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Opinions on Roy Keane??

  • 12-08-2002 10:07am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭


    Extracts from Roy Keanes Forthcoming Autobiography have just been released to national papers,in them Roy comes across as a very honest and very determined sort of individual.

    Does this insight into the type of person he is change anyones opinions about him?

    or maybe you just think he's an egotistical mouth piece?

    Any views?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Stinkah


    Throughout this debacle I've always felt that keano was an egotistical mouth piece.

    But IMO that is neither hear nor there. The fact remains that what he says is actually right.

    I'm wondering did Ali got this much stick for being an "egotistical mouth piece" - because that's what he was. But of course - nothing game a flying feck - because what he said was actually right.

    Another fact still remains - Roy Keane is the best midfielder that Ireland have had in the last ten years and he _is_ an inspirational captain.

    I'm a long time ABU, but have to admit that I am generally in awe of keano when he dons the red devils shirt and feel great pride in the fact that he is Irish, and has lead his country in the same manner for years aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    If this guy has any dignity he would just leave it lie. The only reason this is surfacing is he and Eamon Grumphy are trying to sell a book.

    He is a good player but after his actions in the summer he has proved he is a liability to the team and is driven by his own overinflated ego.

    The most shocking thing I read in the reports is the FAI actually made attempts to broker a peace plan with the muppet again.

    Gandalf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    I was of the opinion throughout the whole sorry saipan debacle that most fo the blame lay on keane's side of the fence. Upon this new little drama I can safely say that my opinion is that Roy Keane is COMPLETELY at fault. He's turning out to be nothing short of a little whinging prima donna who didn't get HIS way.

    He's demanding that the FAI replace Mick McCarthy so HE can go back to the team. Then he's saying that a better manager could have gotten us past Spain. It's pointless to say what could have happened. And in any case, Spain got through on pure luck. We were all over them like a bad rash

    He's right. Everyone else is wrong. Who wants to spot what's wrong with this picture?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    I must disagree with ya lemming,while some make think Roy has a big ego its pretty obvious from the extract he doesnt,

    "theres not a day goes by that i dont think to myself what a lucky b***ard i am"

    hardly a comment made by someone with a big ego.

    Roy comments in saipan merely back up how he lives his life,he's a winner who believes second is nowhere.
    In saipan he merely lost the head because the rest of the players didnt share this attitude,if they did we mite have been cheering in the phoneix park a team that made a mark in the world cup not just more heroic losers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Originally posted by Sposs

    Roy comments in saipan merely back up how he lives his life,he's a winner who believes second is nowhere.
    In saipan he merely lost the head because the rest of the players didnt share this attitude,if they did we mite have been cheering in the phoneix park a team that made a mark in the world cup not just more heroic losers.


    To quote myself:

    He's right. Everyone else is wrong. Who wants to spot what's wrong with this picture?

    He's a very experienced professional footballer. He SHOULD KNOW when to hold his tongue. Just because the others didn't seem to share HIS exact opinion doesn't mean that they were any less hungry to lift the World Cup.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    I've just read roys comments here and I'm even more of the opinion Roy was shafted than before.

    It is something that makes me angry, cause it was not inevitable, but was done by W/\nkers who didnt want roy to make them look bad!

    Still i doubt this will actually change many peoples minds, as those against roy, will not look past the inflamatory language used, to read the story of what was actually happening.

    The guy was the team captain, and was right to speak out!
    And hes rigt when he says Staunton was a hypocrite sitting there saying he never heard lanaguge like it, I mean FFS the guy played under Souness!! al liverpool, and thats tame compared to what Souness will say if the teams getting beat!

    X


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    thanks for that Xterminator,that articule is more in depth than the one i read,but it still says the same Mc Carthy is a t*ss*r!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭DerekD Goldfish


    I agree im not in to this whole gracious losers thing we lost becaue of some stupid managerial decisions by an inept manager sending your best player home and playing your second best home. the FAI (also known as Fuc*ing Ano*ing Idi*ts or F*ck All Inteligence or Fools Anoying Ireland) as they hired mcCarth in the first place helped make the stupid aragments and help foster the Idea we are a small country and we should by happy with losing gracefully


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭Biffa Bacon


    It's been the same old story throughout Irish history - great men of action ****ed over by pig-ignorant bog-trotting small-minded paddies. Parnell, Joyce, Collins, and now Roy Keane.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    I consider that to be a total insult to the likes of Parnell that you would equate Keane as their peer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    This latest book has done nothing to endear keane to me, just the opposite.

    Hes a moaning, whingeing, bitter, two faced little man who is as unprofessional off the pitch as he is 'professtional' on it.

    On one hand he regales us with his sob story about how he was a massive drinker and went out on the piss before big games and then complains that people were drinking TWO WEEKS before the world cup started? Please fcuk off mr keane, theres enough double standards in this country without you preaching to us.

    Nearly every extract from the book has been him moaning about something - this isnt good enough, that wasnt handled properly. The man that is being hailed as a forthright man, not afraid to naysay the forces of evil in the country is nothing more than a moaner who is unable to accept the truth that he will never play on a world cup winning side. He talks about going out to win the world cup. Wake up and smell the decaf roy, its NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS OR ANY SQUAD in the next 4 years. No amount of complaining about things is going to change the fact that its not going to happen.


    Three years he held a grudge against Alfie Haaland over a minor incident. Three years he stewed and told himself he would have revenge. Finally he got his revenge, after 85 minutes of a match (presumably he didnt want to risk his precious professional self) against man city, he launched a terrible professional foul on haaland which could easily have ended his career. As he got up from the challenge he was screaming 'Take that you cunt, and tell your pal (david) weatherall that theres some for him too'.
    Maybe roy calls that being professional, but most courtrooms would call it premeditated assualt with intent.

    This is the role model that is being compared to parnell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Johnny_the_fox


    This is the role model that is being compared to parnell?

    he should be compared to King James (i.e James the Sh*thead) ?

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭OLDYELLAR


    i just want to say ROYS THE BOY! i back him up to the last and i`m totally on his side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    this doesn't change my opinion at all. i will back Keane all the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    u used to be a huge twat on and off the pitch. red cards left right and centre. Hes tidied up his game a lot and earned my respect. He mightn't get everything right and he can still be a twit but i do believe he was in the right in Saipan.

    However demanding that the manager be removed is slightly egotictical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭Ping Chow Chi


    If I was haaland, I would sue keane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Stinkah



    Three years he held a grudge against Alfie Haaland over a minor incident. Three years he stewed and told himself he would have revenge. Finally he got his revenge, after 85 minutes of a match (presumably he didnt want to risk his precious professional self) against man city, he launched a terrible professional foul on haaland which could easily have ended his career. As he got up from the challenge he was screaming 'Take that you ****, and tell your pal (david) weatherall that theres some for him too'.
    Maybe roy calls that being professional, but most courtrooms would call it premeditated assualt with intent.

    Apparently, according to this arcticle Roy may well suffer the consequences of these comments and actions. I also here that the F.A. want a piece of him and are reviewing his comments in this new book fully before making a decision on whether or not to fine him or suspend him.

    Roy is a man I love to hate, and at the moment there seems to be a touch of Gazza about the man isn't there?? I mean it would seem that everything he touches is turning somewhat pear shaped.

    As much as anyone will slate Roy for his actions and words in recent weeks, I can gaurentee that his autobiography will be a best seller by Christmas.

    I will be endorsing it anyway. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭Ping Chow Chi


    I actualy think Keane is many times the man that Gazza ever was.

    But you shouldnt go out to injure some one (or at least admit it after ;) ), and just what was the grudge about? - just that he shouted at Keane cause he thought he was faking the injury? I thought he dived until I saw the reply. If I remember correctly it looked like he tried to foul Haaland, missed and done himself.

    That sound bite had been published now to generate more interest in his book, it may cost him though, if Haaland does sue.

    I doubt that the FA will do anything other than a slap on the wrist though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Stinkah


    Let's be honest.

    It's not exactly a revelation that Keano premeditated that tackle Haaland. I mean come on like, everyone who saw that tackle realised straight away why he did it, and it was documented on several news and sports bulletins at the time.

    Still doesn't make it right or anything, but Haaland was the dirtiest player in the league by a long short for a long time even before his tackle on Keano - which I might add was the root cause of his cruciate legament problems.

    If Haaland does sue then he's a bloody eegit. We've talked about double standards in this post already, but that's the biggest of all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭Ping Chow Chi


    even before his tackle on Keano - which I might add was the root cause of his cruciate legament problems.

    I must be misten - I thought it was a miss-timed foul on Haaland by Keane that lead to Keane's injury.

    and the pictures in all their glory

    pictures


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    ...in order to pay his legal bill of course.

    Ping is right, here's the sequence.

    1. Roy tries to hack Haaland in 1997 and misses.
    2. Roy kicks pitch instead, gimps the knee, out for season, tough.
    3. Haaland who did NOT see the whole thing roars at Roy thinking Roy was trying to get Haaland into trouble.
    4. Roy hacks Haaland (sucessfully) 3.5years later.
    5. Roy who saw the whole thing then roars at Haaland afterwards.

    Haaland should sue Keane for all he is worth...quite a lot... because Haaland has not started a match since Kerane hacked him. The good news is that Haaland will be sucessful and Roy will still be building the pension fund in 4 years time so of COURSE he will play for Ireland in the world cup.

    He will need the pension fund because once he retires as a footballer he will be unemployable for reasons too obvious to mention.

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    What are you on about? there was no lasting damage done to Haaland because of that tackle the reason he hasnt played since is because he's crap,its that simple he's just not good enough,after all if keane hadnt go after him like he did not many of us would even know who haaland was.
    Roy will still be building the pension fund in 4 years time

    Ok if you really believe that you should go have a nice lie down before the voices come back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Sposs your red tinted glasses are really getting in the way of making a objective stance on this thug.

    Basically he has admitted he was out to get Haaland. For a professional footballer to admit this is unthinkable. Fair enough you injure your opponent in a tackle for the ball but to delibrately go out to injure an opponent is extremely low and unprofessional. Its conduct that I would expect of a amature player not a so called professional.

    In my opinion if Haaland sues he will win based on Roys own Autobiography alone. What kind of muppet is this guy, he thinks he's above the law. I thank god that he will never play for Ireland again as he is not worthy to clean Alan Kernaghans shoes anymore.

    Gandalf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    NO rose tinted glasses here.

    Keane deserves no pity at all for his missed season 97/98 he brought it on himself for trying to hurt someone.

    Keane deserves no pity at all for his missed European Cup final in 1999, he brought it on himself for hurting someone in the semi final.

    He deserves no pity for saipan, he largely brought that on himself too, his crime there was his attitude to team building. He should have been left to swim home, never mind fly.

    He deserves no pity for paying Haalands salary for what should have been the rest of Haalands career (or Haalands insurance company) because of the vicious tackle on Haaland

    Above all he deserves no pity because he opened his whinging mouth to dunphy and dunphy wrote it down and published it, what an arrogant person our Roy is to consider himself wronged in this situation.

    Keane wrote this book for the money and it will personally cost him a lot more than he gets from the book in the long term.

    For that cumulative lack of intelligence, decency and judgement he will be remembered as a nasty person and a potentially great player and not as a great player.

    He has no future beyond playing football except as a bingo club bouncer in Mayfield, that's if anybody will insure the Bingo Hall once they find out who they've hired on the door.

    Dennis Irwin is a true professional through and through and a gentleman and has a great future in front of him. Part of that future will involve Dennis talking over videos of himself playing and showing how to tackle properly.......you know the everybody gets up afterwards type of video.

    Sad but thats the way it is.

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Originally posted by gandalf

    I thank god that he will never play for Ireland again as he is not worthy to clean Alan Kernaghans shoes anymore.

    Well ... to put matters another way ...

    I don't him representing ME on the football pitch. He has no business wearing the Irish jersey anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    Your all such a bunch of judas's

    it wasnt that long ago your all cheering him,and wishing well and saying he's the greatest irish soccer player ever.

    When he gets playing for Ireland again,and he will play for Ireland again,he's too good not too.

    You'll be the same hypocrites cheering him from the terrances again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    Lookit.

    George Best was the greatest ever Irish soccer player.

    Roy will be boosting the pension fund within 4 years, if he can avoid being sent off for Ireland I may cheer him. I normally cheer the team of 11 and not any individual thereon.

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Sposs normally I cheer the Irish team. I've never cheered on a individual player, my you are a strange chap.

    I cannot see this thug playing for Ireland again. Again I cheer the team not a egotistical individual who is clearly not a team player or a true sportsman. Infact given all his prawn sandwich and rolex comments I think he is the biggest hypocrite to come out of all this rubbish. Well his little bookselling publicity stunt has blown up in his face.

    I really hope he gets a nice long ban for this.

    Gandalf.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Sposs,

    I have *NEVER* once cheered on Roy Keane. It's always been the Irish team, not the individual player. So take your "judas" comment and kindly stick it where the sun does not shine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    So take your "judas" comment and kindly stick it where the sun does not shine.

    Excellent point,im glad you enter this dicussion,i can now clearly see the error of my ways :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Well then Sposs, think next time before stand there and call people "judas" rightly or wrongly.

    Show me ONCE on these forums where I have supported "Roy Keane" and I will make a public apology to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    all this bleeding heart red cross rubish. Steven Gerrard+patrick viera+david batty etc have tackled people like keane did on halland. Keane is just too honest for his own good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    Beckham on Simone after the world Cup in France 98, when Man Utd play Inter Milan,but oh yea thats Golden Balls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    I don't know what all the fuss is about.

    They are all big boys. They run around for 90 minutes a week, kick seven shades of sh*ite out of each other, go home rub their bruises and collect a paycheck for that week bigger than most people will earn in 3 years.

    Everything they do is premeditated and planned ahead. Its big business. It stopped being a game a long time ago.

    On an international level its barely civilised war with the "players" acting as mercenaries.

    The Romans had the Colliseum we have soccer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Speaking of Red Tinted glasses. What about some people that dont like Roy Keane simply cos he plays for man u... ive met people that even admitted it. Im not saying ne of u are but it does happen and can influence u without u realising it just as my being a manu supporter is probably influencing my writing of this.

    And i dont believe Haaland was ever good enough to be in a top sides starting team. That of course aint no excuse for what Keane did to him which is obviously wrong and should be punished. But that kinda thing happens in football all the time and the paycheques he gets make ne sympathy i feel for him sueing disapear. (i do have symapthy that his life has been altered)

    I dont hide the fact that i like Roy Keane, true he can be a complete and utter tosser at times but i like his honesty and his skills on the pitch and imo his attitude in Saipan was caused by the fact that he wanted Ireland to do well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Its not a question of if Haaland will sue, rather he should
    sue. Keane was a thug in thought and action, imagine any
    well-balanced person waiting three to exact revenge on a fellow
    professional. A strong mesage needs sending out to all players.

    He should also be charged under law by the police with aggrevated assualt, as he would have been had this happened off the field.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    The fact I am an Arsenal supporter has not influenced me with regard to Keane. I don't like the man personally but if Arsenal had the opportunity to sign him before his actions this summer I would have been more that happy.

    Whats influencing me is his attitude and actions before the World Cup and now this situation.

    After watching that tackle again on the news and with the realisation that Keane waited 3 years to carry out this assault leads me to 2 conclusions, Roy Keane has serious problems and needs professional treatment for them and that the FA should ban him for the same period of time that they did Cantona because that was a assault and not a tackle. BTW I live in the real world and when I did play sport I was a full back and yes I did dish out some stick to players, let them know you were there, but I never ever went out to purposely injure a player and certainly never would have gone in on such a dangerous tackle as that.

    The fact that Haaland is still receiving treatment for this says alot and no discussion of his actual ability should detract from the arguement that Keanes action threatened his career. This imho will go to court and Haaland will win.

    Gandalf.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by gandalf
    The fact I am an Arsenal supporter has not influenced me with regard to Keane. I don't like the man personally but if Arsenal had the opportunity to sign him before his actions this summer I would have been more that happy.

    Whats influencing me is his attitude and actions before the World Cup and now this situation.

    After watching that tackle again on the news and with the realisation that Keane waited 3 years to carry out this assault leads me to 2 conclusions, Roy Keane has serious problems and needs professional treatment for them and that the FA should ban him for the same period of time that they did Cantona because that was a assault and not a tackle. BTW I live in the real world and when I did play sport I was a full back and yes I did dish out some stick to players, let them know you were there, but I never ever went out to purposely injure a player and certainly never would have gone in on such a dangerous tackle as that.

    The fact that Haaland is still receiving treatment for this says alot and no discussion of his actual ability should detract from the arguement that Keanes action threatened his career. This imho will go to court and Haaland will win.

    Gandalf.
    Hah... such lies. You obviously hate Keane for being a United player, I can sense it. What if it was an Arsenal player that has done the things that has done the things Keane has? I have never heard you saying anything about Vieira's actions and he's bloody French! Just face it youre biased.

    I admire Keane's honesty, most players would normally try to let it slip into history. And as far as his revenge on Haaland goes... If any player on a soccer pitch accused me of faking a serious injury, I would certainly seek vengeance on that player. I have done it before and done tell me right here and now that you haven't done the same thing in sports. If you can tell me you never did you deserve a medal. But most of you will lie no doubt.

    As a Manchester United and Ireland fan I give Roy Keane my full support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    Opinion on Roy Keane?

    Um... he's a really good footballer.

    Ahuh.

    S'about it, innit?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    I have never heard you saying anything about Vieira's actions and he's bloody French! Just face it youre biased.

    Viera is a tough player also (along with other noted players), however the issue here is that keane went out on the pitch that day with the express intention of putting haaland out of football, not that game, but out of his career. What other outcome did he expect from a takle like that? Its called Assault.

    I admire Keane's honesty, most players would normally try to let it slip into history. And as far as his revenge on Haaland goes... If any player on a soccer pitch accused me of faking a serious injury, I would certainly seek vengeance on that player. I have done it before and done tell me right here and now that you haven't done the same thing in sports. If you can tell me you never did you deserve a medal. But most of you will lie no doubt.
    I have NEVER tried to do anything similar to that. Plenty of times ive lost my head while playing sport and the time honoured 'red mist' has descended, but if you think that waiting 3 years and waiting for the oppurtunity to do that is normal, then heavy metal has been rotting your brain pornapster.

    If you admires Keanes honesty so much, could you explain to me why there isnt a word of critisiscm for Ferguson in the book? His indiscion and tinkering with team tactics is largely responsible for Utd's failure to win anything last year, yet keane lays the entire blame on his teammates. The fact of the matter is that Keane is not stupid enough to do a 'staam' and tell it like it is. Hed be shipped off to and italian club as well.
    Once again , the double standards of the man is astounding.

    And still, Irish people blindly accept everything this man says as gospel. Wake the fcuk up and accept keane for what he is - A gifted footballer with MAJOR problems. The sooner keane seeks professional help, the better for not only irish football, but society at large it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    You know what all this reminds me of?

    Charlie Haughey.

    The guy was the biggest crook going and yet people STILL are willing to kiss his arse despite him taxing people to the levels of 65% so he could live his champagne lifestyle et al.

    And here we have Keane. People are still trying to absolutely LICK his rear despite it being blatantly obvious just what kind of person he actually is.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    If you admires Keanes honesty so much, could you explain to me why there isnt a word of critisiscm for Ferguson in the book? His indiscion and tinkering with team tactics is largely responsible for Utd's failure to win anything last year, yet keane lays the entire blame on his teammates. The fact of the matter is that Keane is not stupid enough to do a 'staam' and tell it like it is. Hed be shipped off to and italian club as well.
    It's called understanding the situation. Unless you haven't noticed it in the book, Keane and Ferguson have a bond which has been the key to United's success over the years. It was the same with Bobby Charlton and Matt Busby.
    People are still trying to absolutely LICK his rear despite it being blatantly obvious just what kind of person he actually is.
    I think you've been listening to WWM too much Lemming. No one is trying to lick anyones arse here. I'm just defending him because he has a passion for soccer and loves winning. Yet you ABU's seem to find something wrong with this by saying he's spoiled, let his country down, **enter any other media riff raff here**. Keane possibly feels that he had let the club down in the 97/98 season when he was injured and Arsenal won the Premiership. He obviously blamed Haaland (as did I) for ruining United's season that time. He got his revenge possibly because of his consience telling him that it was time to ruin Haaland's clubs hopes for survival in the Premiership and got his revenge. I do believe that this was his motives and I do not blame him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    He obviously blamed Haaland (as did I) for ruining United's season that time. He got his revenge possibly because of his consience telling him that it was time to ruin Haaland's clubs hopes for survival in the Premiership and got his revenge. I do believe that this was his motives and I do not blame him.

    This is possibly the stupidest thing ive ever read in this forum. I know United fans are blinded, but this takes the biscuit. Haaland ruined Man Utds entire seasons by being fouled by keane? Thats what your saying. Your also saying that its correct to attempt to put a man out of his career because he uttered a few words in the heat of a moment 3 years previously.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    This is possibly the stupidest thing ive ever read in this forum. I know United fans are blinded, but this takes the biscuit. Haaland ruined Man Utds entire seasons by being fouled by keane? Thats what your saying. Your also saying that its correct to attempt to put a man out of his career because he uttered a few words in the heat of a moment 3 years previously.
    If its the stupidest thing you've read on the boards then you really should look at it again. **** sake I said that Keane probably blamed Haaland for ruining United's entire season, thats probably what Keane was thinking.

    **** man does anyone read things fully on these boards. I thought WWM was the only one not reading posts fully but now you've joined him it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    I can read perfectly. The fact that you cant blame him is the worrying part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    Hah... such lies. You obviously hate Keane for being a United player, I can sense it. What if it was an Arsenal player that has done the things that has done the things Keane has? I have never heard you saying anything about Vieira's actions and he's bloody French! Just face it youre biased.

    I really hope you are not calling me a liar Porna!!!! I expect a full apology for that comment !

    If Vieria (or any other player) came out and said that he premediated a assault on a player that has blighted and maybe ruined that players career I would condemn him like every right minded person would no matter what bias I have. Vieria has and will put some dodgy tackles in but I would sincerely doubt he would be so sickminded to plan it in advance and then gloat about it like Keane did.

    BTW whats wrong with Vieria being French are you adding racism to your blindness problem.

    I have followed soccer for many years and eventhough I slag other teams I respect them for their individual qualities and the players abilities in them.

    .... And as far as his revenge on Haaland goes... If any player on a soccer pitch accused me of faking a serious injury, I would certainly seek vengeance on that player. I have done it before and done tell me right here and now that you haven't done the same thing in sports. If you can tell me you never did you deserve a medal. But most of you will lie no doubt.

    This says a awful lot about you. The fact you would let what someone says to you dictate a outburst of violence towards them just shows you are immature. And again no I have not stamped down on someones knee joint with the aim of crippling them in a premediatated fashion. Again watch who you call a liar.

    The initial problem with Haaland came from Keane trying to hack him down and messing it up and in the process injuring himself. Haaland thought he was trying to get him sent off and reacted accordingly. Sick little Roy let this fester in his mind a plotted his revenge.
    As a Manchester United and Ireland fan I give Roy Keane my full support.

    Your full and totally blind support. Again I want a apology for that liar jibe.

    Gandalf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    This topic seems to have brought out the worst kind of ManU worshipping muppet . Ye should all show yeer mammies what ye have been saying and go to bed when she says so.

    Remember that it was dunphy, Mr. 'Roy Keane is a great player' himself no less, who published this load of bile against Haaland.

    If dunphy REALLY REALLY loved and respected Roy he would have made sure that this made it into the bin and not be published while either was playing (and within the statute of limitations).

    I thank dunphy for his cack handed plan to get a considerably less wealthy Keane back in green and Haaland thanks him too because with friends like this Roy does not need Alfie as an enemy any more........he'll have the Manchester plod and some legal type on his case very soon.

    To make it worse, I heard McCarthy got dunphy to get Keane to admit to the premeditate GBH on Haaland.

    What I have not heard yet from the ManU supporting muppet tendency is that Keane has let himself down, his club down(suspension and prison are probably in the offing) and has shown no leadership to anyone stupid enough to look up to him .....mainly muppets and kids under the age of 12

    In fairness to the decent fan I will say that this kind of thuggery is not typical of ManU or encouraged by its coaches and manager, purely a home grown Roy problem.

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭Ping Chow Chi


    Keane possibly feels that he had let the club down in the 97/98 season when he was injured and Arsenal won the Premiership. He obviously blamed Haaland (as did I) for ruining United's season that time

    what on earth did Haaland do to ruin their season except not get fouled by Keane. It was not Haalands fault that Keane miss time his his foul and hit the grass instead of his foot. Please do not try and re-write history :)

    Its such aa easy and cowardly thing to hurt someone like that on a football pitch, hardly in line with his 'hardman' image.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    I think you've been listening to WWM too much Lemming.

    No I have not Pr0napster.

    No one is trying to lick anyones arse here. I'm just defending him because he has a passion for soccer and loves winning. Yet you ABU's seem to find something wrong with this by saying he's spoiled, let his country down.


    Oh yes they are. There are many people who see Keane through rose-tinted glasses, and had he run your little sister/brother/dog down whilst drunk you'd probably still see him through rose-tinted glasses.

    He may have a passion for winning, but at what cost? He's become an angry, whinging little prima-donna. Yes he's spoilt. Someone who throws tantrums because they didn't get what they perceived to be the best and then lash out at everyone else is spoilt. And YES he let his country down. HE WALKED OUT.


    He obviously blamed Haaland (as did I) for ruining United's season that time. He got his revenge possibly because of his consience telling him that it was time to ruin Haaland's clubs hopes for survival in the Premiership and got his revenge. I do believe that this was his motives and I do not blame him.

    I find the fact that you do not blame him to speak volumes about just how biased and rose-tinted your view is towards the man.

    The fact that you also see nothign wrong with what he did is VERy worrying as to your general maturity level. If I were a manager/official and I overheard that I'd take steps to immediately have you expelled from whatever club you were playing for and possibly the national organisation. I would not want you representing sports in/for this country in any shape or form.


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