Queen VS Guns N'Roses!

**/<::ë::/\/** · 30-09-2002 7:49pm #1

Queen Versus Guns N' Roses

Gun N' Roses may have preferred a heavier rock than Queen but they still had some comparable songs e.g. Queen had their Bohemian Rhapsody and Gun N' Roses had their November Rain to brilliant songs, but overall they were essentially two great rock bands, what I want to know is which one do YOU prefer!

Lemming · 30-09-2002 8:16pm

Apples & Oranges.

Queen and Gn'R were two completely different styles of rock.

Gn'R were "sex-drugs-and rock and roll, high-octane" stuff

Queen could be, I suppose, described as being "grand rock" if you will.

phreak · 30-09-2002 8:47pm

Originally posted by Lemming
Apples & Oranges.

agreed, but if i HAD to choose, i would choose Queen!

**/<::ë::/\/** · 30-09-2002 10:18pm

I knew that the difference between Queen and G n' R wud be brought up!

All i want 2 see is if people HAD 2 make a choice between the 2 bands who wud they pick!

Im just curious.....

IronMan · 01-10-2002 2:47pm

neeewbie.
Would have to be GNR, dirty sex ridden rock!!
Queen were different

Oeneus · 01-10-2002 8:08pm

How dare you make me choose between them! You have been put in a really bad position!

But I picked GN'R as they are by current most loved band ever. But back when I was a kid from the age 4 -12 I was a huge Queen fan.

But seriously, they're just uncomparable!

Dont be at yourself · 01-10-2002 8:18pm

Queen are better, and they don't have a guitarist who wears a KFC bucket on his head, which is always a bonus.

Oeneus · 01-10-2002 8:24pm

Listen, I saw the New GN'R in London in August, and I'm telling you, Buckethead was absolutely phenominal(spelling?). I haven't seen anything like him.

I promise you when the New material comes out and people see Buckethead a bit more, they will be stunned at his guitar playing. He is an amazing talent. So don't be bullsh1tting about him/her/it. I predict this guy is going to be big, even without Axl!

Dont be at yourself · 01-10-2002 8:33pm

That may be so, but the man wears a KFC bucket. On his head.

Oeneus · 01-10-2002 8:37pm

I just found this:

Buckethead is the masked, inverted KFC bucket wearing, "mutant guitar virtuoso" that stunned audiences during Primus's set at OzzFest '99, toured the world with Praxis and GN'R, and graced many a movie soundtrack/score. There has been much speculation as to the identity of Buckethead. He was raised in a chicken coop by chickens. And possibly due to the unusual circumstances surrounding his upbringing, he is a very private person. He doesn't grant many interviews, and shuns most conventional means of contact. The mask and bucket add an eerie air of mystery to his activities and serve as a harbinger for his otherworldly musical stylings and sensibilities.

Goodshape · 01-10-2002 9:07pm

Two completely different bands...

...But I chose Queen. Never really cared for GnR.

Lemming · 01-10-2002 9:30pm

Originally posted by Oeneus
I promise you when the New material comes out and people see Buckethead a bit more, they will be stunned at his guitar playing. He is an amazing talent. So don't be bullsh1tting about him/her/it. I predict this guy is going to be big, even without Axl!

GnR is not GnR without Slash. Axl & Slash WERE Guns N'Roses. You need both of them to make it live up to the name. Buckethead may be good, he may be damn good in fact .. but he's not Slash.

I don't want to sound like some "purist", but that's simply what made GnR - that love/hate relationship.

Karl Hungus · 02-10-2002 12:49am

I voted Queen.

What can I say? Great childhood memories.

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*sob*

The squirrel made off my my teddy.

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Ah, anyway. I can see this being a bit of a rivalry thread. But I'm gonna take sides and agree with Lemming. Slash & Axl *ARE* Guns N' Roses. But I was never really mad on them. My Appitite For Destruction tape is floating about somewhere in the attic, being torn open for rat bedding. Never bothered to get it on CD again.

thedrowner · 02-10-2002 2:46pm

nekked bible man-thanks, that was the funneist thing ive read all day!!!

fisifan01 · 02-10-2002 6:33pm

Voted for G`NR. Frankly i think Queen are one of the most Overrated bands of all time ,imho.

GoneShootin · 02-10-2002 6:57pm

Queen, its official

**/<::ë::/\/** · 02-10-2002 7:02pm

Why has only 19 people voted?

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Oeneus · 02-10-2002 8:04pm

Gone Shootin, would you like to know why that Google fight is inaccurate?

Because the search for "Queen" is going to bring up a lot of results that aren't related to the band "Queen". For example, Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of hearts, Queen of Spades, and of course probably the most common, Dragqueen!

Mossy Monk · 02-10-2002 9:26pm

Guns N' Roses for me. i was never really into Queen all that much but they had a few songs i liked

Dr. Loon · 03-10-2002 8:17am

Originally posted by Lemming

GnR is not GnR without Slash. Axl & Slash WERE Guns N'Roses. You need both of them to make it live up to the name. Buckethead may be good, he may be damn good in fact .. but he's not Slash.

I don't want to sound like some "purist", but that's simply what made GnR - that love/hate relationship.

I agree with this view. I think buckethead is extremely fast, but I still don't think he matches Slash in the slightest. He also takes away from the GNR image, as far as I'm concerned.... and I think Axl's voice is gone, but they were still far better than Queen.... although, yes, they are 2 completely different styles.

NeMiSiS · 03-10-2002 8:30am

http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Guns+N+roses+n%27&q2=queen+-Victoria+-I+-Elizabeth+-II+-hearts+-Spades+-Dragqueen&B1=I%27m+Feeling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21&compare=1&langue=us ... cant say im the biggest queen fan in the world ..but the two bands are like chalk and cheese... and i dont like the 'new' Guns N' Roses .

GNR is dead and buried,whats there like 2 original members left.. is dizzy playing keyboards or something ? Its more like Axl + hired guns. The new tunes dont sound like something 'Guns N' Roses' would create,it sounds very 'Axl'. As for Mr BucketHead..intresting maybe he likes the smell of fried chicken.. ! Hell if he wanted to look realy strange he could grow a big ass mop of hair along the lines of 'Cousin It' with a perm and get himself a huge mother****er of a top hat..

In summary : Silly Poll,New GnR aint as good as old GnR,Buckethead most likely smells and tastes 'Finger Licking Good !',and Slash looks like cartoon character.

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Oeneus · 03-10-2002 11:48am

This is the problem with you lot! You are all looking at it as still being GN'R and therefore still comparing them with the old guys, then thinking "Oh it's completely different therefore it's crap!"

Of course it's a completely different band! Try and not to see them as GN'R. Try and see it as Axl's solo project. And I tell you, "Axl's solo project" is one of the most amazing things I've heard in ages, primarily due to Buckethead. I predict this band are going to be fuccking huge!

Don't judge them until the new album comes out, and if you get the chance, go see them live. I saw them and it was ****ing amazing, partly because it wasn't anything like the shows back when the Illusions tour was going on. It's all completely new...and brilliant!

I was as iffy about the New GN'R as you lot are now until I saw them live! I also saw a bootleg of the Rock In Rio 2001 show that they did and that show just doesn't do the new band justice. But a year later a lot has changed!

And...http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Guns+N%27+Roses&q2=Freddie+Mercury&B1=I%27m+Feeling+Groggy%21%21+Go%21&compare=1&langue=us

Dr. Loon · 03-10-2002 12:20pm

Originally posted by Oeneus
This is the problem with you lot! You are all looking at it as still being GN'R and therefore still comparing them with the old guys, then thinking "Oh it's completely different therefore it's crap!"

Of course it's a completely different band! Try and not to see them as GN'R. Try and see it as Axl's solo project. And I tell you, "Axl's solo project" is one of the most amazing things I've heard in ages, primarily due to Buckethead. I predict this band are going to be fuccking huge!

I wouldn't see it as Guns N Roses if he'd changed the name. It's not Guns N Roses, you're right, it's Axl's solo project, so he sholdn't have kept the Guns N Roses name. That's my point.

I'm looking forward to the new album, as so far it sounds interesting. However, anything I've heard so far, including their live renditions of old Guns N Roses tunes isn't as good as the old version.

So in summary, they're not GNR, never will be, and won't live up to any of GNR's stuff, but it may well be a worthwhile solo project for Axl.

Oeneus · 03-10-2002 12:57pm

But think of it this way. If you had the rights to the name "Guns N' Roses", would you use it? I would. Think about how much more successful the promotion and album sales will be just because it has the name GN'R on it.

Plus, it's wrong to say GN'R is not GN'R without Slash etc.

Right after Traci Guns left GN'R it was no longer GN'R. That's where the whole Guns thing came from. So to be completely honest...making a fuss about the name is just totally pointless and time wasting.

Just go with the flow and quit all this Axl bashing. He's doing a good job and his new band are going to kick all the asses of all the crap band that are being played on Kerrang and so on!

Dr. Loon · 03-10-2002 1:18pm

Originally posted by Oeneus
But think of it this way. If you had the rights to the name "Guns N' Roses", would you use it? I would. Think about how much more successful the promotion and album sales will be just because it has the name GN'R on it.

Plus, it's wrong to say GN'R is not GN'R without Slash etc.

Right after Traci Guns left GN'R it was no longer GN'R. That's where the whole Guns thing came from. So to be completely honest...making a fuss about the name is just totally pointless and time wasting.

Just go with the flow and quit all this Axl bashing. He's doing a good job and his new band are going to kick all the asses of all the crap band that are being played on Kerrang and so on!

To me, and to most other fans, Guns N Roses, was the days of Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven Adler\Matt Sorum. That was the height of their fame, and their best music came from this era.

Axl's would be the main man for staying real, and if he's holding on to the name in hopes of better sales, then he's not exactly being true to his music\band. They'll never be GNR for me again, but as I said I look forward to hearing Axl's new stuff.

However, judging the performances I've heard I think his voice is gone. Maybe it's the bootlegs, maybe not, but the close of the VMA's was bad, and the bootlegs from London and Leeds sound terrible, but as I said I won't write Axl and his band off untiol I've heard the new album properly.

Oeneus · 03-10-2002 1:24pm

Originally posted by Dr. Loon
and the bootlegs from London and Leeds sound terrible...

You should of fuccking been there. You missed out! You would have been impressed. Although I personally thought Robin Finck sucked. He did some really **** guitar solos. We were all like "Fucck off and get Buckethead to do some more freaky guitar stuff! You bore me!"

Dr. Loon · 03-10-2002 1:45pm

Originally posted by Oeneus
You should of fuccking been there. You missed out! You would have been impressed. Although I personally thought Robin Finck sucked. He did some really **** guitar solos. We were all like "Fucck off and get Buckethead to do some more freaky guitar stuff! You bore me!"

Admittedly, I saw a top quality mpeg of Madagascar at Leeds and his singing, although weaker than his younger years, was top notch. I'll get the album when it's out, and I'll pass judgement then.

Doesn't look like they're gonna come to Dublin does it?

Diarmuid · 03-10-2002 4:58pm

Originally posted by Lemming
GnR is not GnR without Slash. Axl & Slash WERE Guns N'Roses. You need both of them to make it live up to the name. Buckethead may be good, he may be damn good in fact .. but he's not Slash.

must say I would argue the GnR is not GnR with Izzy,Slash and Axl. Izzy wrote the best riffs in GnR. Check out the credits on Use your illusion and their interviews. The man was a genius

Diarmuid · 03-10-2002 5:04pm

Originally posted by Dr. Loon
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However, judging the performances I've heard I think his voice is gone. Maybe it's the bootlegs, maybe not, but the close of the VMA's was bad, and the bootlegs from London and Leeds sound terrible, but as I said I won't write Axl and his band off untiol I've heard the new album properly.

Having been at the Leeds festival I thought they played quite well. All the guys were very professional and seriously good musicians (Buckedhead esp). However when it came to the newer songs I wasnt too impressed. They sounded more like November Rain type ballads than the rip-roaring Nightrainesque songs GnR were great for....

Oeneus · 03-10-2002 5:39pm

Originally posted by Dr. Loon

Doesn't look like they're gonna come to Dublin does it?

You'll never know. They did Slane 10 years ago. If they do come I can garantee they'll be late!

artvandelay · 03-10-2002 7:29pm

that was gnr not the new gnr (missing slash, matt, duff and izzy)

Oeneus · 03-10-2002 9:42pm

Yes but its still the same ****ing Tour Manager they had back then (Doug Goldstein)!

thedrowner · 04-10-2002 10:24am

queen...coz they have less songs that i skip pass on their albums then GNR, for me anyway.

Giblet · 04-10-2002 1:44pm

I do admit that some of the new GNR songs are good (Madagascar, The Blues..) but they dont have the same Rock your pants ability as songs such as Nightrain, Garden of Eden, and Bad Apples have. In this poll, I just consider the old "classic" Guns, and not the new stuff. Anyway an album hasn't been done by them yet so..... Queen aren't consistent enough in their material for me.

metalish · 12-10-2002 3:30pm

i voted for Guns'n'Roses but only for their earlier stuff with Slash

Shiminay · 14-10-2002 3:02pm

I find it insulting to Queen that you would make this poll...

I could only dream of being as good a singer as Freddy Mercury.

Comparing Slash and Brian May might have been a better poll...

OLDYELLAR · 15-10-2002 9:30am

ah definetely queen , they flippin rock big time !

Vorrtexx · 15-10-2002 9:50pm

Definitely Gn'R. Old stuff rocked and I love the new stuff (Madagascar->classic song, The Blues, Chinese Democracy etc).

As for them being Dead and buried..nah. They got the US tour this fall and persistant rumours that the Album is coming out in December (I really hope so). Don't judge the new stuff cos of the different band members. I agree with Oeneus, Buckethead is a legend on the guitar and I wish I saw them in London.
As for axl's voice being gone....I personally thought it's been better than ever...the way he hit them high notes in Madagascar on the VMA's....the VMA performance was a little dodgy though, well WTTJ anyway, pulled the 2nd song off nice and got through Paradise City ok-ish.
But I'm confident they'll be back up in the #1 slot when the album is released.

Oeneus · 15-10-2002 9:55pm

Woohoo! Some support!

I was just waiting for that to happen

Vorrtexx · 16-10-2002 6:59pm

heh, am a real big Gn'R fan myself. just waiting for that album like all the other fans

Dave05041994 · 01-07-2003 11:10am

Queen and G n R are two completely different bands. Although Queen had more comercial success G n R are just as good.

Everybody are now saying how good a guitarist Buckethead is but people are forgetting Robert Finck, the Nine Inch Nails guitarist. Technically he is just as good as Buckethead and even slash.

The big test will come when G n R release there new album. We will then see if Buckethead and Robert Finck can live upto Slash's creativity.

Oh yeah, i choose GnR for the vote but i have been listening to Queen since i was dead and just like Nirvana, the only flaw they have is that the lead singer, Freddy Mercury is dead.

:cool:

nosmo · 01-07-2003 11:25am

Welcome to boards.ie

AngelofFire · 01-07-2003 9:11pm

I voted for Guns and roses. Queen are notoriously overrated and overcredited no they r not a bad rock outfit but i jus cant see whats so special about them.

**/<::ë::/\/** · 01-07-2003 9:17pm

i jus cant see whats so special about them.

They wrote some of the most widely known music ever.

Leave this thread alone!!! I only started this thread months ago to settle an argument with a friend!Big mistake!

"Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level then beat you with experience". Or sumtin like that!

Oeneus · 01-07-2003 9:53pm

Dude, Robin Finck sucks big time. Trust me, I would know. I saw the new GnR live, and Finck really did suck.
He did this little guitar solo before Paradise City and everyone just shouted and ranted at the guy. He was so crap.

oq4v3ht0u76kf2 · 01-07-2003 9:54pm

Queen. Why? Bicycle Race.

curadh · 02-07-2003 1:34am

ahh... G n ****in r. The greatest band of all time. Their 5 years of mega superstardom and pure **** off stageshows and lifestyles kicks the **** out of other bands like aerosmiths 30 years of being almost. No kid today understands the juggernaut monster that Gnr were. and to be honest that pisses me off. The way they dismiss axl as a balding old fat wannabe. Little do they know...eminem haha, can't wait to see what he looks like in 10 or 20 years. I suppose such is the heartache of getting old though and i was a kid too once and thought led zeppelin were old timers with nothing to listen to but maybe stairway.
There are so many topics of argument with gnr and this is my opinion, and how I look at the situation.

The only Guns N Roses that ever existed was the appetite for destruction lineup. That is the band that got together and wrote every one of the good songs on the illusions(+obviously lies+appetite). I'm not a big fan of dizzy matt or gilby, matt being the pick of these as a musician, and I dont consider the new band 2000 on that axl has put together GnR. I do understand where axl is coming from, and alot of time has passed with a lot of different ****ed up situations and court cases and lost friendships etc. Its very easy to look at the facts and rush to harsh judgements but alot happens in 10 years. This album Chinese Democracy will be an album axl puts out as his solo project - I think everybody knows that - except the real axl arse lickers who would literally lick his bumhole, even though he will be using the legendary name( probably to sell more records, record company wont back anything else, and to be honest I think he still feels like it is his band that he started and he deserves to call it that. We all remember it as slash etc. but don't forget axl has seen alot of people come and go from the band. Technically buckethead etc have now been in the band longer than say Steven Adler!). I think he will tour the album, and that could be the last. You know there was a rumour floating around (taken with a pinch of salt) that axl has a 3 CD album coming out with all sorts of music on it, from a lot of different people, including former band members. I think this would be truly amazing and would almost unite all camps again to create a uniquely friendly atmosphere which previously would be unheard of in gnr. Only in a perfect world though - in reality the problems that would pose would be probably impossible (financially, legally, etc.). If anyone could make it happen though...

Dr. Loon · 02-07-2003 11:05am

Just on a side note here... y'all know that slash, duff and matt sorum have teamed up with Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots in a new band called Velvet revolver!? Looks and sounds interesting...

Velvet Revolver

Oeneus · 02-07-2003 11:31am

Yeah. I downloaded Velvet Revolver's "Set Me Free" last week, aswell as a short clip of a Pink Floyd cover they did (Money). It's pretty cool stuff. Much. MUCH better than GnR's new material.

Dr. Loon · 02-07-2003 11:53am

Originally posted by Oeneus
Much. MUCH better than GnR's new material.

I agree. Very much so. I Look forward to seeing more.

curadh · 02-07-2003 2:06pm

I don't agree lads. I really like set me free, and I think it is equal to anything axl has (put out) performed. Madagascar and the blues are november rain style songs, and i really like them in a different way to set me free. That Money clip I wouldn't be into.
It's amazing how much pressure is on axl to come out with instant success with this. I hope that doesn't stop him from ever releasing it.

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