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simple yes or no poll on smoking ganja

  • 27-08-2002 7:56pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭


    do you or don't you, just trying to get a fair idea

    do you smoke ganja? 82 votes

    i do
    0% 0 votes
    i don't
    100% 82 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    I don't, drink has always been enough for me.

    Having said that I was tempted to just try it in first year but I decided I didn’t want to in the end. After thinking about it I didn’t see the point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    I used to not be for it and never touched it, but people change and so have I. Now I'll smoke it if its around and would not stop at that. Would try anything bar acid or lsd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭logic1


    Originally posted by yellum
    I used to not be for it and never touched it, but people change and so have I. Now I'll smoke it if its around and would not stop at that. Would try anything bar acid or lsd.

    Acid is LSD, why wouldn't you try it?

    .logic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    I do but I don't get the hoopla surrounding it. It's nice. Pints in a pub is better. It can be an interesting addition sometimes. And yes I have had some totally killer weed, em, dude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Kalina


    I don't, don't see the attraction really!


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Not anymore. Prefer booze.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Caesar_Bojangle


    legalise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Never have, never will, drink is enough for me.



    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    I tried it once, didn't like it. So, no I don't. I probably didn't take it properly anyway since I don't even smoke cigarettes :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    dont see what all the fuss is about myself,
    i used to smoke it all the time but i just cant be bothered anymore.
    my bro canes a serious ammount of it, and rarely gets his sh|t together. i just end up feeling drowsy and ill if i have anything more than a couple of tokes.
    i guess i missed out on the smoking genes or something
    i'm much more of an alcohol orientated man:D
    dont see what the big deal is with getting it legalised, it's totally harmless
    Now I'll smoke it if its around and would not stop at that. Would try anything bar acid or lsd.
    so you have no problem with smoking crack & jacking up:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    did before,
    dont right now,
    cant say I wont again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Actually, I did once, I had a bucket, held it in my lungs for around 90 Seconds. Didnt notice any great "feeling"..... I prefere to get active alá drink and not all mellowed.



    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    used to smoke a lot
    dont anymore

    im pro legalisation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭El Marco


    Alot of my friends smoke it, but I don't see the point in it as I've never got the "feeling" that my friends claim to get all the time. I don't see the point in hash as drink does more and actually makes you feel differant rather than drowsy. Anyway, a majority of the people I know who smoke it alot just seem to turn into slow witted morons :(

    I pro choice on legalization but I'd hate see everyone turn into towel heads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭l3rian


    i dont anymore, which do you think will come quicker, legalisation of hash, or cheap broadband?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    I never bought the stuff. I first tried it a couple of years ago. Since then I've tried it here and there, only a couple of times. If you asked me did I smoke it, I would say NO. Not that I'm against it, or anything, it someone wants to do it, let them off, a person can decide for themselves. But in recent times, and at a time that I should have been focusing on my degree exams in college, I did a major dose of the stuff, along with some enhansing stuff to raise the buzz. The evening was orgainsied my someone else, but I take full responsibility for participating, but I really didn't know what I was getting myself in to.

    Between me and 3 others we had a 1/4. Which (for the mathematically elite) is an 1/8 each. We put in in a drink with this aditive, that apparently hightened the effect (and it do, OMFG it DID). This was the part that I was oblivious to before I did it.

    Anyway 1.5 hours after I had it, I was having these amasing ideas, that I started to write down. To this day I remember the things I was thinking, and TBH they were really kewl, and really deep. You may laugh, but I swear they even made sense, when I snapped out of it. But there lied the problem. The problem was that I didn't snap out of it for almost 48 hours. 24 hours after I first had it I returned home, to a housewarming in my own family's house. Only 2 members of my family noticed that there was something wrong with me, but have never said anything ot my mother (thank god, she would worry). What was wrong with me is that I didn't have physical control. Even thought my thoughts were very deep, and probably too deep. I was bouncing off walls, yet I was solving mathematical problems that would probably have us all living on Mars by now.

    So right now I've have voted that I don't smoke ganja (or whatever you like to call it). I don't hold anything against anybody that does, but for that split second (or 48 hours) where I lost control, I didn't like it, and I remember asking a friend of mine is there a place I can go, that I can regain control or get away from the place my mind is at. That scares the **** out of me, and for that reason I don't care to do it again.

    Call me what you like. But I have had people that have done it for years, tell me the coctail that I did that night, was complete madness, and it was complete luck that I managed to travel 50 miles back to my home city in one piece under the influence of what I had taken.

    The moral of my story: If you haven't: Don't. If you have: Don't go any further. It's not worth it.

    Take care ;)

    ;-phobos-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Wook


    Phobos

    thats why they call it mind-altering drugs ? :D
    on a serious note, you are absolutly right , some peoples lives are changed after a dose of the good old acid or weed.
    You see things in a different perspective, some people become very good at math, arts, or philosophy and so on.
    I betcha that some of the best art work around these days and trough history are made under influence..of narcotics.
    from experience i would say that drugs is a control game , you decide how far into your trip you want to go and when to stop and resurface reality. Some people are too clinged to the daily life and what they are use to see and feel, some people can go beyond that and explore that what they are looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    Originally posted by phobos


    Between me and 3 others we had a 1/4. Which (for the mathematically elite) is an 1/8 each. We put in in a drink with this aditive, that apparently hightened the effect (and it do, OMFG it DID). This was the part that I was oblivious to before I did it.

    ;-phobos-)

    What exactly was this "additive"? I'm assuming you took hash tea? Your buzz sounds like it anyway...

    Lump, sounds like you did a bucket bomb, and it sounds like you did it wrong, as you should have been whacked. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭Hobnail Monkey


    Used to smoke it occassionally (I voted I do) but not really interested in it any more. I'm not into pills or chemicals either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Done it before, but tbh never found it that amazing. Just made me sleepy. :P

    I'll take a toke if/when it's offered, but thats it - wouldn't go outta my way to get it, or buy it etc. If I don't do it again, fair enuff


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    Smoke it socially every now and then - it's a very good social drug, as long as it's treated with a similar respect as you should be giving alcohol. Someone lightly toasted is fun and verbose, someone off their face is no fun and passing out.

    Also used to smoke it to help me sleep when I was working in London and effectively doing 14-16 hour working days including commute - great way to wind down and get a decent nights kip, and you feel fresh as a daisy in the morning unlike a lot of other sleep solutions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Also used to smoke it to help me sleep when I was working in London and effectively doing 14-16 hour working days including commute - great way to wind down and get a decent nights kip, and you feel fresh as a daisy in the morning unlike a lot of other sleep solutions.
    i normally wake up with a really groggy head the day after having a smoke (even more so than usual)
    Done it before, but tbh never found it that amazing. Just made me sleepy. :P

    I'll take a toke if/when it's offered, but thats it - wouldn't go outta my way to get it, or buy it etc. If I don't do it again, fair enuff
    same as
    Between me and 3 others we had a 1/4. Which (for the mathematically elite) is an 1/8 each.
    surely thatd be a 'teenth' each


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    Originally posted by phobos
    Between me and 3 others we had a 1/4. Which (for the mathematically elite) is an 1/8.
    [Pedantry]

    Four eights is a half. Four sixteenths is a quarter.

    [/pedantry]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    Smoke occasionally, socially. The odd time when I need help sleeping.

    Seeing as this thread is slowly turning into a discussion rather than a poll, here's my 2c: I really don't like the ****e we get in Ireland - I'd much prefer some proper skunk to mangy petrol-soaked hash. I can't say I enjoy smoking a hash joint (I smoke because I like the effects), it's only the natural stuff I actually enjoy.
    Even the buzz is different with proper weed - with hash I feel a slight buzz masked by the fact that I'm body-stoned; I'm pinned to the chair and feel drowsy and lethargic. I get a much 'purer' high with skunk - much less of a drowsy sensation, then about 20 minutes later the psychoactive buzz hits.


  • Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,600 CMod ✭✭✭✭RopeDrink


    I have smoked on occasion, but have never bought it...
    It's one of those things where you'll accept it if it's on offer, but wouldn't bother otherwise. I've been offered 'More' plenty of times, but smoking is the limit for me.

    Apart from that I'm a chain smoker (SuperKing Black) and go out drinking regularly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭l3rian


    ¼ ÷ 3 = a twelfth each :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    We would have an interesting poll if nice smoke was widely available here ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    Originally posted by l3rian
    ¼ ÷ 3 = a twelfth each :p
    Goodness. Me + 3 others = 4. And I bet you complain when your dealer rips you off.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    Originally posted by tactical anni
    We would have an interesting poll if nice smoke was widely available here ;)

    I'd take that as a yes from tac then , lol

    I voted no. Just have no interest in it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭exiztone


    Yeah, but not regulary... just when going out I might throw in a £10 to buy half a score with someone....
    Hmm ganja... 1st time I'v heard someone call it by that, are you Jamaican?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    I don't smoke often, but I rarely say no when I'm offered, much like beer :)

    i do get verry tired/lazy when I smoke hash alright, but if you smoke enough of it, and not just have a few tokes.. the high can be alot better/different than grass/skunk, so *shrug* I like it..


    and yeah, it's a nice social drug, handy way of starting up a conv. at a party


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭l3rian


    Ok, maybe i should read more carefully, or maybe i should start smoking again :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    Ah feckin drink. I was completely bolloxed when I wrote that last night. I stated I probably shouldn't say what happened. But TBH, I'm glad I did. ;)

    And just to clear the maths up (now that I'm sober), it was a half we had between the 4 of us (so that would be an 1/8th each).

    Dr. Loon it probably was hash tea, but I'm not well up on these things. I was just stupid enough to turn in to a lab rat that night to see what kind of effect such a dose would have on me, I'll never do it again. It's been 6th months since that eventful night.

    It was one of the other lads that prepaired the drinks for all of us, and it smelled like a pub toilet that hadn't been cleaned in a while. I remember all of us holding our noses while drinking it. The drink was clear, coz it was mainly water, and it was cold (so I am guessing it wasn't tea, but then again what do I know). The secret additive was not another form of drug. It was something that was bought in a health shop (a powder). The end result was like lumpy water. All the gear sank to the bottom, and I remember on my last gulp I nearly choked coz I think I swallowed the 1/8 whole.

    Anyway after 1.5 hours I was in deep thought mode. Actually the only thing that I found hallarious about the night was that we drew straws to ring a chinese take away, and I ended up having to make the call. Anyway I got the number, rang it, and some guy answered. I asked him could they do a delivery, and he said that they had closed. I said OK, thanks, and hung up. Now that wasn't the problem, the problem was that a few days later I checked my call log, and that call lasted 4.5mins. If I was not under the influence of anything, that would have lasted maybe 10-20 seconds (tops). So thinking about it, I was probably sitting there very silent, in between questions, while the guy on the other end of the phone repeatedly asked me was I still there. :rolleyes:

    Anyway, I've learned and moved on.

    ;-phobos-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    I wouldn't call myself a smoker but lately I've smoken a bit but I'm not going to have any during school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Used to..not much compared to my mates butt still...
    Dont anymore...rarely even drink these days...
    but I'm not going to have any during school
    Thats what my mates said...never happened....

    BUTT...gl with trying not to smoke during skool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Makaveli


    Originally posted by phobos
    Now that wasn't the problem, the problem was that a few days later I checked my call log, and that call lasted 4.5mins. If I was not under the influence of anything, that would have lasted maybe 10-20 seconds (tops). So thinking about it, I was probably sitting there very silent, in between questions, while the guy on the other end of the phone repeatedly asked me was I still there.


    Now that is funny. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭Ruaidhri


    Ah feckin drink. I was completely bolloxed when I wrote that last night.
    seems the mord factor is incresing exponentally on these boards :)

    ok that aside i used to smoke a LOT. i gave up for all of leaving cert and then made up the a year out.currently not smoking at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    Would smoke socially.
    Hate tobacco. That stuff can kill you (NO ITS NOT IRONIC!:p).

    Hash is harmless. Like shinji says tho, treat it with the respect you would drink. It you have a lot, your head will be fuked. Thats not hash's fault. Same as getting sick from drink isnt drinks fault. Its completely voluntary. More so than drink, since alchohol is slightly addictive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    yes beat I won't say no to a spliff if offered after a nights drinking or simply between a few friends having a quiet night in watching a flick/whatnot :p

    Food for thought..

    An Uncle of mine was a fierce alcoholic for years on end. He nearly lost his business, (a restaurant) he lost his wife and he also nearly pushed his family away from him completely as he was violent, uncontrollable and abusive. His money was drifting into holes that didn't seem to exist.

    He was offered a spliff by one of his friends and after he'd smoked it he thought to himself for a bit quietly. He gave up the drink and took to the smoke (yep, just like that).

    He is now in control of his life again, he is friendly, he has his love life back, he has plenty of money from his business. He has built himself a new house and it's looks like he's set up for a nice retirement. He gets on well with his sons and daughters and runs a campsite during the summer months. Life is good.

    Different Strokes for different folks, everyone's situation is unique.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    phobos.. get me the name of whatever was in that bag :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    In fairness this thread started out innocently with a "do you, or, don't you" type discussion. But I'm not going to expose the ingredients of a coctail that nearly drove me to depression on a 2 day bender.

    Anyway I really don't recommend it. If you smoke, you smoke. But let's not try and take it any further than that.

    :)

    ;-phobos-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Used to smoke loads, I think I've stored up so much in my system I don't need to smoke anymore. I am pro legalisation but i also don't smoke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    I used to smoke Mossy loads of the stuff, everyday everynight, weed, hash, that hash liquid stuff (forget what it was called)
    Im pretty sure we pioneered the Bucket and 3litre country spring water bottle bucket bomb:D used to mae t and stuff with the water in it, we were crazy:D
    i gave it up a few years back after having a bit of a freakout after doing a buckbomb in a mates gaff, i lost the plot and ran down moby road waving my arms in front of my because they were leaving impressions in the air, i thought i was bruce lee at one stage.
    i made it him and had a drink as my mouth was extremely dry and the glass had an chip gone out of it, it was ages old and not sharp but when it touched my lip i thought i had cut it, i could taste blood and feel it running down my face. i was told afterwards that i had done a bucketbomb with ZeroZero, now i dont know if that is true as ive always belived that 00 doesnt exist.
    For those of you who dont know what 00 is its hash with LSD, Coke, E, and what ever mister dealer has left on his table after doing up the portions.
    Im still not sure what happened as it never happened before that night but i make sure it doesnt happen again,
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭jd


    Originally posted by bombidol
    Im pretty sure we pioneered the Bucket and 3litre country spring water bottle bucket bomb:D used

    No ya didn't, [reminisce] in our day it a 2 litre cider bottle, through tequila [/reminisce]

    used to smoke. Loads. Rarely do now, unfortunately i've had a toke when I'm pissed, and have regretted it in the morning-adds to the hangover..

    As for Double zero, whjat ya were getting wasn't Double zero, Bomb
    Crumble on top several sheaves of grass that you've dried earlier. Over that lay a sheet of that heavy plastic which chemicals come in, and pull the whole affair tight with a noose of heavy rubber. Then beat the whole thing - gently - for 30 seconds.

    That's "first shake" - only the pollen falls through the mesh. What looks like an empty bucket to the beginner is now actually covered in a thin patina of pollen which, scraped together into a few scant grams of almost gold dust, can be heated and pressed in the palm of your hand into pure "double zero" cannabis resin.

    "Second shake" is the same thing again, only much harder, so you get smashed leaves and, obviously, much more quantity. That's what shows up in most European capitals - if you're lucky.

    "Third shake" is everything including the kitchen sink and your broken modem.

    another link here
    I think we generally get no 3, with a buckets of horse tranquillisers in Ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Kopf


    Originally posted by phobos

    Between me and 3 others we had a 1/4. Which (for the mathematically elite) is an 1/8 each.

    No it's not. there are two eighths in a quarter. 2/8 = 1/4 . duh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    Originally posted by phobos
    Ah feckin drink. I was completely bolloxed when I wrote that last night. I stated I probably shouldn't say what happened. But TBH, I'm glad I did. ;)

    And just to clear the maths up (now that I'm sober), it was a half we had between the 4 of us (so that would be an 1/8th each).

    ;-phobos-)
    And if you read a little further down, you would have seen that when I returned to a sober state, the maths proposed less of a problem.

    pfft muppet :rolleyes:

    ;-phobos-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    what you mixed with it sounds suspiciously like ginseng or one of those 'revilalising' things you get in health shops, supposed to be a natural pick me up for the body, but i doubt that was the problem, i'd say it was more swallowing the 1/8 whole....

    and yes i do smoke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭superconor


    ok, i would like straight up 100% no BS answers. what are the harmfull effects of marijuana. i just want to know from sum1 who doesnt take it or takes it irregularly. i mean im not takin it till im at least 16, but wat are the effects of one puff a week or so? like a joint between 3-5 peeps a week/month like? or a bong? and i really dont want to get like 5% really stuff, 95% ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭phobos


    Sorry superconor (don't mean to ignore your good question, I honestly don't know the answer, coz I don't smoke). But Seraphina, it definately wasn't ginseng, coz I used to take that stuff (on its own) while in college. I know I won't remember the secret ingredient myself, because on that paticular night, even finding out what it was, wasn't really a priority of mine. As I said before i wasn't the one who prepaired the coctails, but I trusted their judgement nevertheless.

    How they got a bolloking from me a few days later, and also from one of the other lads, who had a similar experience.

    ;-phobos-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    I really don't like the ****e we get in Ireland - I'd much prefer some proper skunk to mangy petrol-soaked hash.

    Yeah I should have mentioned in my post that this is very much the case - you just don't get hash in England, and there's no way I'd have smoked that as an aid to sleeping because it does make me feel like someone's shat in my mouth when I wake up :)


    Superconor:

    I'm certainly going to have someone bouncing on my head for this, since it's not the commonly accepted propaganda, but here is what I know about the side-effects of marijuana use based on what we have scientifically or empirically proven...

    Firstly, it is a depressant. That doesn't mean it makes you depressed, but it does mean that it supresses your nervous system and certain areas of brain activity - inhibitions, basically, similarly to alcohol. It has a definite effect on your brain, and if you're not happy with not being completely in control, don't do it. Conversely many writers etc - myself included - find that it's a superb cure for creative block simply because it DOES change your thought process.

    Secondly, it is potentially psychologically addictive. A very small - but significant - number of cannabis users find themselves addicted to it, not physically but mentally. This isn't the fault of the drug, its the fault of the personality and needs to be cured by basic life changes and perhaps therapy or counselling sessions. Usually those who are psychologically addicted to cannabis are this way because they use it as an escape from having to face realities sober. That said, psychological cannabis addiction is less common and less dangerous than psychological alcohol addiction - more commonly known as alcoholism.

    Thirdly, smoking cannabis will give you lung cancer - just the same as smoking tobacco will. You're not designed for inhaling smoke, your body doesn't fancy having hot burnt particles knocked around your alveoli, and eventually it will give you lung cancer and you will quite probably die. However, light cannabis use - a joint a couple of times a week or less - is less damaging to you than a day walking around a smoggy city like London, and probably less damaging than twenty seconds in downtown Los Angeles. Smoking kills because many people smoke several packs a day. If you're smoking as much as two or three joints a day, you need to seriously reconsider your intake.

    Fourthly, cannabis is an anti-motivational drug. This is one of its psychological effects. Many long-term cannabis users - or more accurately, abusers, since these people are generally smoking FAR too much - find themselves very lethargic and simply lacking in "get up and go". However, there is no scientific evidence to support the claim that this is due to THC - the active ingredient in cannabis - lingering in the brain, as some anti-cannabis campaigners have suggested. It is considered more likely that it is a purely psychological effect caused by the basic lifestyle of many cannabis abusers; if you spend several hours a day stoned, it IS going to affect the rest of your life.

    Fifthly and finally, it's illegal. You can be arrested in Ireland for possession, and in England you can be cautioned for it. If you're not happy with that, don't do it. Personally I don't agree with those laws and I choose to break them, in the belief that I am not harming anyone by doing so and that I am prepared to take responsibility for my own actions. Bear that in mind.


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