connect is the best file sharing program there is, the only problem is that you need a feckass hard disk and some sort of high speed connection to test it to true potential. Although only being on a 56k hasn't stopped me from downloading something like 2 gigs of junk :cool:

Sangre · 25-12-2002 12:40am

Yeah just got DC++ recently and its better for more specific/obscure stuff. But its a bitch to start off. Some hubs need at least 60gb to join and it cant be install stuff either beacuse once or twice they'll notice and kick/ban you. BTW the bots have no problem with banning you instantly

I find kazaa is better beacuse I get better d/l rates beacuse you can d/l from more then one person at a time. With dc++ its only one person afaik and beacuse they have alloted slots i never d/l more then 25k/s

As i speak (12.40 xmas day) im d/ling off kazaa at 55k/s with 27mins to go on it.

IM so exicted i cant sleep its Xmas!!!

BTW thats 12.40 am!!

KdjaCL · 28-12-2002 12:10pm

I asked about boards hub before and was flamed and toasted

Its a central server that someone hosts we all connect and chat and share files.

Before anyone thinks of its niceness etc etc the files that are being shared are illegal and we are all going to hell.

DC is really good because of the chat feature and you can set a password and only who want gets in.

Most hubs have stupid high requirments like "100gb swedish porn"

Boards one would benefit the 56kers are most of the DSL users would login open 3 slots and leave it on all night.
So the 56kers are getting good speeds from local sources.

But again its all mp3s and toher nasty bold evil things.

www.neo-modus.com is the Direct Connect homepage.

kdjac

Raskolnikov · 28-12-2002 7:59pm

*whispers* Dev never needs to know :cool:

daveirl · 29-12-2002 3:32pm

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Dustaz · 29-12-2002 6:17pm

exactly dave.

Im trying to bully someone into setting up a permanent hub for us.

Lets just say hes a shadow of his former self.

Lenny · 29-12-2002 6:29pm

Couldn't someone with a cable/dsl set-one up?
someone who leaves their computer on all the time..

Sangre · 30-12-2002 2:56pm

I wouldnt mind except for the fact my computer is 1.5 feet from my bead and sounds like a 'the who' concert
(BTW 'The who' has the highest recorded decibel level for a concert ever, so thats loud)

But it would be grand if someone didnt have it in their room

KdjaCL · 31-12-2002 4:23pm

I can set one up in a matter of seconds.
But can i post the IP here thats the question???

kdjac

Lenny · 31-12-2002 4:37pm

I wana use it to chat.. that is all

KdjaCL · 31-12-2002 4:44pm

one more mod post a yay answer and i post the ip and blame the mods

if im getting banned im taking the whole damn system with me

LOL

kdjac

Lenny · 31-12-2002 5:00pm

But seriously, a lot of people use direct and chat..
Yea can have good conversations with people about music you like

KdjaCL · 31-12-2002 5:06pm

So can an IP be posted????

kdjac

Lenny · 31-12-2002 5:24pm

Well how about we leave a name or something?
Boards crew or something.. it relates no way to boards.ie

JTMan · 31-12-2002 6:11pm

Originally posted by Dustaz
Filesharing legality?

The closest thing to legal precendent for Ireland is the recent Dutch verdict that said that KaZaA was perfectly legal.

Dustaz · 01-01-2003 3:13am

post the damn IP

KdjaCL · 01-01-2003 10:48am

159.134.100.169

Will leave it up for a few days.

Maybe Eircom will give us a static

kdjac

Lenny · 01-01-2003 3:33pm

Is it on dial-up or something?
I'll be idlinh there for the few days then..

daveirl · 01-01-2003 3:57pm

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yellum · 02-01-2003 7:59am

Dang. What port does this use ?

Edit: 412 for TCP and UDP

Thanks Google !

The_Conductor · 02-01-2003 9:31am

Tried the IP address- got the following error:

AdsGone Blocked HTML Ad

-Bizzare-

Any ideas? I'm not running a firewall (well I am, but I've turned it off.....)

S.

yellum · 02-01-2003 9:45am

Damn double Damn !

The ports are blocked at work. I need my manager to sign a change management request to get em opened up.

KdjaCL · 02-01-2003 9:57am

IM in work for the next few days so it will be unattended.

If anyone has any bot scripts send em to kdja@modhteater.com

The default ones are crap and need to set a limit to stop those evil searches.

kdjac

Xterminator · 02-01-2003 11:24am

I getting access denied when I try to Dload the client sware from
NeoModus, (i tried both the XP and 2000 links).

(See error.doc)

Is there a mirror site where you can get this direct connection client sotware?

X

KdjaCL · 02-01-2003 11:35am

http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/

kdjac

Lenny · 02-01-2003 11:48pm

You take the server down.. ?

KdjaCL · 03-01-2003 7:06am

159.134.100.161

Back up pc was on for 29 days needed a break

kdjac

Lenny · 04-01-2003 7:59am

Still not working now.. ?

daveirl · 04-01-2003 2:46pm

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KdjaCL · 04-01-2003 3:24pm

hmm turned it on yesterday ,havent looked at PC since will cheak it later tonight.

kdjac

Raskolnikov · 04-01-2003 4:07pm

Tried to connect, no luck.

Lenny · 04-01-2003 4:22pm

How much resources does it take up t run the server kdjaC?
I have static IP on cable.. might leave it running in the backround or put it on a p166 32mb ram for perm,

KdjaCL · 04-01-2003 6:51pm

Bugger all 0.00003% cpu usage and about 80k mem usage.

The server only connects users.
Minor upload and download think it was 500k upload over 4 days.

Its getting the scripts to wokrk right that was the problem and not having a Static.

I have it running on my main PC my crappy web server is buggered.

kdjac

Lenny · 04-01-2003 7:23pm

Can't you get a free doman..?
I've seen lots of servers haveing *.no-ip.com something along those lines..
or even get TZO doman client.. so you can have a static host which points to your current IP..

KdjaCL · 04-01-2003 8:43pm

was kinda hoping someone with a webserver type spare pc box thing would take it on.

I just stuck it up to get peeps interest

Will turn it on when i get home

kdjac

daveirl · 05-01-2003 2:21am

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Sev · 06-01-2003 3:10pm

DC++ allowed?

Lenny · 06-01-2003 5:46pm

Yup, thats what I connect to it with.

Mercury_Tilt · 06-01-2003 6:21pm

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Sev · 06-01-2003 6:51pm

Is it up atm? the two IPs earlier in the thread arent working.

Lenny · 06-01-2003 6:57pm

Originally posted by Mercury_Tilt
Im considering paying Dev/cloud to have your tag line changed to "Porn Baron" or "Porn King".

If I ever get my New GFX card and PC working I will be joining this dc goodness... bar the 140 gigs of your porn.

lol, I like "Porn Baron"
rofl
Whats the story with your new pc, yer man get back to yea or what?
Tell him you want your money back and build a new one.

Yea, both IP's are down Sev..
I am thinking about setting one up meself, because I have static IP.. KdjaC's IP changes every time he redials into his ADSL

Cian · 16-01-2003 12:25pm

Originally posted by KdjaC

Maybe Eircom will give us a static

kdjac

Just to let you know; it is possible to get a static ip with eircom i-stream. I know someone who got the 512k package, and after a bit of wrangling, they agreed to assign a static ip. His basic argument was that he needed to run a mail server.

Mercury_Tilt · 18-01-2003 4:50pm

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cherrio · 29-01-2003 11:20pm

Now that I have ADSL, I want to use it! What ever happened to this server?

Are there any Irish servers? DC++ is MUCH better than Kazza.

KdjaCL · 30-01-2003 4:24pm

Due a misunderstandment with myself and Eircom they ceased my line.

hehehe

Back online now DSL is on again ,anyone take up the ball and host a DC hub whilst i was gone??

kdjac

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