IBB Network in the worst state yet

nadir

Ive noticed that the IBB network seems to have been having serious trouble this week. Im getting loads of arp requests.

22:01:36.735350 arp who-has DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie (ec:c5:00:50:b4:66) tell 62.231.60.226
22:01:45.882331 arp who-has DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie (00:05:85:da:fc:dc) tell 62.231.60.217
22:01:50.250246 arp who-has 62.231.60.208 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:50.612698 arp who-has 62.231.60.253 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:51.036752 arp who-has 62.231.60.208 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:51.336152 arp who-has 62.231.60.253 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:51.934882 arp who-has 62.231.60.208 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:51.936806 arp who-has 62.231.60.253 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.535833 arp who-has 62.231.60.253 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.635848 arp who-has 62.231.60.208 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.688636 arp who-has 62.231.60.196 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.689182 arp who-has 62.231.60.204 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.689731 arp who-has 62.231.60.209 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.689731 arp who-has 62.231.60.207 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.690891 arp who-has 62.231.60.211 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.691257 arp who-has 62.231.60.233 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.691624 arp who-has 62.231.60.247 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.695725 arp who-has 62.231.60.195 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.696019 arp who-has 62.231.60.194 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.696366 arp who-has 62.231.60.224 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.696873 arp who-has 62.231.60.225 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.697209 arp who-has 62.231.60.246 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:52.699162 arp who-has 62.231.60.231 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.235809 arp who-has 62.231.60.208 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.335320 arp who-has 62.231.60.204 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.335820 arp who-has 62.231.60.209 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.336663 arp who-has 62.231.60.225 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.336968 arp who-has 62.231.60.246 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.435059 arp who-has 62.231.60.253 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.436981 arp who-has 62.231.60.196 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.437317 arp who-has 62.231.60.194 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.438049 arp who-has 62.231.60.224 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.535728 arp who-has 62.231.60.247 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.536293 arp who-has 62.231.60.195 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.634934 arp who-has 62.231.60.211 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.635697 arp who-has 62.231.60.233 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:53.636033 arp who-has 62.231.60.231 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:54.039022 arp who-has 62.231.60.225 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:54.039945 arp who-has 62.231.60.246 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:01:54.134764 arp who-has 62.231.60.204 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:02:11.086018 arp who-has 62.231.60.223 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie
22:02:12.036018 arp who-has 62.231.60.223 tell DN04-fe-1-3-1-160-guinness.irishbroadband.ie

thats just a random minute : surely I shouldnt be getting these.
Also it seems crazy using arptables and/or altering my ip, or setting up a virtual ip interface on my machine, I can recieve other people packets, I tried this last night and I was getting someone elses torrents.
Shouldnt they protect against this.

Mutant_Fruit

Whats an arp packet? And could that be why some people's connections are really slow? Could their connection be saturated by "arp" packets?

Makaveli

If that's the case it might explain why over the last two days my connection is next to unusable.

syklops

I have learnt there's no point in arguing with an idiot- he'll
bring you down to his level, and then beat you with experience.

nadir

ARP is Address Resolution Protocol,

so it's fairly self explanatory, it's for mapping mac addresses against IP's.

it's layer 2 of the OSI model (Data Link Layer)

One would think however that the routing system would have learnt which mac address corresponds to which IP, and would only need to send arp 'who is' requests to new ip's or to someone who had changed their mac address.
Now considering most people dont know what a mac address is and hardly know how to change it coupled with the fact that we have static IP's one is left wondering why IBB feel they need to ask us where the machines on their network are.
I mean how the hell are we supposed to know what mac address everyone else is using, or why should we care.

clearz

nadir wrote:

ARP is Address Resolution Protocol,

so it's fairly self explanatory, it's for mapping mac addresses against IP's.

it's layer 2 of the OSI model (Data Link Layer)

One would think however that the routing system would have learnt which mac address corresponds to which IP, and would only need to send arp 'who is' requests to new ip's or to someone who had changed their mac address.
Now considering most people dont know what a mac address is and hardly know how to change it coupled with the fact that we have static IP's one is left wondering why IBB feel they need to ask us where the machines on their network are.
I mean how the hell are we supposed to know what mac address everyone else is using, or why should we care.

Someone has been reading his networking notes.

[V3]

How do you check the arp packet?

Sponge Bob

its not really a packet

syklops

IBB has two packages.

Breeze = Static IP addressing.
Ripwave = Configuration via DHCP.

DHCP + ARP = Very good friends.

vinks

[V3] wrote:

How do you check the arp packet?

if you use a *nix like OS you just use tcpdump, dunno what you can use under windows to look at arp packets, maybe etherreal or something like that has been ported to windows

syklops

Yes ethereal has been ported. Even has a nice GUI. You can download it from www.ethereal.com.

you could also use windump which is like tcpdump but its for windows.

spooky donkey

In order for IBB to upgrade their net work they have to order parts in from Israil. This is why it takes them weeks and months to upgrade their nets. if you have problems ye will be waiting weeks for a net upgrade. Im 3 weeks in and was asked to wait another week.

arcane99

I have noticed that the routing of the traffic internally on their network has changed in the past 2 days. see attached But the service is still dire @ 41 kbps.

It still seems to be the gw.ibis is causing major hassle.

nadir

You may have just been moved to another cell, or the routing system, just found a better / or worse way to go.

Red Alert

why the hell are they using Israeli kit - i'm sure it's grand stuff, but networking hardware is fairly common. I'm sure they could even get Cisco stuff quicker.

If you want to mess around like above you need to put your NIC into promiscuous mode, and have your computer (or server doing ICS) connected straight to the broadband.

pete

something very odd happened just after midnight there

Downstream 2433 Kbps (304.1 KB/sec) 2627 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 3993 Kbps (499.1 KB/sec) 4312 Kbps (inc. overheads)

thats on a 2mb/2mb breeze connection....

ran it twice & got similar results. just before that, irishisptest was reporting a 3mb upload.....

back to "normal" now... ie very broken.

sisyphus

In order for IBB to upgrade their net work they have to order parts in from Israil. This is why it takes them weeks and months to upgrade their nets. if you have problems ye will be waiting weeks for a net upgrade. Im 3 weeks in and was asked to wait another week.

Ah yes, and here's another spurious fact for everyone to take as gospel:

Last week, 16 Irish fighter planes manned by 4 dogs, two sheep, and 10 horny priests launched an all-out offensive attack on the sovereign nation of Durka-Durka-Stan. In all, 26,000 Islamic fundamentalists are reported as being killed, with a further 10,000 Carlow holiday'ers (Is that a word?!!) thought to have been seriously injured in the attack. Reuters is reporting that Irish Broadband were the sole master-minds behind this savage onslaught. The revered journalist Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad is quoted as saying, "Those Irish Broadband infidels. They come to my home and kill my family. They even kill my Dog and his family! They even make me watch all 11 seasons of Married With Children!! Those bastards!!"
Jihad, one of the many affected citizens of the IBB onslaught, is currently seeking legal advice in an effort to strike at the IBB conglomerate. He and his faithful brothers from the "ComReg Association For Disgruntled Customer" seem to be fighting an uphill battle however, as IBB have reportedly signed the infamous defense attorney Johnnie Cochran as their chief legal advisor in this case. Cochran, who will be payed directly from the coffers of ongoing IBB sufferers, is quoted as saying: "This is a black vs. white issue. My client is being discriminated against solely because of their God-given right to make money off the bcks of the meek, and this simply will not stand!"
The case is currently on trial in the Durka-Durkastani capital, Mohammedesh, and is expected to last another 6 months before a verdict will be reached....................[.............]..............

In other news today [............]..............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



See what I'm driving at??!!

aaronc

nadir wrote:

ARP is Address Resolution Protocol,

so it's fairly self explanatory, it's for mapping mac addresses against IP's.

it's layer 2 of the OSI model (Data Link Layer)

ARP is Layer 3. Ethernet etc. are Layer 2 protocols.

Aaron

spooky donkey

pete wrote:

something very odd happened just after midnight there



thats on a 2mb/2mb breeze connection....

ran it twice & got similar results. just before that, irishisptest was reporting a 3mb upload.....

back to "normal" now... ie very broken.

You wernt running torrents with 2 machines on a network were you. With one machine seeding a file and another leeching it? Ive seen those speeds only in those conditions. Its a good way to get yer raitos up real high!

Zab

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.250:
Packets: Sent = 65, Received = 58, Lost = 7 (10% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 3185ms, Average = 667ms

Been like this for ages for me.

I can't wait to get rid of them.

pete

spooky donkey wrote:

You wernt running torrents with 2 machines on a network were you. With one machine seeding a file and another leeching it? Ive seen those speeds only in those conditions. Its a good way to get yer raitos up real high!

no, that was on http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp

and irishisptest.com too

pete

incidentally

Downstream 93 Kbps (11.6 KB/sec) 100 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 111 Kbps (13.9 KB/sec) 119 Kbps (inc. overheads)

that's now, albeit tested over a gotomypc remote control connection

Zab

93 Kbps! How I wish!

Downstream 42 Kbps (5.3 KB/sec) 45 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 9 Kbps (1.1 KB/sec) 9 Kbps (inc. overheads)

Ruffty^

sisyphus wrote:

See what I'm driving at??!!

....Just say; "I don`t think thats right", good lad.

Talisman

I've been experiencing 43~55% packet loss since Monday night/Tuesday morning. Also getting 2kb/s transfer rates - it hasn't been like this since the big outage earlier in the year. Despite evidence to the contrary the Customer Service people I have spoken have insisted that the problem is on my side - Bullsh!t excuse most often repeated: "It's obviously your network cable, that's why you're experiencing packet loss." Only 4 weeks to go on the contract and then IBB is gone for good.

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.183.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     5 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    12 ms    14 ms    11 ms  DN16-fe-0-0-1-150-ballymun.irishbroadband.ie [62
.231.57.65]
  3    15 ms    15 ms    20 ms  DN40-fe-0-0-0-344-ballycoolin.irishbroadband.ie
[62.231.52.173]
  4    18 ms    14 ms    16 ms  DN04-fe-1-3-0-352-guinness.irishbroadband.ie [83
.141.117.185]
  5    21 ms    20 ms    18 ms  DN42-as0-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231
.52.153]
  6    19 ms     *       20 ms  DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.11
7.45]
  7    34 ms     *     1995 ms  824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

  8     *     2816 ms     *     213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10    78 ms    45 ms   131 ms  216.239.43.91
 11    46 ms     *       47 ms  216.239.43.92
 12     *       57 ms     *     216.239.43.30
 13    60 ms     *     1071 ms  216.239.43.34
 14  2173 ms     *       77 ms  64.233.183.104

Trace complete.

Ping statistics for 62.231.57.65:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 114ms, Average = 15ms

Ping statistics for 62.231.52.173:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 368ms, Average = 39ms

Ping statistics for 83.141.117.185:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 70ms, Average = 16ms

Ping statistics for 62.231.52.153:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 234ms, Average = 19ms

Ping statistics for 83.141.117.45:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 50, Lost = 50 (50% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 28ms

spooky donkey

Mine is like that for 3 weeks on monday. My contract is almost up also.

Talisman

spooky donkey wrote:

Mine is like that for 3 weeks on monday. My contract is almost up also.

What excuses if any have you been given?

arcane99

Talisman wrote:

What excuses if any have you been given?

Havent heard of anyone who has recieved any contact from IBB except for the usual contention excuse.

arcane99

A thing I have noticed over the past day is that the download speed of torrents have increased.

I have been using http://www.irishisptest.com/ and http://www.testmy.net/ to get my download and connection speed. Never comes in over 100 kbps connection over the 2 weeks and 45 kbps is the norm.

I loaded up my copy of PRTG traffic grapher and started to download using Bitlord torrents and downloading off a reliable ftp server. is downloading at 30kb/s and ftp is downloading at 8Kb/s.
Just looking at the morning graphs and connections were between 200 - 500 kbps.

Now if I go to download a web page, the spped is crap ( took 3 mins to open hotmail) or if I download a file over 1mb over http or ftp, the file will always fail (packetloss?) if using explorer.

IrishISP Test is showing a connection of 40kbps and download of 3 KB/s.

Strange.

Talisman

Try doing a tracert to www.google.com, my guess is everything will go fine until it reaches DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.117.45], and after that you'll experience major packet loss.

uteotw

Yep 40% packet loss since tuesday on 3 Rock.
Second time this month.

Airblazer

does anyone know what exactly IBB are doing to their ripwave network next weekend????
apparently they're upgrading the network but in what way i don't know.

"Important Notice from Irish Broadband - Planned network maintenance on Ripwave has been scheduled between Monday 24th - Friday 28th Oct 2005.
Irish broadband is upgrading its Ripwave network next week. On Monday 24th Oct between the hours of 9am – 1pm we will be upgrading all of our Ripwave base-stations, this will mean a small outage of approximately 15 mins per base station.From Monday evening through to Friday evening 28th Oct we would ask that you please leave your Ripwave modems ‘Turned On’ as this will also allow us to upgrade your modem with the latest version of software"

arcane99

Friday 23.30

:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Connection is:: 11 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)
Download Speed is:: 1 kB/s
Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Fri Oct 21 23:32:51 UTC+0100 2005
Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB download in 1024 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 4.04 % of your hosts average (118.145)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-OEHR73U0C



Just after looking through my auto responses from IBB support@irishbroadband.ie and over the past 6 days they have recieved 613 support emails sent to them.

Has anyone on these boards ever recieved a response due to a query by email. Maybe this one should be set as a poll.

sisyphus

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.183.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 5 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms DN16-fe-0-0-1-150-ballymun.irishbroadband.ie [62
.231.57.65]
3 15 ms 15 ms 20 ms DN40-fe-0-0-0-344-ballycoolin.irishbroadband.ie
[62.231.52.173]
4 18 ms 14 ms 16 ms DN04-fe-1-3-0-352-guinness.irishbroadband.ie [83
.141.117.185]
5 21 ms 20 ms 18 ms DN42-as0-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231
.52.153]
6 19 ms * 20 ms DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.11
7.45]
7 34 ms * 1995 ms 824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

8 * 2816 ms * 213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 78 ms 45 ms 131 ms 216.239.43.91
11 46 ms * 47 ms 216.239.43.92
12 * 57 ms * 216.239.43.30
13 60 ms * 1071 ms 216.239.43.34
14 2173 ms * 77 ms 64.233.183.104

Trace complete.

Ping statistics for 62.231.57.65:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 114ms, Average = 15ms

Ping statistics for 62.231.52.173:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 368ms, Average = 39ms

Ping statistics for 83.141.117.185:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 70ms, Average = 16ms

Ping statistics for 62.231.52.153:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 12ms, Maximum = 234ms, Average = 19ms

Ping statistics for 83.141.117.45:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 50, Lost = 50 (50% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 28ms

@Talisman: In fairness, have you actually looked at these results?!
The 7th hop seems to be where the problem to that host appears. This does seem to be outside the IBB network according to your trace route. How do you hold IBB accountable for something outside their network?

  6    19 ms     *       20 ms  DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.11
7.45]
  7    34 ms     *     1995 ms  824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

Mutant_Fruit

You see the thing with traceroutes is that they can be slightly misleading when viewed with just three pings to each server.

6    19 ms     *       20 ms  DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.11
7.45]
  7    34 ms     *     1995 ms  824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

This doesn't actually prove the problem is in the uk server, it could still quite easily be in the IBB end. I have graphical traceroutes which have packetloss showing from the fourth hop til the seventh hop. However, i could (nearly) guarantee that if the packetloss was removed from the fourth hop, the "packetloss" would vanish from the 5, 6 and 7th hops.

The only way for a trace packet to reach hop 7 as in the above quote is if it goes through hop 6... and it could easily have picked up the packetloss and high ping from an erratic router at hop 6.

From past experience (and from pings earlier today) the problem is still within IBB's network, just at the router(s) where IBB connects to the main interweb (if ya know what i mean). Packetloss was a mere 3-4% for me today. Not half bad by IBB standards, but still too erratic for playing CS. I had to give up after 20 mins

EDIT:

How do you hold IBB accountable for something outside their network?

Quite easily. If IBB's supplier isn't reliable, IBB should change. Plain and simple.

Makaveli

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.183.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  DN02-fe-1-3-1-150-3rock.irishbroadband.ie [62.23
1.33.17]
  2     4 ms     2 ms     2 ms  DN03-as1-0-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52
.186]
  3     3 ms     2 ms     3 ms  DN42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231
.52.134]
  4    93 ms     *        *     DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.11
7.45]
  5    25 ms    22 ms    49 ms  824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

  6    72 ms    52 ms    44 ms  213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]
  7    32 ms     *       29 ms  72.14.238.246
  8    33 ms    32 ms     *     216.239.43.91
  9    37 ms    42 ms     *     216.239.43.88
 10     *        *       33 ms  216.239.43.26
 11    32 ms     *        *     64.233.183.104
 12     *       33 ms     *     64.233.183.104
 13     *        *      522 ms  64.233.183.104

Trace complete.

Yesterday pinging DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.117.45], I experienced 100% packet loss. It is clearly the problem from all tracerts I've run over the past 4 days.

Ping statistics for 83.141.117.45:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 56, Lost = 44 (44% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 269ms, Average = 22ms

I'm also experiencing 50% - 60% packet loss pinging my DNS server.

pete

speed test done right now:

Downstream 2316 Kbps (289.5 KB/sec) 2501 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 3889 Kbps (486.1 KB/sec) 4200 Kbps (inc. overheads)

that'll do nicely.... but will it last?

Mutant_Fruit

A speedtest puts me on about 35kB/sec, but bittorrent is averaging at over 90kB/sec. I believe bittorrent. Still, its a far cry from the 220kB/sec i should be getting. I definately think i'll be changing ISP shortly. I'm just waiting til Digiweb get all the problems with their metro package sorted. If people are still happy with it in a month or so, then i'll be switching right over.

aubhall

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

A speedtest puts me on about 35kB/sec, but bittorrent is averaging at over 90kB/sec. I believe bittorrent. Still, its a far cry from the 220kB/sec i should be getting. I definately think i'll be changing ISP shortly. I'm just waiting til Digiweb get all the problems with their metro package sorted. If people are still happy with it in a month or so, then i'll be switching right over.

Lucky for some, no speedtest will even frun for me, max total speed i am getting is 10k each way.

secret_squirrel

What amazings me is that IBB have being having problems for months and the cheeky cnuts are still advertising like mad signing up new mugs/punters.

pete

pete wrote:

that'll do nicely.... but will it last?

well it lasted all day.... but now:

Downstream 170 Kbps (21.3 KB/sec) 183 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 265 Kbps (33.1 KB/sec) 286 Kbps (inc. overheads)

dan99989

I know Bray IBB is particularly bad, but he's my latest grab:

C:\>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.183.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 141 ms 147 ms 112 ms WW01-fe-0-0-1-150-bray.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.50.193]
2 97 ms 17 ms 28 ms DN03-fe-1-3-0-356-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.117.233]
3 41 ms 30 ms 32 ms DN42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.134]
4 102 ms * 141 ms DN42-ae0-50-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.157]
5 157 ms 120 ms 179 ms 824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

6 80 ms 48 ms 32 ms 213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]

7 143 ms * 77 ms 72.14.238.242

8 141 ms 153 ms 139 ms 216.239.43.91

9 131 ms 141 ms 121 ms 216.239.43.92

10 84 ms 101 ms 95 ms 216.239.43.30

11 175 ms 185 ms 106 ms 64.233.183.99

Trace complete.

I'm getting downloads of 3-6 kbps - "great" service as usual.

vinks

dan99989 wrote:

I know Bray IBB is particularly bad, but he's my latest grab:

C:\>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.183.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 141 ms 147 ms 112 ms WW01-fe-0-0-1-150-bray.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.50.193]
2 97 ms 17 ms 28 ms DN03-fe-1-3-0-356-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.117.233]
3 41 ms 30 ms 32 ms DN42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.134]
4 102 ms * 141 ms DN42-ae0-50-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.157]
5 157 ms 120 ms 179 ms 824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

6 80 ms 48 ms 32 ms 213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]

7 143 ms * 77 ms 72.14.238.242

8 141 ms 153 ms 139 ms 216.239.43.91

9 131 ms 141 ms 121 ms 216.239.43.92

10 84 ms 101 ms 95 ms 216.239.43.30

11 175 ms 185 ms 106 ms 64.233.183.99

Trace complete.

I'm getting downloads of 3-6 kbps - "great" service as usual.

its wonderfully consistant with the speeds im getting in the d16 area. at least ibb are consistant dont you think :P

dan99989

I suppose thats one positive! The latest from Bray is as follows:

C:\>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.183.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms WW01-fe-0-0-1-150-bray.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.50.193]
2 12 ms 11 ms 9 ms DN03-fe-1-3-0-356-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.117.233]
3 13 ms 10 ms 44 ms DN42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.134]
4 11 ms 38 ms * DN42-ae0-50-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.157]
5 28 ms 26 ms 24 ms 824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

6 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms 213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]
7 23 ms 27 ms 25 ms 72.14.238.246
8 38 ms 42 ms 51 ms 216.239.43.91
9 39 ms * 37 ms 216.239.43.96
10 40 ms 41 ms 46 ms 216.239.43.26
11 46 ms 37 ms 39 ms 64.233.183.99

Trace complete.


Fair enough it is almost 3am - but still...what kind of service is it if the only time you get a reliable connection is at this time?

aubhall

Atrium @ 3:48am

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [216.239.59.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 180 ms 83 ms 60 ms 83.141.64.65
3 * 133 ms 143 ms DN40-fe-0-0-0-331-ballycoolin.irishbroadband.ie
[62.231.52.149]
4 99 ms 120 ms 104 ms DN04-fe-1-3-0-352-guinness.irishbroadband.ie [83
.141.117.185]
5 * 79 ms 83 ms DN42-as0-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231
.52.153]
6 96 ms 73 ms 48 ms DN42-ae0-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.11
7.45]
7 32 ms 52 ms 29 ms 213-161-79-157.available.lhr.above.net [213.161.
79.157]
8 88 ms 61 ms 132 ms 213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]
9 171 ms 151 ms 119 ms 72.14.238.246
10 126 ms 173 ms 192 ms 216.239.49.254
11 * * 117 ms 216.239.48.158
12 118 ms 157 ms 122 ms 216.239.49.117
13 121 ms 170 ms 187 ms 216.239.59.99

Trace complete.

spooky donkey

dan99989 wrote:

I know Bray IBB is particularly bad, but he's my latest grab:

I was on IBB bray last weekend and it was way better than their D15 operation. On a 2 meg connection I was getting speeds like a 1 meg connection. In D15 im getting 15k . I was getting 120k in Bray last weekend. Still not as good as it shoule be.

jonny68

dan99989 wrote:

I know Bray IBB is particularly bad, but he's my latest grab:

C:\>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [64.233.183.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 141 ms 147 ms 112 ms WW01-fe-0-0-1-150-bray.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.50.193]
2 97 ms 17 ms 28 ms DN03-fe-1-3-0-356-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.117.233]
3 41 ms 30 ms 32 ms DN42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.134]
4 102 ms * 141 ms DN42-ae0-50-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52.157]
5 157 ms 120 ms 179 ms 824.ge5-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.79.97]

6 80 ms 48 ms 32 ms 213-152-230-99.google.net [213.152.230.99]

7 143 ms * 77 ms 72.14.238.242

8 141 ms 153 ms 139 ms 216.239.43.91

9 131 ms 141 ms 121 ms 216.239.43.92

10 84 ms 101 ms 95 ms 216.239.43.30

11 175 ms 185 ms 106 ms 64.233.183.99

Trace complete.

I'm getting downloads of 3-6 kbps - "great" service as usual.

Thank fu*k im no longer with them anymore that's the speeds i was getting as well utterly pathetic

Weird. I seem to be the only one getting decent speeds. Getting near the full 2 meg up and down on the three rock. Quick ping:


Ping statistics for 82.195.136.250:
Packets: Sent = 39, Received = 39, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 92ms, Average = 24ms

spooky donkey

Deleted User wrote:

Weird. I seem to be the only one getting decent speeds. Getting near the full 2 meg up and down on the three rock. Quick ping:


Ping statistics for 82.195.136.250:
Packets: Sent = 39, Received = 39, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 92ms, Average = 24ms

Its not that weird. Ive been following this IBB story for a year now and its rare you hear some one on 3rock complaining. Not sure why.

Red Alert

3rock's never great - it just doesn't seem to be a classic IBB job (or should i say badly done job).

spooky donkey

Just as I say there never seems to be problems with 3rock I see a thread on how bad 3rock is. So I guess there is no safe haven from IBB wrath.
That said I know 2 guys on the new D15 mast that is over at the Clonsilla train station and neither of them have any bad reports they both think its great. But then they are both on their IBB honeymoon period as the mast is only new. Shouldent take IBB too long to over subscribe that one either.