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Why we support any1 but england....

  • 18-06-2002 5:42pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭


    Recently in the letters page of the Indo there are all these letters in about how everybody in england is cheering us on but yet here when england is playing it seems to be treasonary to support them.Sorry to burst the bubble to any english who are reading but this doesnt stem from any misigivings over the North,colonisation etc etc.Its because the english are TOO DAMN COCKY!Here in Ireland when we go off to the cup we hope for the best.We hope to win but we face the fact that as a small country with less world class players than the likes of Brazil its going to be an uphill battle.And then theres the eng-er-land supporter.Who,if the team consisted of 7 wheelchair users,2 amputees and 2 blind men would still say that Brazil were crap.Now,the attitude is changing slightly i think.Its not just as cocky as it was.Ericsson has some ense-he takes the irish approach of hoping for the best,and it has rubbed off on alot of fans i think.But the reason tha t most of the known world does support englands enemy is because much of the english HATE the other team.In ireland we admit that the other team played better etc etc.In england they go on about beating the crap out of the argy bastards.They rejpoice when they got knocked out.And then they accuse the rest of the world of being bigoted when we cheer for the other side!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    what pisses me off about the english media is the way they have started billing this game as a 'clash of the old rivals!!'. what? feck off. They had one memorable game in 1970 and now its as if its a glasgow derby. sheesh. (its funny how were seeing a LOT more of banks' save than jairzinhos goal)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Scratch an Irishman and you'll get an unreconstucted Republican,
    one full of resentment, envy and a chip on the shoulder as large as the suger loaf (or maybe Gibraltar!), when the Irish have found it in thier hearts and heads to view the English like they would say the Dutch this country will have finally grown up.

    The Irish use England like an annex of this country and expect
    no change maybe thats because "the Brits" are actualy too generous, would it be great if you turned on the telly and heard
    Gary Lineiker say the Irish team consisted of makeweights and journeymen half of whom should'nt be playing for Ireland anyway
    as they're Brits. That won't happen of course because of something called fair play and courtesy...

    Discuss!


    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭sleepwalker


    I don't support England because I find theres a horrible air of smugness with the fans and the media in particular in the build-up to any of their games and of course after the games. Same opinion as Dustaz and The Gopher really.

    Whats wrong with not liking their football team for those reasons ? Whats the big deal that you have to imply the whole country are biggoted Republicians bearing chips on their shoulders and our stuck firmly in the past.

    I mean do you want to get rid of rivalry in football now ?

    Political Correctness becomes more sickening by the day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭Hairy Homer


    The kindest thing I can bring myself to say is that if England win on Friday, I will be delighted for my English friends, of whom I have many. And indeed colleagues, of whom I have fewer but in whose presence I intend watching the game on Friday morning.

    You can't throw off the weight of history overnight. Without wanting to punch everyone and anyone I see in an England shirt, I still cannot bring myself to support England in sporting matters. Maybe the next generation will be more outwardly conciliatory. Good luck to them.

    If English people say: 'But we support you. Why don't you support us?' I will say that they are being Carsten Janckers—ie missing the point. The correct analogy is to ask an English soccer fan: in a neutral contest would you support the Argentinians? Or the Germans?

    The answer would almost certainly be: No way, José (Jurgen). And for reasons that have little to do with football either.

    Taking a look at the '100 great world cup moments' TV program shown recently that a friend taped for me I note that one of the memorable moments was the 1990 incident when Frank Rijjkaard of Holland repeatedly spat at Germany's Rudi Voller, causing both players to be sent off.

    The commentator (and contributors) on this program gigglingly pointed out that Voller had started it all (while providing no evidence for the same) had provoked Rijkaard to his actions and anyway, he deserved it because of his permed mullet haircut. But really, because he was German.

    I remember Big Jack at the time giving a more candid reaction. 'If Rijkaard had done that to me, I'd have chinned him.' Voller didn't, but who would have blamed him if he did?

    Similarly the continuing hurt indignation and loathing caused by Maradonna's Hand of God incident. Fact: many people - including the ITV commentary at the time - hadn't realised that Maradonna had handled the ball because his hand was right beside his head when he did it. He gained no extra advantage in height by using his hand and still this squat little man managed to outjump the much taller Peter Shilton who, the English reckoned, was the best goalkeeper in the world at that time. (as well as being the owner of a particularly embarrassing bubble perm. Would Frank Rijkaard have been applauded for gobbing in that? I think not)

    Who remembers Joe Jordan of Scotland deliberately handling the ball in the Welsh penalty area and managing to convince the referee that it was in fact a Welsh player who had done so, resulting in a penalty which knocked Wales out of the qualifying tournament? I can't even remember whether it was the European Champ or the World Cup. It doesn't get brought up every time Scotland take to the field, you see. But then, Big Joe wasn't an Argie.

    My point is that every nation has its condign prejudices. And allowing them to be played out passionately on a sporting field is more honest and healthy than an ersatz, tree hugging hippy fantasy that the world is a cuddly place and all its people's fated to be friendly for ever. It's not. Keeping the peace is an ongoing struggle.

    If England win on Friday, I will shake my English colleague's hand, say well done and good luck. Then I will take off my Brazilian football shirt (memo to self: put in washing machine tonight) and get on with my day's work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 725 ✭✭✭pat kenny


    I don't support England because if they did the impossible and won the world cup we'd never hear the end of it. I mean every time england play I hear something about 1966.Its probably beacuse we live next door to them and get all their TV channels.
    If they do win expect all 8 screens of sky news to be showing the victory for the next few years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by Hairy Homer


    Similarly the continuing hurt indignation and loathing caused by Maradonna's Hand of God incident. Fact: many people - including the ITV commentary at the time - hadn't realised that Maradonna had handled the ball because his hand was right beside his head when he did it. He gained no extra advantage in height by using his hand and still this squat little man managed to outjump the much taller Peter Shilton who, the English reckoned, was the best goalkeeper in the world at that time. (as well as being the owner of a particularly embarrassing bubble perm. Would Frank Rijkaard have been applauded for gobbing in that? I think not)

    Ive got to say something which ive meant to say for ages. We have never heard the end of this ****ing goal. Yes, he handled the ball, yes he cheated. So did neil back in the european rugby cup. Why isnt he a pariah? the panel after the game basically applauded him saying he played the game to win. He cheated, same thing as maradonna. Its not the peoiple, its the media that causes me to dislike the english football team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    We watch all the games here in the office in London. All the English lads were as ardent Irish supporters as anyone in Ireland.
    Saything that I want them to loose on Friday...

    Cos they are our rivals, just like that Mayo pray that Galway wont retain the All Ireland...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    I`ve got English cousins and they also moan and feckin complain when they are beaten. Coming out with shíte like

    "We was robbed"
    "We had injuries"
    "The weather"
    "The ref"
    "The manager"
    "the man u players"
    "The germans/argies etc"

    It always someones fault never the fact that they were beatan fairly, theres always something.

    And before the argie match this year, there was outcry at the argies for celebrating on the bus after the World Cup 98 match.

    jaysis i hate English people not becasue of the History but because they are cúnts and if they win against brazil it will be hell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    I followed the English team in Euro 96. Ireland werent involved and I knew the English squad better than i knew the Spanish one, for example, so the choice seemed obvious. Then came the semi final with Germany. A simple football game between two good sides. Oh no its not cried the papers/media...its time to pull out the old World War Two memoribilia and act like complete arseholes (comparing a world war to a football game?).

    It was about as tasteful as Irish newspapers dragging up headlines like "Howd you like Warrenpoint you bastards?!?!" on the eve of a game against England. And I dont recall anyone (In England that is) saying anything against that undertone to the game being dragged up after 41 fecking years (How many of the fans watching were actually alive for WW2?). And seeing that I reckoned how the Germans would feel seeing that, and when match time came round I was shouting "Cmon Germany!!!!"

    The same thing went on with the Argentina game this WC - Maradonna the cheat (They forget the incredible goal he scored in that game though), The Belgrano, The Falklands - for England there seems to be very few football games that are just football games.

    Granted, Mikes got a point, being Irish the stereotype doesnt need much exscuse to cheer for the other team, but God do England give us every motivation to.

    Its also true that should England win the WC it will be announced at regular intervals for at least the next 78 years, even if they dont win a bloody thing between then and now

    BBC News 2067 "England has won the world cup, in 2002, just in case you forgot. Dont worry if youre afraid you will forget will be announcing this at hourly intervals till doomsday"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Tellox


    oh god, we'll never hear the end of it!
    they won in '66 and they're still on about it!
    god help us if they win it this year!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭NeRb666


    engerland are a bunch of over-rated twats, their fans are a disgrace, the media there are idiots, and basically everything about them stinks. That is why I shall be supporting Brazil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭donaloconnor


    I'm supporting Spain :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    I agree with everything Hairy Homers said, gg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Trev


    I don't like the way you class all England fans under one category.

    I understand why most of Ireland wont support England. I also understand how you may see us as cocky, but we are not all like that. I was dead chuffed to beat Argentina, I almost shed a tear when we did, as I did when they beat us in 98. Fact is, you will be just as happy to beat Spain next time you play them, what's wrong with that?

    For me, beating Argentina made my world cup, and as much as I'd love to see England go on and win it. Anything else is just a bonus.

    I hate the media's portrayal of the England football team, the way they go on about it, the way they are always sniffing out some sort of scandal, the way they aren't happy untill we win it. There is a small part of me (very small though) that (this is hard for me to put in to words) would prefer there was a way of England winning the World Cup without all the Newpapers ****e.

    But the fact is, if Ireland win the world cup (and I hope they do) you will be proud and it will be rammed down our throats for eternity. I feel that winning 1966 is a great part of my life, and I wasn't even alive to see it (I'm 18). I guess that is part of the arrogance that goes with winning the world cup.

    I don't feel I am arrogant when I say that England will not have a better chance to win the World Cup for another 30 years, than this year. Brazil are the best team left in the World Cup in my opinion, that doesn't make it any easier.

    Argentina v Germany in the World Cup final, who do I want to win? Argentina, I don't care about the war, it's **** all to do with me as far as I'm concerned. I've liked Argentina as a football team since I was a child (because the name sounded cool :))). I find German football boring.

    I personally classed Irish people as people who are strong minded enough not to give a **** about what they read, hear or watch about England. Perhaps I was wrong?

    GL for 2004.

    Dave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Trev,

    There you go again, being all reasonable and logical. The Irish don't either when it comes to the English!

    That said on todays DeiseAM on WLR-FM nearly the whole programme (2 hrs) was spent on the topic and 90% of the callers were fair minded and some even said they'd be cheering England on! The presenter said nothing in recent times has provoked such
    a large number of calls.

    Originally posted by Sand
    ..Then came the semi final with Germany. A simple football game between two good sides. Oh no its not cried the papers/media...its time to pull out the old World War Two memoribilia and act like complete arseholes (comparing a world war to a football game?).

    It was about as tasteful as Irish newspapers dragging up headlines like "Howd you like Warrenpoint you bastards?!?!" on the eve of a game against England. And I dont recall anyone (In England that is) saying anything against that undertone to the game being dragged up after 41 fecking years (How many of the fans watching were actually alive for WW2?).

    Not true Sand, at the time many thought that Daily Mirror "For You the War Is Over" parody headline with Gazza wearing a helmet was idiotic. Which it was, the Mirror ed Piers Morgan
    ended up apologising.

    Meanwhile for those who whine about 1966 et al, if England win this time 1966 will bearly be mentioned ever again! Result!

    I suspect the bad attitude here is really down to the fact, the knowledge that Ireland will never win a major tournament, they'll just be plucky, "spirited" underdogs for ever..."fighting Irish" blah, blah, blah...

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭The Gopher


    Originally posted by Trev



    But the fact is, if Ireland win the world cup (and I hope they do).

    I hope you mean in future world cups.Otherwise im glad to see that youve awoken from your coma.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    I hope England wins. I openly support them.

    Week in, week out, I support Liverpool. You could say supporting an English league club is different to supporting to the English national side, and I suppose it is. But week in, week out, people like me everying year are shouting "Come on Owen!" and "Come on Beckham". I dont see the why I cant still cheer on those players just becase their wearing 3 lions on their shirt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭sleepwalker


    I suspect the bad attitude here is really down to the fact, the knowledge that Ireland will never win a major tournament, they'll just be plucky, "spirited" underdogs for ever..."fighting Irish" blah, blah, blah...

    its comments like that, they are exactly why we hate your football team with a passion

    well played champ u managed to defeat yourself in the argument


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭smoke.me.a.kipper


    of course i supported ireland but after their early exit from the world cup, ill be supporting england. why? because their our neighbours. of course the rivalry is still there, but now that ireland are gone the rivalry is pointless for the rest of the wc.

    it's a shame that alot of irish people would rather see spain (the country that knocked ireland out) win the wc than england.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭CHRISTYG


    I know that this is not a political forum, but I'll just say my piece and go quietly. I come from the "side of the community" (I hate that phrase!!!!!) that is perceived to support England over the Republic, which isn't to say, that, as a football man, I wasn't supporting the Republic when they were still in it- you should have seen me during extra-time, and worse, during the penalty shoot-out!! But now that the Republic are out, I will be supporting England against Brazil. And I shall be DELIGHTED if England win the World Cup.


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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    /me puts on Brazil shirt.

    English football is boring, the only reason why the Argentina match was worth watching was because Argentina were attacking all the time but all England could do was defend and counter attack every 20 mins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by smak

    it's a shame that alot of irish people would rather see spain (the country that knocked ireland out) win the wc than england.

    Id much rather see the country who knocked us out win the thing than a country whos media will gloat about it untill the end of time.
    Id love to see seaman, cole, keown and cambell win a world cup. Id love to see some of my english mates have the amazing memory of thier team winning a world cup.
    Sorry tho, id deny them that because i KNOW what we'll all have to put up with for all eternity.

    Latest on the Brittish inventing a rivalry with Brasil. The beeb showed the 1970 game in its entireity to whet the appetite (Actually i didnt mind that too much, it was a great game and it was nice to see it again). Ive never seen them do this before. I assume its because they cant fire up the jingoistic spirt by invoking the hand of god, the belgrano, the war or god knows what else. God help them if they win, how will they get the great unwashed excited for Turkey or Senegal? (jesus, i hope the families of certain victims in Leeds are prepared for the worst)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    I'll be cheering the English football team on tomorrow. I support Scholes, Beckham, Butt, etc all season and I hope they do well in the WC. The problem most people have is with the sterotypical English fan. Seen the ad for the Fifa WC game? So I'm going to be a hypocrite and try and ignore the bastard fans and cheer the English team on.

    blah, blah.......not all fans are like that.....blah, blah, blah.....

    Originally posted by mike65

    I suspect the bad attitude here is really down to the fact, the knowledge that Ireland will never win a major tournament, they'll just be plucky, "spirited" underdogs for ever..."fighting Irish" blah, blah, blah...

    Mike.

    afaik our u-18 team made the final a few years back so we're going to win in 2006! COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Zaphod B


    Originally posted by NeRb666
    engerland are a bunch of over-rated twats, their fans are a disgrace, the media there are idiots, and basically everything about them stinks. That is why I shall be supporting Brazil.

    Yeah and the Irish team all live in a single room in a squat, eating potatoes, and will try to bomb us if we beat them...

    Generalisation eh can't beat it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I actually like the english players, the media i hate, most of the fans i hate (and that silly britana song)..and most of all..I hate the fact they hype them selves up at every chance.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by Zaphod B


    Yeah and the Irish team all live in a single room in a squat, eating potatoes, and will try to bomb us if we beat them...

    Generalisation eh can't beat it...
    Remember 1995?! Landsdowne road? Waaaaaah! Waaaaaah! We're losing 1-0 to Ireland lets tear up some seats and try to hit our own fans with them! Oh **** heres the Gardai! Waaaah! Waaaah!

    That was the first time I actually enjoyed the Gardai kicking the **** outta someone. Those steel-toe cap boots worked a charm!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    Remember 1995?! Landsdowne road? Waaaaaah! Waaaaaah! We're losing 1-0 to Ireland lets tear up some seats and try to hit our own fans with them! Oh **** heres the Gardai! Waaaah! Waaaah!

    That was the first time I actually enjoyed the Gardai kicking the **** outta someone. Those steel-toe cap boots worked a charm!

    yes, but youre a fúckwit and your opionion isnt important.

    you know nothing about football (or music for that matter), and you are just a rascist little maggot.
    cant you just die?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Zaphod B


    [ In reply to PORNAPSTER, not Whitewash :) ]

    :D Yay! Let's continue the policy of stupidity! :D

    If my comments were serious I expect I'd have been banned for saying something so stupid.
    It was of course in response to a equally stupid comment which said everything about the English stinks.

    Now in reply to other comments made here...

    Asking people not to make generalisations about an entire nation is hardly 'political correctness' gone mad.

    As for the English sporting media I couldn't agree more; but then again most of the English media is aimed at the right wing, be they football hooligans or MPs. But if you're going to colour all English people the same as then, then you're equally bad.

    As for the point of the English making a big deal of any victory of any kind, you're pretty dumb if you think we're alone in that. The Brazilian papers were screaming "Bye Bye England" etc so don't accuse England of being the cockiest, and like most English people, most Brazilian people with sense didn't agree with the view of the media. And my German friend, with his sense of superior efficiency, has never had any doubt that Germany would win the Cup and believes every other team to be utterly useless. Then again, unlike some people here I don't generalise whole countries so I'm sure not all Germans are like him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭DC


    England are out. I am over the moon!

    We are so inundated by british media - 24 hour news channels, newspapers, even the Internet. We would have had to endure unprecented triumphalism, jingoism, etc.

    Not only that but their brand of football sucks. Give me Brazil vs Senegal anyday!

    BTW I believe Ronaldihno meant to score. Just look at the angle of his foot and his body when he strikes the ball. Fabulous goal.


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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan


    yes, but youre a fúckwit and your opionion isnt important.

    you know nothing about football (or music for that matter), and you are just a rascist little maggot.
    cant you just die?
    Your opinion matters just as much as mine... dipshít.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    If you support an English club like ManU or Liverpool.. then why not wish the English team luck? Its comprised of players from these various clubs etc... Some of them even play for Ireland and we have no problem cheering for them! So what is it really? It cant be a football reason then or anything with the players.. so its political then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    I honestly couldn't give a monkey's who wins the world cup to be honest as Iv no interest in football if Ireland are not playing.

    Saying that tho I am delighted that England got knocked out and was hoping they would be due to the fact that if they had of winning the World Cup,the English media would not have stopped talking about it for bleeding years.

    It's a right pain in the arse the way they keep going on about 1966.

    Like let it go ffs it's nearly 40 years since it took place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by Blitzkrieger

    afaik our u-18 team made the final a few years back so we're going to win in 2006! COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN! :D

    I always forget , was it the u-18 or the u-21 that came 3rd in the youth world cup a while ago?
    Oh and the u-16 won the european championships :)


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    [ In reply to PORNAPSTER, not Whitewash :) ]
    LOL... just as I had anticipated. *sllllllllluuuurrrppp*
    Originally posted by Zaphod B

    :D Yay! Let's continue the policy of stupidity! :D

    If my comments were serious I expect I'd have been banned for saying something so stupid.
    It was of course in response to a equally stupid comment which said everything about the English stinks.

    Now in reply to other comments made here...

    Asking people not to make generalisations about an entire nation is hardly 'political correctness' gone mad.

    As for the English sporting media I couldn't agree more; but then
    again most of the English media is aimed at the right wing, be they football hooligans or MPs. But if you're going to colour all English people the same as then, then you're equally bad.

    As for the point of the English making a big deal of any victory of any kind, you're pretty dumb if you think we're alone in that. The Brazilian papers were screaming "Bye Bye England" etc so don't accuse England of being the cockiest, and like most English people, most Brazilian people with sense didn't agree with the view of the media. And my German friend, with his sense of superior efficiency, has never had any doubt that Germany would win the Cup and believes every other team to be utterly useless. Then again, unlike some people here I don't generalise whole countries so I'm sure not all Germans are like him.

    I was just making you realise that it ain't just the media, but it cover ALOT of the fans aswell. I didn't say anything about generalisation. Or am I mistaken as WWM likes to always point out without turning fiction (whats in that little brain of his) into facts.

    I very much agree with the statement made on the media side of things in England. They have alot to do with this hooliganism by not putting many incidents in the headlines (I can't actually remember any). This could put the hooliganism out of England altogether. It has improved alot in the last while though, and they need to keep it up. As far as we know there are probably fans in England somewhere fighting with people with Brazil shirts on them or whatever. We all know that alot of the English fans are xenophobic but not all. But there is quite a large amount.

    So don't be making any more assumptions on me again until you have actually READ my post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    LOL... just as I had anticipated. *sllllllllluuuurrrppp*


    I was just making you realise that it ain't just the media, but it cover ALOT of the fans aswell. I didn't say anything about generalisation. Or am I mistaken as WWM likes to always point out without turning fiction (whats in that little brain of his) into facts.

    I very much agree with the statement made on the media side of things in England. They have alot to do with this hooliganism by not putting many incidents in the headlines (I can't actually remember any). This could put the hooliganism out of England altogether. It has improved alot in the last while though, and they need to keep it up. As far as we know there are probably fans in England somewhere fighting with people with Brazil shirts on them or whatever. We all know that alot of the English fans are xenophobic but not all. But there is quite a large amount.

    So don't be making any more assumptions on me again until you have actually READ my post.


    hahahaha, youre seriously saying that the media creates hooliganism?


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    hahahaha, youre seriously saying that the media creates hooliganism?
    Holy shít! I used to think you were quite a smart person. But that just shows that you aren't smart enough even to read my post.

    I said that they weren't playing any part in getting rid of hooliganism. None of the incidents have ever been publicised enough in the papers. Weither it be international hooliganism or domestic problems such as club matches (eg. Millwall, Stoke, Portsmouth).

    Can you read that now please. Come back to me if you have any problems undeerstanding it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    I used to think


    now we both know thats not quite true.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    now we both know thats not quite true.
    Well I know that while you've been looking over my post trying to find that little detail there, I have been to twelve, yes twelve different boards making a few posts. Need some oil for your hamster wheel WWM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    Well I know that while you've been looking over my post trying to find that little detail there,

    no, ive been watching football.
    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
    , I have been to twelve, yes twelve different boards making a few posts.

    when you say posts, i presume you meant to say youve been spouting rubbish. but it is nice to see youve learned to count higher than your ten fingers allow.
    what did you do? take off your socks and shoes?
    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
    Need some oil for your hamster wheel WWM?

    not at all. although my hamster has given me more intelligent conversation than you have.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    (Sorry to interrupt your flame war, but I'd like to post something relevant)

    I don't think we hate the English, but I do think we hate England.

    The English themselves when we meet them in ones and 2s are fine, but when in groups are nasty (isn't every nationality?). When we see them in the media we say we don't like them, but we're not seeing the whole picture there. Individually, they are usually very nice, but they have their share of twats, as do we.

    England, on the other hand, the country, this is the entity which we hold a grudge against.

    What do you think?

    Al.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    when you say posts, i presume you meant to say youve been spouting rubbish. but it is nice to see youve learned to count higher than your ten fingers allow.
    what did you do? take off your socks and shoes?
    Uh huh... and the evidence of this is where exactly?
    no, ive been watching football.
    Yeah...
    not at all. although my hamster has given me more intelligent conversation than you have.
    Once again... evidence?


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by Trojan
    I don't think we hate the English, but I do think we hate England.

    The English themselves when we meet them in ones and 2s are fine, but when in groups are nasty (isn't every nationality?). When we see them in the media we say we don't like them, but we're not seeing the whole picture there. Individually, they are usually very nice, but they have their share of twats, as do we.

    England, on the other hand, the country, this is the entity which we hold a grudge against.

    What do you think?

    Al.
    I fully agree with what you have just said there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    I fully agree with what you have just said there.


    baaaaaa


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    baaaaaa
    Yes we all sympathise that you are the black sheep of boards.ie, so you just go over and stand in the corner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    Yes we all sympathise that you are the black sheep of boards.ie, so you just go over and stand in the corner.


    baaa

    come on. at least throw a decent insult at me.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    baaa

    come on. at least throw a decent insult at me.
    OK... do somthin stupid. I could have done it earlier but the chance has gone now.

    Throw some insults at me other that "oh look, you don't have a brain huhhuh huh huh huh!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    OK... do somthin stupid.

    sorry, im not a sheep, im not going to follow in your footsteps.
    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

    I could have done it earlier but the chance has gone now.


    thats becuase youre not quick enough. not too bright ar you.
    Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
    Throw some insults at me other that "oh look, you don't have a brain huhhuh huh huh huh!"

    i dont think i said that did i?
    but you seem to have hit the nail on the head there.
    still, put 1000 monkeys in a room with 1000 typewriters etc etc etc


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
    i dont think i said that did i?
    but you seem to have hit the nail on the head there.
    still, put 1000 monkeys in a room with 1000 typewriters etc etc etc
    Try somthing original next time WWM.
    sorry, im not a sheep, im not going to follow in your footsteps.
    Oo0o0o0o0oh! Got me there WWM!
    thats becuase youre not quick enough. not too bright ar you.
    Naw, I just didn't feel the need to insult a humble person like yourself until you challenged me to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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