Sky+ now €69

JohnC.

I saw a display in a shop window today saying so, but didn't have time to get further information. The Sky site doesn't seem to be updated with this yet, as that is still saying €149

kaizersoze

The price in the UK has dropped £49 on the Sky site so €69 is probably right.

chorus techy

If you ring 0818 719 822 then you can get sky+ for €69 with free installation (if you're a brand new customer) or €69 if you get sky+ with multiroom (if you're an existing customer). Otherwise its €149. This offer has been going for the past month and was due to end last Monday, but surprise, surprise they extended it! Was thinking of going for it myself only I don't want to risk being landed with a bloody amstrad box! :mad:

bigpaddy2004

No amstrad box's being used, only pace.

legend99

BigPaddy...you know anything more about the mirror sub being dropped to 5.99 a month???

Borderfox

C**c I got it last Friday and payed €149 :eek:

bigpaddy2004

legend99 wrote:

BigPaddy...you know anything more about the mirror sub being dropped to 5.99 a month???

I will know for definate by next week, but it is going to happen

Doodah7

Just to ask, how much is Sky+ now per month for someone (like me) just on the Family Pack?

€6 pm for multiroom is VERY tempting...

kaizersoze

tallpaul wrote:

Just to ask, how much is Sky+ now per month for someone (like me) just on the Family Pack?

€6 pm for multiroom is VERY tempting...

€15p/m

bigpaddy2004

tallpaul wrote:

Just to ask, how much is Sky+ now per month for someone (like me) just on the Family Pack?

€6 pm for multiroom is VERY tempting...

€30.50 for the family pack and then €15 per month for your recording, if you wish to have it =€45.50

chorus techy

bigpaddy2004 wrote:

No amstrad box's being used, only pace.

No Amstrad's in Ireland?! Grand so, was worried I'd be landed with a ticker, as most of the UK seems to have been. I might give them a ring so, and if the mirror sub is dropping to €5.99 per month, then even better

bigpaddy2004

chorus techy wrote:

No Amstrad's in Ireland?! Grand so, was worried I'd be landed with a ticker, as most of the UK seems to have been. I might give them a ring so, and if the mirror sub is dropping to €5.99 per month, then even better

Dont order it until you hear about the price drop first from sky otherwise you will have to pay €15 pm for your subbed card until your contract has reached its 13th month.

chorus techy

bigpaddy2004 wrote:

Dont order it until you hear about the price drop first from sky otherwise you will have to pay €15 pm for your subbed card until your contract has reached its 13th month.

You're not serious?! Jesus, they'll rob for all you're worth - talk about customer loyalty!

Flukey

€69 is €69 too much. I have more sense than to be ripped off by Sky. Stop paying them and they may get the message.

bigpaddy2004

Flukey wrote:

€69 is €69 too much. I have more sense than to be ripped off by Sky. Stop paying them and they may get the message.

It's alot cheaper than it used to be in fairness, mirrored card price dropping and all...even I think its cheap and I would be a terrible critic of them.:D

legend99

so if the mirror sub does come down to 5.99 a month you could have
Sky+ with Multiroom

6 entertainment mixes, 30.50 a month
get 2 Sky sports premium channels instead of paying for Sky+ by itself.Add 23.50
Mirror sub 5.99.

So for 60 quid a month you could have Sky+, mirror sub and 4 Premium sports channels. Thats not bad I have to say in my opinion.

No, next question. The 5.99 a month...will that be announced before the 69 upgrade sale price offer ends on Nov 30....and can you get the 69 euro offer price to upgrade to Sky+ Multiroom from local installer...i prefer giving my business to a local guy to be honest.

Flukey

It is cheaper, but it is still too much. Sky have been ripping people off for years. You may celebrate that they are ripping you off by less, but they are still ripping you off. If they were offering it for €0.01, they'd still be ripping you off. Being ripped off, no matter by how much, is nothing to celebrate. It's less that €149, but it is €69 more to add to all the other money they've ripped people off of.

It's like people saying they smoke less. They tell you "I used to smoke 40 a day, but now I only smoke 10." Well that is 10 more each day on top of the total they have smoked, so they are not cutting down, but adding more. So this €69 is less than before but it is another €69 on top of everything else upt to this. When they start returning the millions upon millions that they have ripped people off of, then go out and buy a bottle of champagne!

You get the "If you ring 0818 719 822 then you can get sky+ for €69 with free installation" If you are paying €69 then it is not free. It is like a car salesman telling you that if you give him €40,000 he'll give you a new car for free! Cop on people!

bigpaddy2004

Legend99 I do not have the anwers to your last question(s) as i do not know as of yet. I do know that I will have all the info next week, but it will not be official to the public.

Flukey, you seem to misunderstand Sky's tactic's. Installation is free, all you pay for is the equipment costs, i.e. box and quad lnb.

LegacyUser

I don't particularly want to upgrade to Sky+, so just wondering, how much is it to get multiroom installed on a normal €30.50 p.m. subscription?

Do both boxes or just the mirror box have to be connected to a phone line? Basically, can i still use the FTV card on the box that's not plugged into the phone line, or will it be detected by Sky?

jaggiebunnet

Flukey wrote:

It is cheaper, but it is still too much. Sky have been ripping people off for years. You may celebrate that they are ripping you off by less, but they are still ripping you off. If they were offering it for €0.01, they'd still be ripping you off. Being ripped off, no matter by how much, is nothing to celebrate. It's less that €149, but it is €69 more to add to all the other money they've ripped people off of.

It's like people saying they smoke less. They tell you "I used to smoke 40 a day, but now I only smoke 10." Well that is 10 more each day on top of the total they have smoked, so they are not cutting down, but adding more. So this €69 is less than before but it is another €69 on top of everything else upt to this. When they start returning the millions upon millions that they have ripped people off of, then go out and buy a bottle of champagne!

You get the "If you ring 0818 719 822 then you can get sky+ for €69 with free installation" If you are paying €69 then it is not free. It is like a car salesman telling you that if you give him €40,000 he'll give you a new car for free! Cop on people!

Where do sky say they will give it to you for free? and why should they? why is that being ripped off? the cheapest hard drive recorder that could do a similar job to sky + without being as good at it is 300 euro so why is 69 euro a rip off?

Mossy Monk

Flukey wrote:

It is cheaper, but it is still too much. Sky have been ripping people off for years. You may celebrate that they are ripping you off by less, but they are still ripping you off. If they were offering it for €0.01, they'd still be ripping you off. Being ripped off, no matter by how much, is nothing to celebrate. It's less that €149, but it is €69 more to add to all the other money they've ripped people off of.

It's like people saying they smoke less. They tell you "I used to smoke 40 a day, but now I only smoke 10." Well that is 10 more each day on top of the total they have smoked, so they are not cutting down, but adding more. So this €69 is less than before but it is another €69 on top of everything else upt to this. When they start returning the millions upon millions that they have ripped people off of, then go out and buy a bottle of champagne!

You get the "If you ring 0818 719 822 then you can get sky+ for €69 with free installation" If you are paying €69 then it is not free. It is like a car salesman telling you that if you give him €40,000 he'll give you a new car for free! Cop on people!

ooooh, a misinformed rant

the installation is free, the box and lnb is €69

Tony

On sky's non sky + service you get the box free and you get it installed free, wheres the rip off? Flukey you need to check the facts before launcing into "rant" mode. I'm not a fan of sky as an organisation but lots of readers here rely on this forum for accurate information so lets stick to the facts.

Brando_ie

I have a fairly tasty hdd dvd recorder and was going to get vanilla sky to basically have the same kinda features of sky+ (I do know that the sky plus can record 2 shows at the same time but what the hey!!). If I was to get sky+ does anyone know if it would work with the recorder? My main issues would be 1- can you bypass the sky+ and record a show currently playing direct to the hdd or dvd or are there any encryption issues?. and 2- can you 'play' a sky+ recorded show and record it to the hdd dvd recorder at the same time for archival?. Actually this post may be a bit off topic. mods feel free to ditch it if so and i'll post fresh later.

kaizersoze

Buckfast wrote:

Do both boxes or just the mirror box have to be connected to a phone line? Basically, can i still use the FTV card on the box that's not plugged into the phone line, or will it be detected by Sky?

Yes

IMHO €60 is way too much to pay for any television service and I wouldn't pay it or anything near it.
I would rather pay €300 for a harddisc recorder than pay Sky for Sky+. It's harking back to the old days when people rented their VCR from the local electrical shop knowing it was dead money. The only difference now is they give you the equipment but charge you to use it.
Were too eager to fall for the hype and advertising and part with our hard earned cash to line someone elses pockets.
Just my 2 cents. Sorry for the rant.:)

Flukey

Buy a steering wheel for €40,000 and we'll give you a free car with it!
Buy a bedroom for €600,000 and get a free house with it!
Was €149, now €69 with free installation.
They sound like great deals, don't they?

Come on, it is standard marketing practice. All sorts of companies do the same kind of thing. But whatever it is, you still have to pay something. On the "buy one, get one free" type of promotion, you can never just take one and get it for free. You always have to pay something. They never lose.

It's the same with the first issue of a series of magazines when the first one is cheaper than all the other issues. It's just to try and make it look like a good deal and drag more customers in. Once they buy the first issue, they feel like they have to buy the rest. The people doing it are not going to work for nothing. Their wages and the production costs come from somewhere, from what the customers pay. They are not losing out. It's all worked into their marketing plan and costings for the product.

They can well afford to drop their prices and add a bit of marketing spin to attract more customers. Rather than them showing their goodwill it actually proves they could do things cheaper. They are entitled to make profits of course. Even with the lower price, they'd still come out with huge profits. If it was €149 and is now €69 they've been ripping you off to such an extent that they can dramatically reduce the price to make it seem like people are getting a good deal. Of course some have already paid the €149. Rupert Murdoch is laughing all the way to the bank! Sky is not a charity! That's a fact. So my last post and this are no rants, just reality.

Mossy Monk

oh no, are you telling me that Sky want to make money?

your point is still invalid as the sky+ box is heavily subsidised. €69 for a Sky+ box with lnb and installation is a great price imo

Tony

kaizersoze wrote:

Yes

IMHO €60 is way too much to pay for any television service and I wouldn't pay it or anything near it.
I would rather pay €300 for a harddisc recorder than pay Sky for Sky+. It's harking back to the old days when people rented their VCR from the local electrical shop knowing it was dead money. The only difference now is they give you the equipment but charge you to use it.
Were too eager to fall for the hype and advertising and part with our hard earned cash to line someone elses pockets.
Just my 2 cents. Sorry for the rant.:)

Sounds like a reasonable arguement to me rather than a rant

Tony

Flukey wrote:

Buy a steering wheel for €40,000 and we'll give you a free car with it!
Buy a bedroom for €600,000 and get a free house with it!
Was €149, now €69 with free installation.
They sound like great deals, don't they?

No they sound like ridiculous examples that have no basis in reality with the exception of the last one. It is up to the consumer to decide what is a good deal and what is a bad one. Nobody is forced to take up any particular offer, its a choice.

Flukey

Ok then, let's go along with this line that the installation is free. Right, so all week these technicians have been going round and installing them. Come payday then, they will get no wages whatsoever and be happy with it, because a few weeks ago they all willingly agreed to work for absolutely nothing for a few weeks, because installation was to be free. Get real folks. They'll get their wages in full for this week and in fact may even get a few bonuses because of the larger volume they'll have installed due to demand. That money is coming out of what the customers have paid this week and in their previous payments over the years. The installation is not free.

Sky, as they have to do, are making their profits, and at the expense of anyone who mistakenly thinks they are getting a good deal. Just because you are willing to be ripped off, don't take it out on the few of us that are pointing out the realities, and call our posts rants. The installation is not free or at some wonderful rate. It's a marketing ploy. All companies do it. With some, you are actually getting some sort of value, so it's worth doing, but Sky is a rip-off from start to finish.

I wouldn't give Rupert Murdoch a single cent. The TV is paid for, the license is, and last night I sat down and watched the Man Utd. match and didn't have to pay some additional charge to Rupert Murdoch for the pleasure. Some people are prepared to do that kind of thing every week. I may not see them live, but I can sit down at the weekend and see Premiership match highlights and all the goals without having to pay anything extra. That some people are prepared to pay Rupert Murdoch to do almost the exact same thing, just doesn't make sense. Luckily I have some sense and I'll continue to enjoy TV soccer at no extra charge.

Tony

So you dont have a Tv licience then ? Of course you do and you have paid good money for it, your choice whether to have Tv or not in the same way as Sky customers choose to have sky. Installers do not get bonuses for volume installs they get paid by sky as you well know. The installation is free for the customer on the basis that they take out a contract and connect to a phoneline for 12 months, if they choose not to they can pay for the install and the dish and box (currently around €200) The market decides between good and bad value , are you suggesting that you are the only one who knows what is going on?

Flukey wrote:

Ok then, let's go along with this line that the installation is free. Right, so all week these technicians have been going round and installing them. Come payday then, they will get no wages whatsoever and be happy with it, because a few weeks ago they all willingly agreed to work for absolutely nothing for a few weeks, because installation was to be free. Get real folks. They'll get their wages in full for this week and in fact may even get a few bonuses because of the larger volume they'll have installed due to demand. That money is coming out of what the customers have paid this week and in their previous payments over the years. The installation is not free.

Sky, as they have to do, are making their profits, and at the expense of anyone who mistakenly thinks they are getting a good deal. Just because you are willing to be ripped off, don't take it out on the few of us that are pointing out the realities, and call our posts rants. The installation is not free or at some wonderful rate. It's a marketing ploy. All companies do it. With some, you are actually getting some sort of value, so it's worth doing, but Sky is a rip-off from start to finish.

I wouldn't give Rupert Murdoch a single cent. The TV is paid for, the license is, and last night I sat down and watched the Man Utd. match and didn't have to pay some additional charge to Rupert Murdoch for the pleasure. Some people are prepared to do that kind of thing every week. I may not see them live, but I can sit down at the weekend and see Premiership match highlights and all the goals without having to pay anything extra. That some people are prepared to pay Rupert Murdoch to do almost the exact same thing, just doesn't make sense. Luckily I have some sense and I'll continue to enjoy TV soccer at no extra charge.

watty

Sky can GIVE AWAY FREE the Sky+ and I won't take one...

But if it was €300 and had NO RECORDING RENTAL, then this would be good value. I might even get one then.

My original Sky box still in use (non sub) after five years,

Five years of a FREE install, free delivery Sky+ is 900 EURO!

I'd expect any non-Sky PVR box to last at least 5 years.

I have some PCs here I use for semi-dedicated application that are ten years old. PCs go out of date faster than anything.

Mossy Monk

Flukey wrote:

Luckily I have some sense and I'll continue to enjoy TV soccer at no extra charge.

thats your choice, good for you. others decide to pay for it. live with it. why not keep your pointless rants to yourself as you are obviously anti pay tv and will not have a good word to say about pay tv

Tony

watty wrote:

Sky can GIVE AWAY FREE the Sky+ and I won't take one...

But if it was €300 and had NO RECORDING RENTAL, then this would be good value. I might even get one then.

My original Sky box still in use (non sub) after five years,

Five years of a FREE install, free delivery Sky+ is 900 EURO!

I'd expect any non-Sky PVR box to last at least 5 years.

I have some PCs here I use for semi-dedicated application that are ten years old. PCs go out of date faster than anything.

Good point Watty the monthly recording "fee" is bad value and they should drop it.

parsi

watty wrote:

Sky can GIVE AWAY FREE the Sky+ and I won't take one...

But if it was €300 and had NO RECORDING RENTAL, then this would be good value. I might even get one then.

My original Sky box still in use (non sub) after five years,

That's good going Watty - my box died last week after 4 years 1 month....I have a vague idea it was a free (or dirt cheap) install.

byte

I totally agree with Watty. I too would rather pay more for a Sky+ box and not pay the mental €15pm rent. I don't want premium channels so that I can get recording features "free"!

Didn't TiVo do this in UK when it was launched? ie. Pay big money for box but free TV listings and HDD use for life, or pay less, and pay an additional monthly rent for Listings and HDD use.

bigpaddy2004

Buckfast wrote:

I don't particularly want to upgrade to Sky+, so just wondering, how much is it to get multiroom installed on a normal €30.50 p.m. subscription?

Do both boxes or just the mirror box have to be connected to a phone line? Basically, can i still use the FTV card on the box that's not plugged into the phone line, or will it be detected by Sky?

In answering your first question, it is still only going to cost you €69.
Second question...yes both box's must be connected to phone line....and no Sky will not detect your Sky card if you put it in the box connected to the phoneline.

norbert64

you're kinda right Flukey.

The installation is not xactly free, the engineers obviously get paid somehow, but not directly by us, so we're happy with that, LOL.

new multiroom sub of €5.99 instead of €15, sounds good. :cool:

legend99

For those of us who live in blurry and snowy terrestrial land we have no choice but to pay a third party provider. And to be honest, I consider that getting the hardware for 69 euro and paying 60 a month to use both boxes with premium Sky channels on both isn't the worst thing in the world. Thats my decision. With all due respects, its fair to say that you pay for every service you receive. Someone collects your bins, you pay them. Someone services your car, you pay them.
Sky are offering a service, obviously they are in it to make money....sure jesus, thats the same as every company in the world.

lpool2k05

Its obvious that that 15euro per month is to entice the customer to subscribe to premium channels but I think sky would get more customers If they dropped the charge altogether because sky + is a great service and more people would subscribe if it was free.

Plus anyone any idea if thee price for multiroom is dropping because I currently pay 94.50 a month to sky.Bit steap I know but it is between 3 people who all pay equal amounts of 31.50 but if it was reduced it would go down to 76 a month.Big drop.

legend99

lpool2k05 wrote:

Its obvious that that 15euro per month is to entice the customer to subscribe to premium channels but I think sky would get more customers If they dropped the charge altogether because sky + is a great service and more people would subscribe if it was free.

Plus anyone any idea if thee price for multiroom is dropping because I currently pay 94.50 a month to sky.Bit steap I know but it is between 3 people who all pay equal amounts of 31.50 but if it was reduced it would go down to 76 a month.Big drop.

i assume 94.50 is full premium channels of 64.50 + 15X2 for 2 mirror subs??

bk

byte wrote:

Didn't TiVo do this in UK when it was launched? ie. Pay big money for box but free TV listings and HDD use for life, or pay less, and pay an additional monthly rent for Listings and HDD use.

Yes and it still does it in the US.

€15 is too expensive for a PVR, Dish Netowrks (basically Sky in the US) charge only $5 for PVR rental and the box and install are free, much better value IMO.

I believe Sky will need to drop the price of the PVR to €5 as NTL will have their own PVR soon, as will the new BBC/UTV Freesat consortium. Also Freeview in the UK has it's own PVR's which you don't have to subscribe to (you just buy the box).

More competition will lead to cheaper prices.

kaizersoze

legend99 wrote:

For those of us who live in blurry and snowy terrestrial land we have no choice but to pay a third party provider. And to be honest, I consider that getting the hardware for 69 euro and paying 60 a month to use both boxes with premium Sky channels on both isn't the worst thing in the world. Thats my decision. With all due respects, its fair to say that you pay for every service you receive. Someone collects your bins, you pay them. Someone services your car, you pay them.
Sky are offering a service, obviously they are in it to make money....sure jesus, thats the same as every company in the world.

To each their own and I wasn't criticising anyone who wishes to pay for it:D
My view in the earlier post was a personal one so I wouldn't pay it. The other services you mention (Bins, etc) are what I would consider essential services. Being able to watch Sky movies in the bedroom is not. Sky digital overall is probably good value but it's the way they squeeze the extra cash out of subscribers that annoys me. Like paying for the privilige of recording something of watching on a second TV.
I agree that every company is in business to make money (including myself) but Sky is a virtual monopoly when it comes to sat tv so you don't have much choice. I have a multiroom setup but I bought the equipment an paid a local independant to install it. Not 1 cent has gone or will ever go to Sky and I have all the channels I need.
I'm not dissing anyone or try to be argumentative, it's just my opinion:) .

legend99

nae worries...tis friday. not a day for arguing!!!

My biggest problem is that I live in an area where the RTE set-up on an aerial isn't good. Therefore, I'm snookered for starters.
Were RTE to ever do the proper thing and even introduce a FTV card you could buy when renewing your TV licence for say an additional 20 euro I'd get rid of Sky no worries. But I can't see RTE ever being this proactive even though its so obvious to do it...

JimmySmith

I kinda got lost among the last 10 posts. Is it really €5.99 for the mirror sub with sky+

If it was i'd go for it.

kaizersoze

JimmySmith wrote:

I kinda got lost among the last 10 posts. Is it really €5.99 for the mirror sub with sky+

If it was i'd go for it.

According to BigPaddy (and he's the man:) ) the price is going to drop to €5.99 soon but Sky haven't announced anything yet.

kaizersoze

legend99 wrote:

nae worries...tis friday. not a day for arguing!!!

My biggest problem is that I live in an area where the RTE set-up on an aerial isn't good. Therefore, I'm snookered for starters.
Were RTE to ever do the proper thing and even introduce a FTV card you could buy when renewing your TV licence for say an additional 20 euro I'd get rid of Sky no worries. But I can't see RTE ever being this proactive even though its so obvious to do it...

Thats a royal PITA. RTE need to sort themselves out. An FTV card would be an ideal solution.

norbert64

seems Flukey may be right after all.

Found a Sky dealer in the golden pages, & called em up.

They said that they are indeed doing the €69 upgrade deal, however there is a catch.

They will be charging an xtra €75 for some new adaptor for the dish, & then another €70 for the phone cable to reach the newly appointed location of the 2nd digibox.

So are these guys cowboys, LOL, or will Sky be charging something similar.

When I called Sky the other day they never said anything about this. I've been trying to get hold of em these past few days to confirm, but y'all know what there phone lines are like.

so any idears ppl

clarkbelt

Flukey ,

I don't know where to start , are you on the blob ? or what . What alot of moaning !

Flukey wrote:

It is cheaper, but it is still too much. Sky have been ripping people off for years. You may celebrate that they are ripping you off by less, but they are still ripping you off. If they were offering it for €0.01, they'd still be ripping you off. Being ripped off, no matter by how much, is nothing to celebrate. It's less that €149, but it is €69 more to add to all the other money they've ripped people off of.

It's like people saying they smoke less. They tell you "I used to smoke 40 a day, but now I only smoke 10." Well that is 10 more each day on top of the total they have smoked, so they are not cutting down, but adding more. So this €69 is less than before but it is another €69 on top of everything else upt to this. When they start returning the millions upon millions that they have ripped people off of, then go out and buy a bottle of champagne!

You get the "If you ring 0818 719 822 then you can get sky+ for €69 with free installation" If you are paying €69 then it is not free. It is like a car salesman telling you that if you give him €40,000 he'll give you a new car for free! Cop on people!

Tony

No idea what adapter they might be referring to, cost of the quad is covered by sky. As for the phoneline I dont know how they can price this without seeing the cable run first. Having said this sky take forever to pay up so maybe they are factoring the cost of this in.

norbert64 wrote:

seems Flukey may be right after all.

Found a Sky dealer in the golden pages, & called em up.

They said that they are indeed doing the €69 upgrade deal, however there is a catch.

They will be charging an xtra €75 for some new adaptor for the dish, & then another €70 for the phone cable to reach the newly appointed location of the 2nd digibox.

So are these guys cowboys, LOL, or will Sky be charging something similar.

When I called Sky the other day they never said anything about this. I've been trying to get hold of em these past few days to confirm, but y'all know what there phone lines are like.

so any idears ppl

carbsy

legend99 wrote:

so if the mirror sub does come down to 5.99 a month you could have
Sky+ with Multiroom

6 entertainment mixes, 30.50 a month
get 2 Sky sports premium channels instead of paying for Sky+ by itself.Add 23.50
Mirror sub 5.99.

So for 60 quid a month you could have Sky+, mirror sub and 4 Premium sports channels. Thats not bad I have to say in my opinion.

No, next question. The 5.99 a month...will that be announced before the 69 upgrade sale price offer ends on Nov 30....and can you get the 69 euro offer price to upgrade to Sky+ Multiroom from local installer...i prefer giving my business to a local guy to be honest.

Where did the 60 yoyos per month come from? I currently pay 54 a month for Sky Sports World.So are you saying I can upgrade to Sky+ with multiroom for only 6 notes? Sounds too good to be true.

Charlie

This is kind of a messy question but i've been lokking to switch from ntl to sky for a while and the €69 sky+ offer is tempting. Here's the messy part, I want to sign up for sky+ multiroom, with sky+ in one room and two standard digboxes in two other rooms. My first question is will I get all this for €69, as you can get sky+ and 1 standard box for €69. Secondly, sky offer free standard installation, would my setup constitute free installation and if not what kind of money would I be looking at paying for such an installation. Any answers or advice would be greatly appreciated.