DreamWeaver MX... OMG !!!

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 02-06-2002 10:41am #1

Webdesign as we know has changed.
I just d/l the trial.

It is mega. The new layout is awesome- Its a bit like EVRSOFT 1st page with the tabs and and cascading internal windows for new files. Loads of ready made stuff as well. Only really just getting to terms with new features but hours of fun and frollicks are predicted.

Interested to know if anyone else has got it yet and if so what do ya think?

[BTW- The macromedia site is low on screenshots so you can view the attached

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(Pity I didn't d/l the trial before I completed a site I've just finished- Sheesh I had to use DW v4 :rolleyes:

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donaloconnor · 02-06-2002 11:53am

Cool, very like Flash MX, same layout. I will request that download of Eon now

Mr E · 02-06-2002 3:04pm

Just been playing about with it for a while. Very powerful.....

dahamsta · 02-06-2002 3:41pm

I fired up both ISDN channels - it's a hefty download - and downloaded it a while ago, and I have to say it's a vast improvement. The old interface was very annoying, it absolutely drove me nuts and turned me off using DW for anything but essentials. The new interface makes things a lot easier and cleaner. Now if only they'd release it for Linux.

adam

donaloconnor · 02-06-2002 3:47pm

Originally posted by dahamsta
The old interface was very annoying, it absolutely drove me nuts and turned me off using DW for anything but essentials. The new interface makes things a lot easier and cleaner.

I totally agree, that was the reason i stuck to Frontpage 2000, but now i'll be moving to DW

Still havn't it downloaded yet

Must wait till my other 1GB of stuff comes down lol

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 02-06-2002 3:58pm

Agree with one and all.

Tha lack of a toolbar or tab system at the top of the interface was a pain. If you wanted to have all the panels open you couldn't see the feckin page. As you pointed out Donal, the bottom anchored context panel is very like Flash MX.

Whereas before I might use various proggies for a variety of tasks, DW seems to encompass them all. If I had any criticisms it would be the lack of a good interface for CSS editing- so I'll be sticking w/ TopStyle Pro for that.

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Also they still have not fixed the swf tags for compatability w/ NN4 for some reason. They keep leaving out the embed tags around the object ones ?? Bit of pain TBH, to have to keep coding that manually.

Overall...I'm a happy bunny

dahamsta · 02-06-2002 4:57pm

One shortcoming is the lack of a "Save All" shortcut key. You know, for when you have a few templated pages open?

adam

Zyox · 02-06-2002 5:21pm

started with frontpage, moved onto dw3 and liked it.
now im on dw4 ultradev and like it apart from the windows getting in the way (running at 1024x768)

must download mx soon. anyone have a download file size pls?

donaloconnor · 02-06-2002 5:24pm

about 48MB i think

Winters · 02-06-2002 6:09pm

Humm. Does look sweet!

Dreamweaver MX 30day WINDOWS trial:

http://www.macromedia.com/go/dwmx_trial_en_win

48.8 MB, English Version, 30-Day Trial for WINDOWS!

peterd · 02-06-2002 7:30pm

The floating menus do get in the way with dw3/4, but becoming aquited with the 'F4' key has saved time/hair on my head. Can't wait to get my hands on DW-MX, *droool* :rolleyes:

Winters · 02-06-2002 11:17pm

I am installing it now... after a 5hour download over this modem!

Oh the anticaption!

donaloconnor · 02-06-2002 11:49pm

Originally posted by Winters
I am installing it now... after a 5hour download over this modem!

You can blame eircom for that

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 03-06-2002 9:04am

Originally posted by dahamsta
One shortcoming is the lack of a "Save All" shortcut key. You know, for when you have a few templated pages open?

adam

Fear not...

Go to:
View -> Toolbars -> (tick) standard

And whata know "save all" button wiil appear

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BTW there is an MXP extension for that SWF embed code as well.

What cant this proggie do !!??

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 9:58am

awwwwwwwwww man

My download from eon this morning was incomplete, now i must wait till tonight

dahamsta · 03-06-2002 10:02am

Go to:
View -> Toolbars -> (tick) standard

And whata know "save all" button wiil appear

Ah well. Now I just wish I had a faster processor!

adam

Winters · 03-06-2002 2:18pm

Originally posted by donaloconnor

You can blame eircom for that

It goes without saying nowdays.

Humm. Tis the best Dreamweaver yet. Been using Dreamweaver sine ole DW2 and it is the best one ive used. Fireworks is also MUCH improved! Well done Macromedia... pity aboot the high prices though :rolleyes:

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 2:58pm

yeah prices are a bit pricy. Can't afford it, but other ways around it, never really buy software anymore, probably never will but i will buy dreamweaver and flash when i get older, they deserve to get money :P

Spunog UIE · 03-06-2002 3:42pm

started downloading dreamweaver now gonna take 3.5hrs on me 56k, go onnnnnnnn

got flash mx the other day, well okay took 4-5days on and off. Sure is purdy, but really want to try the new dreamweaver have been usin 4 for the last ages and its cool, and with getting rid of those nasty floaty property bars can't wait. the tabs look well fancy.

what do people use fireworks for? have 4.(point) sumthing here and never really used it cept once for a menu, can't see whats so great about it, prefere to use an image editor like photoshop or paintshop, what am i missing!?

Gid.

root · 03-06-2002 3:53pm

I've had the full version for over two weeks now.It looks the exact same except it has lots of kiddies colours now.

don't get me wrong I'm a big dreamweaver fan, but it just looks like they added lots of color.I still use the old interface with dreamweaver mx.

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 3:54pm

Originally posted by Gideon
what do people use fireworks for? have 4.(point) sumthing here and never really used it cept once for a menu, can't see whats so great about it, prefere to use an image editor like photoshop or paintshop, what am i missing!?

I'm the same, only used fireworks once same as you, for a menu, and I use photoshop now, but download Ver 7 now also though, i'm on ver 6. Flash MX+Photoshop+A Lil Frontpage = http://www.xp-users.com/emerald/

Photoshop is pretty cool for the image sliceing and the blue pic in the middle, was made up of 3 seperate pics with a bit of transpareny and blue stuff it looks quite cool, don't you think. Well anyway i'm going off the point here, can't wait to get rid of frontpage and move on to dreamweaver

The thing that annoyed me with frontpage was that it made all its own decissions, like if i had php code, it would alter the damn thing and it becomes completly useless, where bys dreamweaver doesn't do this

Keep the Dreamweaver Comments comming, so far it looks amazing from what i see on this tread.

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 03-06-2002 3:58pm

Originally posted by Gideon
what do people use fireworks for? have 4.(point) sumthing here and never really used it cept once for a menu, can't see whats so great about it, prefere to use an image editor like photoshop or paintshop, what am i missing!?

Gid.

I'm with you on that Gid.
The only thing Fireworks is handy for is integration with some of DW extensions like the photo album and convert text to image etc. Other than that i dont use it all. PSP 7 and Xara X are my weapons of choice

(Adobe Illustrator 10 the odd time as well)

Winters · 03-06-2002 4:04pm

I could never get used to photoshop. I like Fireworks nad have been using it for a while. Fireworks MX would be on a par with Photoshop. It has been MUSH improved since version 4.

Am i the ONLY fireworks user?

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 4:17pm

Ah maybe i will start using it as soon as fireworks MX comes out

Cabaal · 03-06-2002 4:23pm

Downloading it now,
Just started, will be done in a hour
128K leased line rocks

I gota say Dreamweaver rocks!
I started with Symantec Visual Page 2 (NEVER Liked Frontpage) and went to Dreamweaver 1, now using Ultradev

Excellent stuff!

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 4:29pm

Originally posted by Cabaal
Downloading it now,
Just started, will be done in a hour
128K leased line rocks

Europe Online rocks more

2000K/Sec, but must wait for the queue now

I missed my download this morning so i've it requested again, it will arrive at 22:33pm tonight

Cabaal · 03-06-2002 5:15pm

Originally posted by donaloconnor
Europe Online rocks more 2000K/Sec, but must wait for the queue now I missed my download this morning so i've it requested again, it will arrive at 22:33pm tonight

Hay I'm doing the best I can with what I got and if I'm pushed I can get up 256K leased line

ah well, best I can do
Atleast I'll have MX before you, so what good is your 2000k/sec connection now

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 5:34pm

lol yeah, but i would like to see you download a cd iso :P , I could order the skybooster service and get 712Kb/s DSL satellite

Cabaal · 03-06-2002 5:41pm

Originally posted by donaloconnor
lol yeah, but i would like to see you download a cd iso :P , I could order the skybooster service and get 712Kb/s DSL satellite

Hay I download CD iso's all the time
Infact I usually que around 3 each weekend if there's anything I want

Either way beats 56K!

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 5:45pm

ok lol, but i certainly agree its away better than that crappy slow 56k thingy that i happen to be on now, Eircom have to spoil everything with prices

Spunog UIE · 03-06-2002 10:45pm

COME ON BETSY You can do it!!!

don't listen to them ppl's with their macho connections. GO ONNNNNNNNNNNNN.

GO ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

only a couple o hours left

*sniffles*

Gid.

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 10:46pm

Finally it came!, and I must say OH MY GOD! THIS IS MASSIVE, F**K frontpage lol. Its only the 30day trial i have but i'm going to download the internal build tomorrow

, a few lying around on the net so i can keep it :P

Winters · 03-06-2002 10:49pm

Originally posted by donaloconnor
Finally it came!, and I must say OH MY GOD! THIS IS MASSIVE, F**K frontpage lol. Its only the 30day trial i have but i'm going to download the internal build tomorrow , a few lying around on the net so i can keep it :P

Post us the link once you get one

peterd · 03-06-2002 10:52pm

Gideon, the screen shot is missing the loverly Eircom ad in top-right of the pic

. I think they're mocking us!

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 03-06-2002 10:58pm

I'm using Surf No Limits 56k.

I started d/l at about 12.30am friday night and woke up for the Irish Match at 7.30 am and it was finished. That wasnt bad going all things being equal for a 48mb file

Spunog UIE · 03-06-2002 11:28pm

Originally posted by peterd
Gideon, the screen shot is missing the loverly Eircom ad in top-right of the pic . I think they're mocking us!

ya i know but had to shave off the non essentials so as to save a few mins on dl

tis indigo too, ya i know they are all the same but i'll just let on they is some small select group of ppl's tryin to bring the corporation down from the inside...que the a-team music... hmmmmmmmmm sleep be good bout now.

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 11:29pm

Originally posted by Winters

Post us the link once you get one

Yep I will

Just hope that no mods will see it

I should get the links tomorrow, going to bed now, good night all

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 11:31pm

Originally posted by Gideon
COME ON BETSY You can do it!!!

don't listen to them ppl's with their macho connections. GO ONNNNNNNNNNNNN.

GO ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

only a couple o hours left

*sniffles*

Gid.

LOL!

Spunog UIE · 03-06-2002 11:34pm

ya ya, laugh it up, its not bad for betsy*

*humble, yet cool external 56k modem. achievin speeds v. few other modems can achieve in kildara

Spunog UIE · 03-06-2002 11:37pm

seriously tho, ain't getright brillo, looks nice and will disconnect for ya when she's done,then turn off the comp. Good for people who need sleep and such.

donaloconnor · 03-06-2002 11:43pm

I wasn't laughing how slow it was, i was laughing at what you posted.

She isn't that bad

I might get her for my small downloads, eon will do the big ones

Winters · 04-06-2002 11:27am

I think i fecked up my trial of DWMX. I was *playin* with the registory and changed the "Register" value in the DW key to 1. It has stayed on 30days remaining while my fireworks trial has gone down to 29days.... If it changes to 29days ill tell you.

Bard · 04-06-2002 11:50am

While Dreamweaver MX is, for a web developer, a true thing of beauty, unmatched in it's class, it's what Dreamweaver 4 SHOULD have been.

Nice one tho'

donaloconnor · 04-06-2002 12:09pm

I know, very easy to feck up things, this reg hack is ment to work, I don't know if it has worked for me, i'll see if my trial goes down to 28 days, hasn't yet anyway.

[can't show it anymore]

Copy into notepad and save as reghack.reg and run it.

Winters · 04-06-2002 12:14pm

He, He. I wonder if i can also feckup fireworks?

Bard · 04-06-2002 12:24pm

Originally posted by donaloconnor
I know, very easy to feck up things, this reg hack is ment to work, I don't know if it has worked for me, i'll see if my trial goes down to 28 days, hasn't yet anyway.

[snippity snip... bold stuff removed]

Copy into notepad and save as reghack.reg and run it.

That's bold, that is...

anyway- I tried it, out of curiosity - it f**ked up the Dreamweaver MX Trial and I have to uninstall/reinstall now.

Mods shouldnt allow people to post hacks and workarounds for trial software, tbh...

donaloconnor · 04-06-2002 12:33pm

oooops sorry, anyway it shouldn't feck up your trial, it didn't feck mine up or anyone elses.

PS. Bard maybe you could edit your post and delete the reg? before mods see it

Winters · 04-06-2002 12:35pm

You didnt have to give it a go. Its naughty to do it.

If id didnt verk for you dont blame donaloconnor

although posting a hack like that should it be allowed? humm i dont even know what i did to get mine verking, i just took a guess at changing the Register value...might not have verked though.

donaloconnor · 04-06-2002 12:39pm

well to be honest i dont think a registry file is bad, because its only a text file with all numbers in it that makes no since to most people on this board, i wouldn't call it warez

Winters · 04-06-2002 2:42pm

I discovered how i did it!

In your Dreamweaver MX dir theres a file called VSetupT.exe. Run it and it should put it back to 30days remaining

If it doesnt verk it is because i removed all the files it put on my HDD ( Program Files\Common Files\VBox ).

Humm. If anyone askes it wasent me

zAbbo · 04-06-2002 4:53pm

It`s people like you that mess the whole software development thing up.

Could you not have been happy with the 30 days trial version instead of looking for reg hacks on your first use.

You mentioned so many of Dreamweaver MX`s advancements and greatness, but seem quite happy to piss all over the respect for the Macromedia research and development.

How do you think they fund this?

I know that a license costs a lot, but you can buy student licenses or upgrades for a reduced rate.

Also the fact that you wanted to spread this untested hack around to everyone else doesn`t say much for your respect for boards.ie or its users.

I can understand that you wanted the full version for nothing, but you should have kept this to yourself.

Having used MX, i have great admiration for Macromedia, in that it has delivered what users wanted. I will use the trial version to decide weither i will purchase a license.