Are Liverpool the most boring team in the Premiership??

Bottle_of_Smoke · 13-01-2002 6:15pm #1

Ok all in all a decent result away to Arsenal, but really the defensiveness of it all is depressing. Is it the fact the club don't have any wingers or just taking the easy way out?

What happened to Barmby??

dobdobdo · 13-01-2002 6:54pm

9 Points clear at the top of the league in November and they were PROBABLYthe most boring team in the premiership, Thompson wins the manager of the month. They beat Man U 3-1 and they think the've won the league? But then again they are PROBABLY still the most boring team in the premiership? Who sponsors them?
re Nick Barmby, Good question.

PiE · 13-01-2002 7:07pm

I think Barmby's injured, not sure.

A$$A$$IN · 13-01-2002 7:40pm

Liverpool have thrown it away!Thompsonj needs to get lost and let Houllier do his job.I think the pressure has got to him.Plus Anelka WTF!

Liverpool suck without Owen.

Bounty Hunter · 13-01-2002 8:05pm

no liverpool are not the most boring team aston villa whom i support(why i cant remember)are.
TBH liverpool are not even proper competition to villa as the no.1 boring team in england.

mike65 · 13-01-2002 11:17pm

Fulham are the most boring team in the Premiership, followed by Villa. As for Liverpools problems as I said in a different thread
the Reds have no width and desperatly need someone like
Trevor Sinclair, is £10 million too much?

Mike

Chucky · 14-01-2002 8:41am

Im sick of people like ye who claim a teams season is 'over' because they go through a bad patch. They were saying it about united at the start. - And remember arsenal 3 years ago?!

Im an Everton supporter but give liverpool a chance.

And they are not boring! They play attractive passing football, but perhaps lack the intelligence at times to create chances.

WhiteWashMan · 14-01-2002 8:49am

theu should have kept ziege.
as for getting hoiulier back, the man is recovering form a bloody heart attack.
im quiet sure at the moment he feels thats more important to him than a bunch of over paid lads running around a park after a ball.
try and put it in perspective for gods sake.
im sure he will be back when hes good and proper.

and no, i dont think liverpool are the most boring team in the premiership. i think all the teams in the middle of the league are. ie, spurs, charlton, villa, sunderland etc.
we are all equally useless

Xterminator · 14-01-2002 8:57am

The worst team to watch this season have been Everton.

The were so bad it was shocking. You wouldnt think they were pro's. One word surmises there approach.

Inept

Now they have Campbell and Ferguson back to fitness they might be a different prospect, but no wonder the fans are going mad.

Where is all the money? Where are the talented youngsters?

nore · 14-01-2002 9:14am

Trevor Sinclair? He's had a career with QPR and West Ham. He's never played for England. He's now 28. And he's suddenly worthy of £10 million bids from Liverpool? I dunno.
But I agree that Liverpool have no width. They have noone who can run with the ball. It makes such a difference in terms of allowing a team to get forward. United have Giggs, Arsenal Pires and Leeds Kewell. Liverpool did have McManaman and they should get him back.

Chucky · 14-01-2002 10:12am

>> The worst team to watch this season have been Everton.

I must admit they look worse than a Division 3 club at times but they are very direct and have great determination - thats what keeps us up!

Washout · 16-01-2002 2:56pm

Everton have been quite boring for the past number of seasons.
this season alone i think we went like 5 matches without even scoring a goal.

you cant buy exciting players with very little money and to be fair to Walter Smith as a manager he is a good manager and has done well with little resources.

Im an everton fan and I cant even stand watching them on TV they are so boring.

Hopefully if we can get Bobby Zamora though it may change things but then again scoring goals in the second division is probably alot easier than scoring in the premiership but if we were playing in the second division then we would probably be struggling there too at the moment.

Chucky · 16-01-2002 6:33pm

too right - Everton and walter smith have done really well despite what goes on behind the scenes.

THere's talk of a new stadium..?? - but I heard last year they are E25m in dept!!!

The players they have bought over the years have been excellent quality. Bakayoko, Dacourt, Materazzi - all gone on to massive clubs! The scouts at everton must be among the best......pity the financial situation isnt

Bottle_of_Smoke · 16-01-2002 10:56pm

That Bakayoko was such a player in championship manager 97\98

Chucky · 18-01-2002 12:17pm

dont i know it! ....but I think theres a Champo Manager forum somewhere. :P

leeroybrown · 20-01-2002 2:09am

As I see it, Liverpools problem is that they aren't inventive enough. Apart from the obvious lack of width, there is a distinct lack of guile/craft in the starting eleven.

The defence are still very good, but theres no point limiting teams to knocking one really good goal past you if you aren't creating chances yourself. I've always thought, and my opinion hasn't changed, that Jari Litmanen should be accomodated in the team because he introduces that fluidity and good link-up play to the midfield and attack.

Owen will always score goals, and even a local junior league team would score against a good defence with him in their side but liverpool are over reliant on his ability to save their asses. Heskey has only scored 1 in the last 30 he has played but he is still played up front.

Of course people call liverpool boring because they have resorted to poor quality long ball football without the kind of intelligent passing that a team needs to create chances, especially one ith no real wingplay.

Chucky · 21-01-2002 8:45am

I dont think they should have sold Fowler. But that goes a long way back. They should never have even dropped him from the team all those months back! Heskey is just like a big pile of s**t! - he does nothing but be there to roughen things up in the game.

And yeh I think Jari LItmanen should be in the first team for every game.

Washout · 21-01-2002 9:08am

Emile Hesky is a waste of space for liverpool.....but definetly after the draw on saturday Phil Thompson has lost the plot as manager.

yop · 21-01-2002 9:46am

Ooopsss ye did it again...... When is someone goin to change yer team!!! Once again my point is proven that the only scorer you have is owen!! Ye are now in danger of not even getting a top 4 spot!!!! Gwan the Saints!!!

cournioni · 21-01-2002 7:46pm

Yes. Why? Cos theyre ****.

Manchester United will ALWAYS be superior.

Mossin · 21-01-2002 8:21pm

Manchester United will ALWAYS be superior

This is so true!!!
No matter wot u say they will always come out on top.
CRISIS in Old Trafford was all the rage about 5 weeks ago with LIVERPOOL (most definately the most boring team) on top. Now look at them. A one man team they are and a pathetic team without him.

Jari LItmanen should be in the first team for every game

This is also true. He is the only one of them with good European experience. OK Anelka might have won the European Cup but is he mentally alright??

Back to Liverpool being boring. Litmanen can provide the spark they need but doesn't play enough. Maybe with a fully fit squad they might not be as boring.!!! MAYBE!!!!

Chucky · 22-01-2002 9:35am

Ye are so wrong. The trend (as I see it) is that all the teams 'lesser' than Man UTD are actually getting better. There is only so far Man UTD can go. Once they reach their potential what then? they either drop, or stay - while all the other teams catch up. Its a common trend in the life cycle of a soccer club.

Washout · 22-01-2002 10:01am

I think alot of teams are going through that kind of "Golden Patch" period. Leeds have, Liverpool have and Man Utd are currently in one at the moment.

The one team to be showing more consistancy of results than any other team seems to me to be Arsenal.

I do think Arsenal will win the league this year. and gosh wouldnt it be great if Liverpool didnt even make it into the top 4. The way they play these days I dont think i could stand seeing them play in the champions league for another season.

Headcase · 23-01-2002 4:17pm

Maybethe most boring, but strong contenders!!!

how can a with such quality just keep kicking the long ball and hope that Micheal Owen will do something with it. last time i checked, u were allowed 11 players on a team!

yop · 23-01-2002 4:58pm

still boring

Washout · 23-01-2002 5:38pm

since when are liverpool playing long ball football..

.they are still trying the passing game but they havent got the quality in midfield to do that i mean berger and gerrard are both great players but they are runners when they have the ball..and carrighar ...never liked him. Hamman is doing ok as well this season i think...i like dieter hamman

Chucky · 23-01-2002 5:44pm

I like pissing people off:

Its not "carrighar".....its Carragher

"i like dieter hamman" Nooooooooo you like Dietmar Hamman!!

BlackMagic · 27-01-2002 1:47pm

of course!!!!!!

need i say more:cool:

Dustaz · 27-01-2002 1:56pm

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Yes. Why? Cos theyre ****.

Manchester United will ALWAYS be superior.

Pity they didnt listen to your tactical genius against Middlesborough then

Bard · 27-01-2002 2:21pm

Originally posted by Dustaz

Pity they didnt listen to your tactical genius against Middlesborough then

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... or Liverpool for that matter.... heh...

Washout · 27-01-2002 11:12pm

Gosh Liverpooool were so boring today against Arsenal...even Ian Wright said it.

Hesky looks like a headless chicken running around the pitch...when Jari came on he added a bit more style...but Liverpool dont seem to have any ideas on how to break down a defence...Arsenal were absolutely superb in attack.

yop · 28-01-2002 8:53am

Washout ,, good post, they were terrible, played the same against us on Tuesday nite, but diffference is we did not score, if we scored first then no way would they have been able to come back.

Heskey is useless, akward and defo cannot score.

As for Carrigehire or what ever his name is, the lad could get a few months for throwing the coin yet.

TwoShedsJackson · 28-01-2002 9:36am

Heskey should be dropped immediately - he's been playing absolutely $hite for almost the entire season, yesterday he was truly pathetic.

As for Carragher throwing the coin back into the crowd, it's understandable that he did it, but he could have hit some oul wan or kid and then be up for assault.

Anyway if you look at the replay, as the ref shows him the red card you can see that or another coin passing his left shoulder

WhiteWashMan · 28-01-2002 2:33pm

Originally posted by yop
Ooopsss ye did it again...... When is someone goin to change yer team!!! Once again my point is proven that the only scorer you have is owen

apart from danny murphy eh?

WhiteWashMan · 28-01-2002 2:36pm

Originally posted by yop
but diffference is we did not score, if we scored first then no way would they have been able to come back.

thats the point.
you didnt score did you?

mind you i suppose the ref cheated didnt he, coz utd cant possibly lose a fair game of football.
nice to see you out of two cups this seaason. hopefully you will be dumped out of champions league soon enough as well.

yop · 28-01-2002 3:16pm

WWM

do u fancy me or something cause I am getting the era feeling u is a batty boy.

apart from danny murphy eh?

http://www.4thegame.com/stats/lfc/scorers

Have a look at this, it will prove my point and stop been a gimp.

BTW, You are waffling again. Yes we did not score. I stated that already.
Point, look through scoursers season and find me who many times did they come back when they were behind????

U must be a genius, 2 cups, hip hip hora, the gimp has landed.

Now fuc off a moderate some kids site, cause you do not have the brain power to discuss football.

WhiteWashMan · 28-01-2002 3:36pm

Originally posted by yop
WWM

do u fancy me or something cause I am getting the era feeling u is a batty boy.

and why do you get that feeling mop?

Originally posted by yop

http://www.4thegame.com/stats/lfc/scorers
.

sorry, what was the point of this?

Originally posted by yop
Have a look at this, it will prove my point and stop been a gimp.

.

sorry, im still missing the point?

Originally posted by yop
BTW, You are waffling again. Yes we did not score. I stated that already..

ohh am i? as for the scousers coming back after being behind, i think you'll find the rule states somewhere that the team with the most goals wins the game.
who cares about ifs and buts, and whats if etc. the fact is you lost, plain and squarely and you cant even admit that the played the better game. let me guess, the tea leaves fell unkindly and the meant utd couldnt win?
bad loser.

Originally posted by yop

U must be a genius, 2 cups, hip hip hora, the gimp has landed.

im sure you have a point here as well, but im unable to find it im afraid.....
as for being a genius, who knows, but at least i have mind of my own i can use and dont have to follow the rest of the flock like you....

Originally posted by yop

Now fuc off a moderate some kids site, cause you do not have the brain power to discuss football.

a man utd supporter talking about brains..
hahaha, you should have posted that on the humour site.
now if you cant discuss footbal like an adult and stop lowering yourself to silly personal attacks i think i should take you to a few kiddie sites.

or will the poor little baby get his mumsy wumsy on line to tell me not to be so naughty waughty to her little boysy wosey?

Bard · 28-01-2002 3:55pm

WWMan, I think his point, however badly and rudely put, was that Liverpools only really prolific and reliable goal scorer is... of course... Michael Owen.

yop · 28-01-2002 3:57pm

God this is getting boring, I do not even why I am doing this, but then again I am getting a good laugh out of u

the number on the link, is for all the other people to see the point u made was very poor, obviously I would not expect u to be able to count over 2

As for rules.....what are u waffling again.

At the end of the day, we are top of the table. If we are not top of the table at the end of the season, such is life, if we are then we are once again champions. That is the way the league works. twat

im sure you have a point here as well, but im unable to find it im afraid.....

Now why does this not suprise me

silly personal attacks

Thats right.... give up u are losing

yop · 28-01-2002 3:59pm

thanks Bard,

Liverpool have a problem with goals, that is what I was showing, just as we have a problem with the gimps we have in central defence.

FINALLLY someone who can discuss and not rant

Bard · 28-01-2002 4:02pm

Originally posted by yop

FINALLLY someone who can discuss and not rant

Yes, I can... and if you stopped being blatantly ignorant and firing utterly piss-poor insults at WhiteWashMan instead of actually debating the issue properly then maybe you could too.

WhiteWashMan · 28-01-2002 4:02pm

Originally posted by yop
thanks Bard,

Liverpool have a problem with goals,

except when they score against man utd, in which case the ref was probably bribed and his family threatened.
after all, utd couldnt have lost any other way...

gandalf · 28-01-2002 4:05pm

Again as in the last thread yop (especially) & wwman give up the personal insults or I will delete this thread.

Gandalf.

WhiteWashMan · 28-01-2002 4:06pm

Originally posted by gandalf
Again as in the last thread yop (especially) & wwman give up the personal insults or I will delete this thread.

Gandalf.

lol

damn, work is over and i have to go home.
i was getting a blast out of that.

yop · 28-01-2002 4:11pm

School is over WWW is off, knew it..

Yes, I can... and if you stopped being blatantly ignorant and firing utterly piss-poor insults at WhiteWashMan instead of actually debating the issue properly then maybe you could too.

Not been ignorant, listen I am hear to debate, well actually to work but we will not go into that!!!

except when they score against man utd, in which case the ref was probably bribed and his family threatened.

What!!!! what is your point.

Bard · 28-01-2002 4:16pm

Not been ignorant,

Yes, you have.

listen I am hear to debate

Then perhaps you should start debating and stop insulting, name-calling and ignoring others opinions.

--

time for one of these methinks...

gandalf · 28-01-2002 4:17pm

Don't tell me how to do my job tart

Gandalf.

yop · 28-01-2002 4:24pm

give me an opinion I ignored??

Are Liverpool the most boring team in the Premiership??

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