Champions League on ITV1, ITV2 and ITN News Channel

Andy Mc

Hi,

I was just wondering with the Champions league starting again soon and the collapse of ITV digital which ITV stations will show the Champions league on Tuesday nights especially if 2 British teams are playing at the same time.
I have a UK FTA card and also want to know is there anyway to get ITV 2 or is there any chance that ITV 2 will be made FTA in the UK so we can access it here and enjoy full access to the Champions league.

Cheers

ITV 2 is being made available fta on the new version of digital Terrestrial tv in the UK(digital tv through your aerial).So if you are near enough to NI, or down here in the South East , you could investigate that route.

It would seem unfair if as a result it was not on the BBC card for Sky.It is unlikely that it will be as when ITV concluded a deal with Sky for carriage on their EPG system in the UK, ITV stung Sky's tail by charging them for ITV2.
That meant that channel would only appear on a uk sub card only:(
mm

DMC

No Andy,

ITV2 is a Family Pack-and-above channel on UK subscriptions. It was part of the deal to get ITV1 on Sky Digital in the first place, that Sky pay ITV for ITV2 to appear on Sky.

So it will still have to be TV3 on Tuesday...

Andy Mc

If there is two games on a Tuesday night would ITV show the 2nd game on ITN or Granada plus, because from what I am aware they have made a commitment to show every British team in action in the Champions league live. If a game was shown on one of these channels would these channels be blocked for ROI viewers, in other words would you need your FTA card to access them.

Andy

DMC

They may have committed to showing them live, but remember the federal structure of ITV.

Say for instance, Liverpool and Arsenal are playing on the same night, there is nothing stopping Carlton, Anglia, Meridian regions showing the Arsenal game and Granada, Yorkshire, HTV and Border and all the rest showing the Liverpool game.
The regions will decide what is the best night to show games. Like if Celtic get through, you can bet your bottom dollar that Scottish will be alternating coverage each week, one week Tuesday, next week Wednesday.

And anyway, with an FTA card, we can watch all regions!

ShaneOC

Originally posted by Andy Mc
If there is two games on a Tuesday night would ITV show the 2nd game on ITN or Granada plus, because from what I am aware they have made a commitment to show every British team in action in the Champions league live. If a game was shown on one of these channels would these channels be blocked for ROI viewers, in other words would you need your FTA card to access them.

Andy

I cannot see ITV using ITN or any of the Granada channels to show Champions League matches. If there are two games featuring UK teams then they will most likely show one on ITV1 and the other on ITV2.

If they did show a game on Granada plus and it was blocked to us in the republic, then the FTV card would not help as it would not give access to that channel.

carrolls

Interesting fact.
ITV2 is advertised as part of the latest Irish package in the new "Get Sky Installed" pamphlet (Yellow). The previous blue pamphlet didn't have it advertised at all.
Mayde they were ready to switch it on for us, and then ran into rights issues.
We have a case for false advertising. (Or do we?)

If there is two games on a Tuesday night would ITV show the 2nd game on ITN or Granada plus

ITN and Granada plus are not affiliated to the Independent Television Network(ITV) or the IBA so they don't have rights to show the matches. (Just the same as ITV digital is not affiliated to the Independent Television Network, as the Nationwide League found out to its cost)

Mossy Monk

but ITN is to be renamed ITV News soon

DMC

Some clarity needed.

Granada Plus is owned by Granada Sky Broadcasting, a joint venture between Sky and Granada. No connection whatsoever with ITV, only that Granada is the main shareholder.

ITN is owned by Carlton, Daily Mail and General Trust, Granada, Reuters and United Business Media, but ITN will be taken over almost completely by Carlton and Granada in the near future. Must still be shown as independent, no chance of a game here on the ITN News Channel, but who knows after it is rebranded ITV News Channel? Not likely, BBC News and Sky News would be up in arms.

There is no such thing as the Independent Television Network, though there is the ITV Network Centre, which has David Liddiment at the helm, but this is only a place for scheduling, commissioning and purchasing programmes.

The IBA (Independent Broadcasting Authority) died in 1990, and was replaced by the ITC (Independent Television Commission) The ITC's first act was to get rid of Thames, TV-am, TVS and TSW in favour of Carlton, GMTV, Meridian and Westcountry, in the 1992 "highest bidder" franchise round.

The Football Leagues downfall was the fact that in the contract that was signed, there was no mention that Carlton and Granada would guarantee the fee if ITV Digital went under. It was in the draft, but not in the contract. Silly people.

Hope that clears up some things.

carrolls

Crystal clear. No champs League on ITN

byte

Originally posted by carrolls
Interesting fact.
ITV2 is advertised as part of the latest Irish package in the new "Get Sky Installed" pamphlet (Yellow). The previous blue pamphlet didn't have it advertised at all.
Mayde they were ready to switch it on for us, and then ran into rights issues.
We have a case for false advertising. (Or do we?)

I haven't seen the new pamphlets yet as im off work for hols! I hope it appears but I doubt it. If you have the previous blue one, you'll notice that TalkSport was listed! But we cant' receive it.

DMC

I stand corrected...

Alerted to me on another forum.....

http://www.itv-football.co.uk/articles/news/story.html?articleid=234582

UEFA Champions League on ITV

ITV's exclusive, award-winning, coverage of UEFA Champions League football kicks off this month with a new transmission pattern across the broadcasters two channels, ITV1 and ITV2.

ITV1's live coverage of the competition moves to Tuesday evenings from Wednesday evenings with ITV2 showing the pick of the Wednesday live games. The ITN News Channel will also carry live games featuring British clubs.

ITV1 begins the First Group Stage on Tuesday September 17 with live coverage of Liverpool's trip to Valencia, presented by Desmond Lynam. ITV2 will show Arsenal's clash with Borussia Dortmund, presented by Angus Scott. Highlights of both games will be shown on ITV1 later in the evening in a programme presented by Matt Smith.

On Wednesday September 18, ITV2 will screen live coverage of Manchester United v Maccabi Haifa with Jim Rosenthal hosting the action from Old Trafford, while the ITN News Channel will carry live coverage of Dynamo v Newcastle United fronted by Angus Scott.

ITV1's Wednesday evening highlights programme will be presented by Gabby Logan throughout the season.

ITV2 and the ITN News Channel are free-to-air digital channels available on digital terrestrial, digital satellite and cable services.

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I thought it would be a possibilty if the rebrand had taken place, but it will surely spike up the viewing figures for ITN News Channel!

DMC

I should add that that up there is wrong, ITV2 is NOT a FTA channel on Sky Digital. For viewing in the UK you need the Family Pack minimum, and its not viewable at all down here.

Is ITN News Channel available on Digital Terrestrial, I dont think it is, can anyone confirm?

Richard

Originally posted by DamoDMC
I should add that that up there is wrong, ITV2 is NOT a FTA channel on Sky Digital. For viewing in the UK you need the Family Pack minimum, and its not viewable at all down here.

Is ITN News Channel available on Digital Terrestrial, I dont think it is, can anyone confirm?

Only 6am-9am at the moment, though it is due to be on throughout the day when the freeview consortium gets going. Actually - I don't know why they couldn't put it where the ITV Sports Channel used to be now. They would need to secure GMTV's agreement to run it from 6am-9.25 however, if they wanted to keep it on one channel the whole time.

dmeehan

i must be thinking of a different channel

isnt ITN on all the time? its on the epg in the 500's, after the two american financial news channels?

ShaneOC

Originally posted by dmeehan
i must be thinking of a different channel

isnt ITN on all the time? its on the epg in the 500's, after the two american financial news channels?

It's on satellite 24 hours a day, but the question above was about digital terrestrial.

dmeehan

oops
tis a bit early in the morning yet

icdg

Originally posted by DamoDMC

I thought it would be a possibilty if the rebrand had taken place, but it will surely spike up the viewing figures for ITN News Channel!

Indeed...as a news junkie I never thought I would say this about a news channel, but the ITN News Channel is...well...boring. Its underfunded and as a news channel only seems to go through the motions, unlike the good efforts Sky News, CNN, and BBC World do.

The rebrand should be happening probably around the time ITV's new "Celeberties" image launches in October (which we in UTV-land will hopefully be spared), but ITV probably do not want to wait till then.

Here's some games that are coming up on ITN:

Wed 18/9: Newscastle - Dynamo Kiev - Newscastle
Wed 25/9: Arsenal - PSV Eindhoven
Wed 2/10: Arsenal - Auxerre

Mossy Monk

will ITN or whatever it is going to be called remain FTA or will it need at least a FTV card

Aquos76

During the adverts on On The Ball yesterday on ITV. They Advertised the champions League as follows.

Tuesday -

Valencia v Liverpool ITV1 (Live)
Arsenal V Borussia Dortmund ITV2 (Live)

Wednesday -

Man Utd v Maccabi Haifa ITV2 (LIve)
Dynamo Kiev v Newcastle ITN News Channel (Live)
(CABLE ONLY)

Cable only does that mean that it will be blocked on Sky (channel 525)

Richard

Originally posted by Sky Digi Kid

Dynamo Kiev v Newcastle ITN News Channel (Live)
(CABLE ONLY)

Cable only does that mean that it will be blocked on Sky (channel 525)

Probably. And what about DTT? Or maybe ITN won't be 24 hours a day at that stage. If so - a lot of people will be annoyed. I wonder if NTL ROI will have it - I would presume that they get their signal from DSat - so presumably not.

Still, it is a bit unusual to hear "ITN" mentioned on ITV1 these days!

dmeehan

its news all the way on DSat :-(
i checked the epg for wednesday (and tuesday too just in case)

DMC

Erm, the matches are on next week, not this week.

We'll have to wait until Wednesday evening to see if ITN are showing games on Dsat.

Richard

Originally posted by DamoDMC
Erm, the matches are on next week, not this week.

We'll have to wait until Wednesday evening to see if ITN are showing games on Dsat.

And if not - I wonder if they'll show news programming or just nothing.

DMC

If not, my bets are on nothing.

icdg

Originally posted by Richard


Probably. And what about DTT? Or maybe ITN won't be 24 hours a day at that stage. If so - a lot of people will be annoyed. I wonder if NTL ROI will have it - I would presume that they get their signal from DSat - so presumably not.

Still, it is a bit unusual to hear "ITN" mentioned on ITV1 these days!

As we discussed in another forum, I believe its possible for NTL ROI to get their signals from Langley, which is carrying the game. So maybe...or maybe rights issues will intervene. I'll check my EPG on Wednesday to see.

As for ITN...indeed, but remember it won't last for long. Oh for the days of "From the studios of ITN"!

jimbob

With ITN news channel going to be screening live champions League matches, i would like to know if they will be shown in the Republic or will they be blocked for us.
Does anyone know.

Richard

Originally posted by jimbob
With ITN news channel going to be screening live champions League matches, i would like to know if they will be shown in the Republic or will they be blocked for us.
Does anyone know.

I think there will be no difference between what is shown in ROI and the UK. Remember that ITN is Free-To-Air, so they can't use the EPG to block it. They may be able to temporarily remove it from the EPG but it would still be available in "Other Chanels"

If, as it seems, the DSat version of ITN will NOT carry the football, they will presumably either have alternative programming - or nothing at all.

DMC

No need for a new thread, merged with old thread and renamed.

CHRISTYG

Does anyone KNOW why the DSat version of ITN NC (in UK anyway-I'm not worried about ROI as I'm BRITISH not Irish-Long live Paisley and the DUP!!!) is not carrying the football!!!

PacMan

Not able to answer your question.

However :

I'm not worried about ROI as I'm BRITISH not Irish-Long live Paisley and the DUP!!!)

There are many other forums around to make political views. This forum is for discussion of satellite television.

Ballydung

Cheers CHRISTYG

I have been having terrible trouble at night sleeping recently but
after reading your post I will sleep tight tonight knowing your politcal views.

Nice one

Charles Slane

Originally posted by CHRISTYG
Does anyone KNOW why the DSat version of ITN NC (in UK anyway-I'm not worried about ROI as I'm BRITISH not Irish-Long live Paisley and the DUP!!!) is not carrying the football!!!

And what a day you chose to make a needless point about political and religious division in the world !!

But to answer your question (which seems so secondary), I'm sure it's about broadcasting rights.

Peace and Love !

Richard

Originally posted by CHRISTYG
Does anyone KNOW why the DSat version of ITN NC (in UK anyway-I'm not worried about ROI as I'm BRITISH not Irish-Long live Paisley and the DUP!!!) is not carrying the football!!!

Strange that you'd lower yourself to appear on boards.ie then!

I already answered your question above anyway. FTA channels cannot be selectively blocked - either everyone can get them or no-one can.

ebsa

It's a conspiracy between ITV & NTL

The evidence is staring us in the face...

NTL uplinks ITV, ITV2 & The ITN News Channel to DSat

NTL agreed to carry the ITV Sport Channel on their [UK] digital cable service when nobody else would

NTL, Granada & Carlton own the ITN News Channel

NTL bought the ITV digital customer database

Granada hates Sky

Carlton hates Sky

NTL hates Sky


http://www.mydigiguide.com/dgx/wbl.dll?h=1&a=2&dt=6&ch=565

ITN News Channel:

Wednesday 18th September 2002

Time: 19:00

UEFA Champions League

Live coverage of the Group E first round match between Dynamo Kiev and Newcastle United (cable viewers only). News continues for satellite viewers.

icdg

"And the word you're looking for is - anyway...."

Just to update you on the DCab situation, apparently we in ROI are getting the match. NTL must be living in a wierd time warp because they've listed it for 6pm-9pm, surely a mistake????

Mossy Monk

edit: should have read the posts above :cool:

CHRISTYG

Smash the Good Friday Agreement!!!!!

CHRISTYG

Why is EVERYONE on boards.ie A SUPPORTER OF TERRORISM???? I mean, I wouldn't be too surprised if someone came on to support the actions of Osama bin Laden and his evil henchmen!!! However, that is only a step away from your current actions!!!!

DMC

Originally posted by CHRISTYG
However, that is only a step away from your current actions!!!!

Hmmm, and you are a step closer from a 12-clicking.

Apologise for bringing off topic politics onto this thread or my mouse will be counting the clicks....

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by CHRISTYG
Why is EVERYONE on boards.ie A SUPPORTER OF TERRORISM????

have i missed something?

byte

Originally posted by Mossy Monk


have i missed something?

Don't fret! You're not the only one as I missed it too!

CHRISTYG

OK, Damo, do your worst!! (AS IF I'M SCARED!!!!!)

DMC

Fear the mod.

CHRISTYG barred from ICDG for excessive muppetry.

Normal service will resumed as soon as possible, for the moment we return you to the test card, and some music.....

Tony

Originally posted by DamoDMC
Fear the mod.

CHRISTYG barred from ICDG for excessive muppetry.

Normal service will resumed as soon as possible, for the moment we return you to the test card, and some music.....

I wonder how Christy brought himself to visit an IE domain. Oh well we will just have to get along without him:D


Tony

byte

ROFL!

icdg

Thanks Damien...

And now lets normal service resume on this thread.

NTL have changed their EPG listings and had removed the Champions League listing for last night 6pm-9pm on ITN, its now scheduled for tonight, 7pm-10pm.

But there's a caveat in the "More Info" - "This programme may not be available in all regions - please contact your local operator for information".

Hmm... what does the DSat EPG say? Just the normal "News" ?

Mountjoy Mugger

Hmm - as an aside, NTL's digital flavour of ITN News doesn't seem to have any footie on it tonight, in Dublin anyway.

icdg

Indeed.

While the football was listed up to the match, during the game the EPG changed to say "News" and ITN News programmes continued. Apparently we are one of the "some regions" where the game was not available.

Incidently, next Wednesday's EPG is showing football on ITN again. No doubt, we'll be treated to news...

ozsat

ITN News Channel will be screening UEFA Champions' League football via Sky platform from Wednesday.

But Eire will have ITV News Channel removed from their line-ups when it encrypts next week.

Mossy Monk

will it be on the FTV cards or subscription like ITV2