Celtic

manonthemoon

Can someone explain to me why i am expected to support Celtic, just because I'm Irish.

If you are you Irish (and Catholic - cant have any huns), you are expected to support some Scottish club in a piss poor league. Why? dont see the connection?

On another point. Shouldnt the old firm derbies be fixed later than 12.00

It really must be very awkward for all the supporters when Sunday Mass is usually on at this time.

I suppose they must catch the earlier services

ButcherOfNog

lol, true, and scottish football sucks

tHE vAGGABOND

the games are on early so the supporters dont have a chance to drink that much b4 them to be honest..

Celtic was founded by an Irish Monk in the east part of Glasgow in 1888 to give the irish ppl something to do, somehting to be a part of..

http://www.celticfc.net/ifyouknow/history.htm

No one is forcing you to support Celtic. Lots of Irish people support Celtic, and lots Scotish Celtic supporters support Ireland. At the same time lots of Irish ppl support Man U or Liverpool etc

Support who you want.

DerekD Goldfish

It does seam strange to get slaged and beaten up for not being nationalistic enough to support a scottish team in an english sport.

TwoShedsJackson

Fu<king hell, here we go again - PAGING WHITEWASHMAN TO THIS THREAD, WHITEWASHMAN TO THIS THREAD STAT!!!

bugler

No-one is forcing you indeed. I have plenty of mates, and can't really say any of them are huge Celtic fans, more like they'd cheer them on if they caugh the match on tv. Why should they prefer them to Rangers? I dunno, the whole anti-Catholic signing policy of Rangers which was around until recently doesn't reflect well on the club, aswell as the aforementioned Irish links. And Derek D, I don't know where you live, but presumably if you're getting beaten up for not supporting Celtic you're in glasgow. Or else you live on a nacker estate here, where not supporting Celtic is just an excuse. That or you have a punchable looking head.

manonthemoon

So why dont the mongos (Oops sorry - Celtic supporters) support Hibernians. Their history is just as Irish as Celtic

Would it be acceptable to wear a Hibs jersey at an Ireland game?

tHE vAGGABOND

yea, nothing wrong with hibs..

Bateman

In fairness, Hibs call their ground Easter Park after the rising.
Celtic have many, many fans, who are active republicans, there is a definite link, fair enough. however, the barinless Brits Out Brigade who have no connection to Republicanism are sad bastards indeed, they think that by knowing the chorus of the Fields of Athenry and wearing a Celtic shirt that they are tru Republicans. Supporting English clubs is blatantly supporting a foreign team, and their fans dont have any pretence to be supporting an "Irish team based in Scotland" or some such bull****.

Pigman

I'm Irish and I follow football and don't support Celtic. Despite the fact that I don't really consider them Irish their supports are bigots and I wouldn't want to have anything to do with such people.

Blitzkrieger

It's a 'thing' that makes you 'Irish'. In any social group there's always a common ground, something shared that becomes part of your identity. Every guy I know supports Celtic and some Premiership team. Nobody says you have to give a rat's ass about Celtic - just buy a shirt every few years

Of course there's an anti-hun, anti-prodestant, anti-english side to it, but nobody I know really gives a toss. We all shout out IRA while singing the Fields of Athenry, but none of us is going to go out and actually join the IRA. It's simply a part of our culture to sing these songs. It's something we do together; like supporting (hypocritically) the British Lions.

And sure - what's wrong with Celtic? Martin O' Neil's doing a great job and you rarely see them play with less then their whole heart.

ReefBreak

I don't support Celtic. But I'm not bothered by Irish people following Celtic any more than I'd be bothered by them supporting any other British club. But what pisses me off is when Irish people use their Celtic-supporting credentials to prove their Irishness, yet don't know anything about Irish sports (be it hurling, rugby, soccer, whatever). Granted - this is not the case with all Irish Celtic fans, but there are a few (in Dublin particularly). Plus, I'll never support Celtic while that whole republican thing exists under the surface (pro-IRA chanting). It's sickening.

manonthemoon

Blitzkrieger

"Of course there's an anti-hun, anti-prodestant, anti-english side to it, but nobody I know really gives a toss. We all shout out IRA while singing the Fields of Athenry, but none of us is going to go out and actually join the IRA. It's simply a part of our culture to sing these songs. It's something we do together"

Ah sure tis all great craic.

And all de boyis were having a laugh.

**** the huns, PPOP, Prod bastards, Up the Ra, C'mon Cetic.
Oh Ah up the Ra. F***** hun C***s.

Ah sher tis great craic. Me with all the lads and there were couple of english lads.

Tan Bastards. He's a Prod. bastard


A but sher its great craic.











Hey Blitzkrieger,
Next time you are watching Celtic with the boyes, give me a bell. Sounds great. Afterall,

"It's something we do together"

Bateman

Yeah Blitzkrieg's attitude sums it up really. Anti-Protestantism is not something thats in my culture, that my mates and I do together, half of the pish of your argument is that you think its normal to support a team in such a pathetic way. If it wasn't so genuinely damaging to Irish sports, it would even be funny.
But sure its great craic, buy the jersey every few years and probably walk down the road wearing it until someone asks you " Did you see Agathe's goal today", to which you stare blankly.

bugler

It isn't fair to tar all Celtic supporters with the same brush, and the same applies to Rangers fans.

I get the distinct feeling that a few people who have posted here get the feeling that Pro-IRA chants and so on are to be heard clearly in Celtic park, when the opposite is true. The club has cracked down hard on that sort of behaviour, and lately it has been the away games that has featured that sort of behaviour. To be fair, the club has tried to rid itself of sectarianism, and if some of the fans don't attempt to do the same to themselves, it's their problem, and the club shouldn't be criticised for it.

I don't like the mock-republican sympathies exuded by many 'fans' either, and I certainly do not chant 'IRA' under any circumstances. Neither do I like people who start blathering on about how they don't support celtic and they're irish. What do you want? A medal? The funny thing is they're absolutely no different to the people they're whining about. Each man to his own, and stop rubbishing other peoples interests.

bucks73

Bugler, I agree with you. I would love to know how many of the posters here have actually been to games in England or Scotland not to mind Celtic Park.

As is in a lot of grounds in the UK you have you small minority of bigots, racists or fascists. Thousands of Irish travel over every week and would not even dream of singing any pro-IRA songs. Admittedly there are those who do and there are those who believe in it.

Personally I couldnt give a p1ss about the IRA but to to be told be some idiot that its wrong for me to support Celtic because I am Irish and a few supporters sing republican songs is absolute crap.

Bateman

>I don't like the mock-republican sympathies exuded by many 'fans' either

I don't know about anyone else but the point I was making was that there are actually active republicans who support Celtic and did so when they were ****e and didn't sell shirts by the moxyload in Dublin and other places. The PLC has cracked down on IRISH songs, sectarian songs is another issue. For every active republican supporting Celtic, however, there are 200 plastic paddies, who follow because of success and perceived Irishness. Its these that give Celtic fans a bad name. If they just got on with supporting their team instead of indulging the "Irish" and "up the RA" crap, they would have a better reputation.

manonthemoon

bugler & Bucks73,

The two above reckon that its is only "some Celtic fans" who chant pro-RA songs.

C'mon fellas who are ye trying to kid?

have ye ever been in a pub after a Celtic match, Wolfe Tones blaring

"Oh Ah up the Ra".

But only a small minority sing that bit, Oh no, us real supporters never would chant such things.

umdie

Nobody wants you as a Celtic supporter anyway you stupid fu<k
Just because you are a Celtic supporter doesn't mean you are a devout catholic. Football is football and you support whoever your club is and not the league.

Blitzkrieger

Originally posted by Bateman
Yeah Blitzkrieg's attitude sums it up really.

You have to use the -er people BlitzKrieg is another user.

I probably expressed myself badly. I didn't convey the sense of shared community - or that the negative aspects are much less than heart-felt. Hmmm - that's still not phrased right.

I'm sort of half-way between a hardcore Celtic fan and somebody who just buys the jersey to fit in. My interest in soccer ebbs and flows and when it's at a high point I watch 5-6 matches a week, supporting United and Celtic. At a low point I'd watch a match a fornight and wouldn't have a clue how Celtic are getting on. It's something that's pretty common.

Irvine Welsh says 'you can always tell the guys who aren't getting any by their interest in the fitba'.

Originally posted by Bateman
If it wasn't so genuinely damaging to Irish sports

I have no interest in Irish sports (apart from rugby) and that sort of attitude is what manonthemoon is arguing against.


And turn down the sarcasm manonthemoon It's the difference between hitting Bill Gates with a custard pie and taking a chainsaw to him.

manonthemoon

Sarcometer on FULL POWER

Umbie quotes
"Nobody wants you as a Celtic supporter anyway you stupid fu<k
Just because you are a Celtic supporter doesn't mean you are a devout catholic. Football is football and you support whoever your club is and not the league."

Let me clear my throat - Cough!

Point 1 - I have been approached by numerous Celtic Supporters clubs, and Celtic Football club to join as a supporter. I have been offered cash incentives, cars, jewellery, women and the complete Wolfe Tones back catalogue. As of yet, I have declined

Point 2 - "Just because you are a Celtic supporter doesn't mean you are a devout catholic."

No ****

Point 3 - Rangers for the Cup

bugler

Like I say, I can't answer for the majority of Celtic fans. I've been in many pubs after games, and have sat with many Celtic fans where there was no chanting of anything relating to the IRA. If you brush the chip off your shoulder and take deep breaths next time you see some Celtic fans, who presumably are demanding that because you're Irish you should put on a hooped jersey, you might find that your anal fixation passes.

ayatollah

okay back to the question asked.......

you are not expected to support celtic just beause you are irish - it just so happen's that there are strong links between ireland and Glasgow celtic football club

you are free to support any club / team / organisation you wish...

and i would like to know who it is exactly that expects you to support Cetic???

manonthemoon

Ah, I'm bored now

Bateman

watch 5-6 matches a week,

I assume that Blitzkrieg<er> (got it this time) means he watches 5-6 football matches on TV per week. Anyway, for reasons probably best known to himself he seems to equate his time spent watching football (on TV of course) to "how much he is getting".

BTW Irvine Welsh has a Hibs season ticket but rarely uses it. Funny that.

Blitzkrieger

actually that was a joke..........and a hint at 'there's more to life than football'.

Bateman

>'there's more to life than football'.

That phrase has always been lost on me. The only time there is more to life than football is after the game is over. For around a day or two after your team has lost. And youv'e been at the game.

bucks73

My sentiments exactly.

ayatollah

hell yeah eat , drink and sleep football!!!!!!

Blitzkrieger

Put it this way - if you had the choice of playing a game of soccer or having a shag - which would you choose?

dicey_reilly

k fellas im a gurl

and a devout celtic fan

but thats d way iv bn raised

and i think u lot are a pack of plonkers actin like this!!

"oh boo celtic fans for the way dey act"
"boo cos they r anti-british protestant etc"

u really sound pathetic""!!!!!
i bet u all r goin out shoutn and roarn at d celtic games and fn and blindin bout d english d ira etc!!!

ur all 2faced and losers !!!